Raw 01/12/2014 *Spoilers*

rovert

Boring and dull Raw. Avoid.

Moneymaker

Man am I glad I took the option of sleeping instead.

WWE always sinks to its lowest levels this time of year.

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So we now have

The Big Guy
The Big Red Machine
The Big Show
And now Big Red?

Very creative lads, Raw was muck this week!!

rovert

Moneymaker wrote: »

Man am I glad I took the option of sleeping instead.

WWE always sinks to its lowest levels this time of year.

If you haven't watched the Austin Podcast yet check out how he asks Vince about what Vince thought of tonight's Raw. Steve couldn't hide his disdain/boredom for the episode in asking. Austin is easily excitable for a great matches and shows. He has no veteran Wrestler "don't put anything over" pretensions.

Moneymaker

rovert wrote: »

If you haven't watched the Austin Podcast yet check out how he asks Vince about what Vince thought of tonight's Raw. Steve couldn't hide his disdain/boredom for the episode in asking. Austin is easily excitable for a great matches and shows. He has no veteran Wrestler "don't put anything over" pretensions.

I read the summary, he didn't sound impressed.

Hopefully he had a long word with Vince after and Austin is the one guy who Vince might listen to.

CSF

Terrible Raw, but Dean Ambrose is still immense despite being limited to post-R Truth match appearances and the likes for the last 2 months.

Characterwise Rowen is now the new face Mankind and I love it

CSF

FWIW, the Miz has been just as entertaining as Mizdow of late.

JP Liz V1

So Cena (No. 1 contender for world title) faces Rollins (MITB winner) at TLC for the No. 1 contender spot is this correct?


Hopefully Lesnar and/or Orton return to interfere

Stereomaniac

The way I took it up was that if John Cena loses another number 1 contender will be named, not necessarily Seth Rollins. However, I could have misinterpreted it as I was exhausted and uninterested.

JP Liz V1

Stereomaniac wrote: »

The way I took it up was that if John Cena loses another number 1 contender will be named, not necessarily Seth Rollins. However, I could have misinterpreted it as I was exhausted and uninterested.

How is Cena No . 1 contender again or is it his rematch?

Ageyev

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

How is Cena No . 1 contender again or is it his rematch?

Cena beat Orton in Hell in a Cell for the no. 1 contender match. His title rematch was Night of Champions.

Omackeral

Ageyev wrote: »

Cena beat Orton in Hell in a Cell for the no. 1 contender match. His title rematch was Night of Champions.

....which is a match he was put in after losing to Dean Ambrose. Literally makes no sense. The losing guy was the one who received a shot at becoming No. 1 contender.

Ageyev

Omackeral wrote: »

....which is a match he was put in after losing to Dean Ambrose. Literally makes no sense. The losing guy was the one who received a shot at becoming No. 1 contender.

Totally but Cena is grabbing at the brass ring goddammit!

Omackeral

Ageyev wrote: »

Totally but Cena is grabbing at the brass ring goddammit!

That young upstart!

rovert

Moneymaker wrote: »

I read the summary, he didn't sound impressed.

Hopefully he had a long word with Vince after and Austin is the one guy who Vince might listen to.

briany

Moneymaker wrote: »

I read the summary, he didn't sound impressed.

Hopefully he had a long word with Vince after and Austin is the one guy who Vince might listen to.

Triple H doesn't need to be made angrier right now by suggesting Vince would take SC's words over his. His temple vein has probably already bulged to the size of Punk's back growth.

JP Liz V1

So Ziggler's "push" is halted again, what did he say this time


I'd prefer Ziggler vs. Rollins in a ladder match at TLC for his MITB contract

CSF

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

So Ziggler's "push" is halted again, what did he say this time


I'd prefer Ziggler vs. Rollins in a ladder match at TLC for his MITB contract

Didn't Ziggler get the win?

Bounty Hunter

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Here's the thing wouldn't Seth want Cena to be the number 1 contender.

Have Cena wrestle Brock for ever how long then cash in the money in the bank on the winner and the one who is tired.

Why would Seth want to be the number one contender and face a fresh champion.

won't ever get to that but... Bayte lumps out of Brock with say a chair or some other weapon like a steel pipe, get DQd as a result but who gives a fup your Mr MITB, cash in and win the title!

JP Liz V1

CSF wrote: »

Didn't Ziggler get the win?

But has Ziggler not got Harper now at TLC for IC title

rovert

The Bellas explain their reunion on the App:

CSF

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

But has Ziggler not got Harper now at TLC for IC title

He has. But this is one of those times where I say 'wait and see' in a non-ironic manner. Harper is never gonna go to the upper card IMO so for Ziggler to have the match won only for an interference from Ziggler's next feud would be perfectly acceptable to me. Ziggler wouldn't work as a guy who wins convincingly all the time. He should be booked the way Daniel Bryan should have been booked, and eventually kind of was.

Big Show would have been ideal, but it could have been worse and he could be going against Rollins to help lead to what should have been a delayed Rollins v Cena match at Mania.

I can't believe it is happening at TLC to be honest, suggests to me that the plans have changed completely from what seemed inevitably a Cena v Rollins Mania match.

Cheese Wagstaff

Rollins beats Cena, suddenly there is now no number one contender. Way is clear for Reigns to win RR, and beat Lesnar in March.

Rollins cashes in, wins the title to close out Wrestlemania.

QED.

Stereomaniac

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

How is Cena No . 1 contender again or is it his rematch?

John Cena is always the number 1 contender. John Cena always gets his rematch. John Cena is always the number 1 contender, even if someone else is the number 1 contender. John Cena is always the champion even if he has no belt.

JP Liz V1

When is Lesnar and the belt returning, for the Rumble ppv?

Loughc

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

When is Lesnar and the belt returning, for the Rumble ppv?

All signs are pointing towards that yeah.

Stereomaniac

It would have been way better to have him and John Cena in a ladder match at this pay per view.

CSF

Cheese Wagstaff wrote: »

Rollins beats Cena, suddenly there is now no number one contender. Way is clear for Reigns to win RR, and beat Lesnar in March.

Rollins cashes in, wins the title to close out Wrestlemania.

QED.

Cena losing to Lesnar at Rumble doesn't have any real impact on Reigns chances of winning the Rumble and facing Lesnar at Mania.

Wasting Cena v Rollins at TLC just seems unnecessary to me

Moneymaker

TLC is a total throwaway show this year.

Doing gimmick PPVs is retarded anyway. It should be the opposite way around.

Do a gimmick match when a storyline calls for it, or its logical. Not shoehorn feuds and storylines into a stipulation.

Ambrose/Wyatt is a perfect example. Why a TLC match? What will be hung over the ring?

The only gimmick PPV worth keeping is MITB. King of the Ring should be brought back with the winner getting a title shot at Summerslam.

You really wonder about the people running WWE when plebs like me can point stuff like this out.

D-FENS

MrMac84 wrote: »

So we now have

The Big Guy
The Big Red Machine
The Big Show
And now Big Red?

Very creative lads, Raw was muck this week!!

Don't forget Big E and possibly coming soon, Big Cass