Charlie (RTE1 Charlie Haughey Drama)

K-9

Skid X wrote: »

Did that brawl really happen?

Nope, but there was loads of pushing and shoving and a few punches thrown all right. Absolute mad times.

Last night was ok, expected better, it needs more Mara, Lawlor is stealing the show whenever he's in it.

Edit: Just read the posts, never knew Gibbons was actually attacked.

It was a scarey time, politicians looking out for P&T vans outside houses, you name it!

K-9

seligehgit wrote: »

Who was the politician CH and Meara discovered in the toilet??He was semi promised a junior ministry..

I can't place him either, maybe the archetypal backbencher? We might find out later on, he seems to have a Louth accent but I can't place him at all.

dcrosskid

K-9 wrote: »

I can't place him either, maybe the archetypal backbencher? We might find out later on, he seems to have a Louth accent but I can't place him at all.

He's a fictional character, I think it was said earlier he was portrayed as a typical FF backbencher at the time and doesn't refer to any one in particular.

Snickers Man

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Even us Dublin gurriers recognised a Tony Gregory stroke when we saw Jackie Healy Rae coming along. "Blackmailing a desperate government to look after your own" is neither socialist nor capitalist. It's opportunist.

Hear bloody hear!!

Riskymove

K-9 wrote: »

I can't place him either, maybe the archetypal backbencher? We might find out later on, he seems to have a Louth accent but I can't place him at all.

on the official site he is listed as being a fictional character

I think he just represents backbenchers generally rather than having a load of actors.

walshb

What is TVLs portrayal of PJ like?

K-9

Deleted User wrote: »

Ray McSharry as said last week

Nope, he was the Finance Minister in the cabinet scenes. One of the few with the balls to stand up to Charlie.

K-9

BrianBoru00 wrote: »

I presume its Neil Blaney who was independant..sort of.
Bit like Jackie Healy Rae - Independant Fianna Fail

Blaney was no Healy Rae! There's no way in this word Neill would have been a bumbling eejit in a toilet! He was Taoiseach material in his day before the Arms Trial.

realdanbreen

katydid wrote: »

Well, he went in on his own terms, I suppose.

Thats for sure. O'Malley and the PD'S had no interest in anyone earning less than 70k per anum. They can portray Haughey any way they wish but he did more for the working class than ever the PD's or FG did.

Falcon L

The line where Tony Gregory said that if Charlie applied all his talents to the proper running of the country, the people would love him couldn't be more true. I wonder if Gregory ever actually said it to him?

Charlie had the talent and balls, but his moral compass was nearly 180 degrees out.

hotmail.com

Haughey and FF opposed the divorce referendum in the mid 80s while Haughey was involved in an extra marital affair. If the media knew about the affair, they should have exposed it.

The_Captain

Boggers hating on Tony G because he improved the standard of Dublin and brought up the entire economy instead of just building pointless bridges in Ballyduff

FloatingVoter

hotmail.com wrote: »

Haughey and FF opposed the divorce referendum in the mid 80s while Haughey was involved in an extra marital affair. If the media knew about the affair, they should have exposed it.

Having affairs was never a crime and besides Terry Keane was exposing it weekly in her gossip column. The media proper should have been asking questions about the multi-millionaire lifestyle, the private island, the yacht, the helicopter. All on a PMs salary.
The tribunals don't start until the 1990s. Then every clown with a press badge is falling over themselves to expose Haughey. Ten years earlier they were nowhere to be found.

coolhull

hotmail.com wrote: »

Haughey and FF opposed the divorce referendum in the mid 80s while Haughey was involved in an extra marital affair. If the media knew about the affair, they should have exposed it.

Its not unusual for people who are having an aaffair to oppose divorce legislation.
Remember Father Michael Cleary?

who the fug

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Having affairs was never a crime and besides Terry Keane was exposing it weekly in her gossip column. The media proper should have been asking questions about the multi-millionaire lifestyle, the private island, the yacht, the helicopter. All on a PMs salary.
The tribunals don't start until the 1990s. Then every clown with a press badge is falling over themselves to expose Haughey. Ten years earlier they were nowhere to be found.

Magill had a good go, along with Madame and Bruce Arnold

boosabum

realdanbreen wrote: »

Thats for sure. O'Malley and the PD'S had no interest in anyone earning less than 70k per anum. They can portray Haughey any way they wish but he did more for the working class than ever the PD's or FG did.

Possibly, but for a man so interested in the North and a resoltuion, his ideal to send a delegation to American to openly lobby against the Ango-irish agreement at the time was pretty appalling.

Snickers Man

realdanbreen wrote: »

They can portray Haughey any way they wish but he did more for an infinitesimally small section of the working class in his own constituency than ever the PD's or FG did.

Bolds are my inserts.

K-9

realdanbreen wrote: »

Thats for sure. O'Malley and the PD'S had no interest in anyone earning less than 70k per anum. They can portray Haughey any way they wish but he did more for the working class than ever the PD's or FG did.

I think you need to take a look at the tax rates that PAYE workers paid in the mid 80's and maybe revise that statement about the PD's!

And really, what did Haughey actually do for the working classes?

Snickers Man

The_Captain wrote: »

Boggers hating on Tony G because he improved the standard of Dublin and brought up the entire economy instead of just building pointless bridges in Ballyduff

Ah gerrup the yard!!!

FloatingVoter self identifies as a "Dublin gurrier"

And I'm a born and bred D4.

How DARE you call us boggers!! :mad::mad:

Ipso

K-9 wrote: »

I think you need to take a look at the tax rates that PAYE workers paid in the mid 80's and maybe revise that statement about the PD's!

And really, what did Haughey actually do for the working classes?

He gave them the shirt of his back, not the fancy ones though.

theenergy

what was it that charlie was eating last night under the tea cloth?!

coolhull

K-9 wrote: »

And really, what did Haughey actually do for the working classes?

Eh? You got a free toothbrush in 1979, didn't you? And you're still not happy? !!!

The_Captain

theenergy wrote: »

what was it that charlie was eating last night under the tea cloth?!

urge to post 'Yore Ma' rising

grey_so_what

coolhull wrote: »

Eh? You got a free toothbrush in 1979, didn't you? And you're still not happy? !!!

Poor Lapin will never get over he didn't get the freebie....:D:pac:

Dancor

theenergy wrote: »

what was it that charlie was eating last night under the tea cloth?!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ortolan_bunting#Gastronomy

Snickers Man

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Seán Doherty's daughter on RTE one talking to Seán O'Rourke now.... not best pleased by her father's portrayal on Charlie by all accounts.

If anything, the portrayal is being kind to him.

W1ll1s

Think the show captures the "running" of the country and the people there pretty well...
Know for a fact one guy Charlie got his job back for, after he was let go for health reasons (they found him a different position).
Charlie did not know this guy from Adam and there sure was nobody else going to help him!

Skid X

Cedrus wrote: »

Can't hack any more ignorant comment from (jackeen) gosoons who weren't out of nappies when this was contemporary.

Your stellar contributions to this thread will be missed :rolleyes:

LionelNashe

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Elmo is playing Tony Gregory!

And the lad that plays Bertie was in Love/Hate too as a customs guy.

Its only now that I'm watching it a second time that I recognise Elmo. I think that's a sign of a good actor.

leck

FloatingVoter wrote: »

...I hope they don't reconstruct the Nighthawks interview next week - just replay the original in full. Watching a drunken Doherty begin the end of Charlie will be fun for a whole new generation.

....just a little snippet of it here...

Thanks for that. Is the full interview available somewhere? What date in 1992 did the interview air?