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What is your view on Knock Airport charging everyone a tenner to leave it?

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    #152
    Andy From Sligo
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    Mars Bar wrote: »
    If it was to be paid through the airline and not through the airport, how can we be sure that the airport is getting 100% of the fee?

    not our (as passengers) problem - let the airport make sure they are getting 100% what they are owed. We as passengers only have to make sure its a place to go on a plane and pick up people from ....


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    #153
    Graham
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    Tarzana2 wrote: »
    It's not extra though. It's separate but not extra. A crucial distinction.

    It's an additional compulsory charge of a tenner, that sounds a lot like extra.


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    #154
    mass_debater
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    Andy From Sligo wrote: »
    not our (as passengers) problem - let the airport make sure they are getting 100% what they are owed. We as passengers only have to make sure its a place to go on a plane and pick up people from ....

    You know the fee exists, if you have a problem with it go elsewhere.


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    #155
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    mass_debater wrote: »
    Yes, the issue is with Ryanair, they fail to notify of the fee, all others do. I think we're on lap 5 at this stage.

    I know, right? Why does this need to be repeated for some posters?


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    #156
    Graham
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    mass_debater wrote: »
    You know the fee exists, if you have a problem with it go elsewhere.

    Most of the passengers appear not to know, they are not given the opportunity to decide if flying via Knock is worth the extra €10.


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    #157
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    Andy From Sligo wrote: »
    though more than likely end up getting less money than the way they are robbing (sorry collecting) now! :)

    Why are you calling it robbing now when earlier in the thread you asserted:

    Andy From Sligo wrote: »
    by the way - i personally dont mind paying the tenner I just wondered what others thought about the charge, or rather them charging for it there smile.png

    Your true feelings were of course betrayed in the first post with snide reference to a "cowshed". ;)


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    #158
    Andy From Sligo
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    i reckon all these ones on here saying "its only a tenner - Pay Up!" must be rich, must have money to burn so they must! ;) - ten euro to them must be like 10cents :)


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    #159
    rainbowtrout
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    Graham wrote: »
    Most of the passengers appear not to know, they are not given the opportunity to decide if flying via Knock is worth the extra €10.

    How do you know that?


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    #160
    Andy From Sligo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,794 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    Tarzana2 wrote: »
    ..... Your true feelings were of course betrayed in the first post with snide reference to a "cowshed". ;)

    I have always called it a cowshed, always have, always will .. see it as my own affectionate name for it if you want :)

    Anyway the size of it compared to some other International airports says it all!


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    #161
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    Graham wrote: »
    It's an additional compulsory charge of a tenner, that sounds a lot like extra.

    Your whole thing on this thread has been "Why is this cost not bundled like it is everywhere else?". So no, not extra, as you have even acknowledged yourself numerous times on this thread.

    Bundled/unbundled = a cost you'd have either way. Not extra. Can't really make it any clearer.


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    #162
    Kevin McCloud
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    Andy From Sligo wrote: »
    I have always called it a cowshed, always have, always will .. call it an affectionate name for it if you want :)

    Is there a pub in it?


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    #163
    mass_debater
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    Graham wrote: »
    Most of the passengers appear not to know, they are not given the opportunity to decide if flying via Knock is worth the extra €10.

    Most? It's common knowledge at this stage. You can't back up that claim


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    #164
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    jt69er wrote: »
    Fly from somewhere else if you don't like it
    Fair enough if they make it public rather than a surprise on the spur of the moment ;) what if someone didn't have the tenner would they impound them for the night?


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    #165
    Andy From Sligo
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    Kevin McCloud wrote: »
    Is there a pub in it?

    yeah 2 I think - the airport itself most probably doubles up as a farm also ... with animals on it like cows and sheep ....


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    #166
    Mars Bar
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    Andy From Sligo wrote: »
    i reckon all these ones on here saying "its only a tenner - Pay Up!" must be rich, must have money to burn so they must! ;) - ten euro to them must be like 10cents :)

    No, we're not. We'd be paying the tenner going elsewhere any way whether that be on extra fuel or having to use other public transport.
    Andy From Sligo wrote: »
    yeah 2 I think - the airport itself most probably doubles up as a farm also ... with animals on it like cows and sheep ....

    Have you been there?

    I'd bet ye the tenner it's written somewhere, people just don't bother to read all of the small print.


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    #167
    Tin Foil Hat
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    Tarzana2 wrote: »
    Your whole thing on this thread has been "Why is this cost not bundled like it is everywhere else?". So no, not extra, as you have even acknowledged yourself numerous times on this thread.

    Bundled/unbundled = a cost you'd have either way. Not extra. Can't really make it any clearer.

    It would be clearer if it appeared on the original bill at booking time. It doesn't. Why? Because it's a hidden, sneaky extra charge. A shake down.


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    #168
    Graham
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    mass_debater wrote: »
    Most? It's common knowledge at this stage. You can't back up that claim

    We have established that the only significant airline does not make its passengers aware of this additional fee. On what basis are you claiming this additional fee is common knowledge amongst passengers to Ireland West Airport?


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    #169
    Kevin McCloud
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    Andy From Sligo wrote: »
    with animals on it like cows and sheep ....

    Thats no way to talk about people from donegal :pac:


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    #170
    Tarzana2
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    Tin Foil Hat wrote: »
    It would be clearer if it appeared on the original bill at booking time. It doesn't. Why? Because it's a hidden, sneaky extra charge. A shake down.

    OK, here we go again.

    Knock Airport informs you on the website, though it could be displayed better than as a moving banner ad.

    From my own usage of Knock Airport, I know there are signs everywhere before you even go through to departures advising you of the charge.

    Other airlines inform you before you confirm the booking.

    Ryanair doesn't for whatever reason.

    So for airlines other than Ryanair, it is very clear and you can abort the process if you're not happy.

    We need to be questioning why Ryanair doesn't make this clear like other airlines.


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    #171
    Graham
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    Tarzana2 wrote: »
    OK, here we go again.

    Knock Airport informs you on the website, though it could be displayed better than as a moving banner ad.

    Other airlines inform you before you confirm the booking.

    Ryanair doesn't for whatever reason.

    So for airlines other than Ryanair, it is very clear and you can abort the process if you're not happy.

    We need to be questioning why Ryanair doesn't make this clear like other airlines.

    Finally, you acknowledge that the majority of passengers travelling aren't informed about this fee until they are forced under threat of non-travel to pay upon departure from Knock.

    That's a start I suppose.

    It would be interesting to know what the official position is from Ireland West Airport knowing that the majority of passengers are unaware of this Airport Development Fee.


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    #172
    Fred Swanson
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    #173
    Kevin McCloud
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    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    Are they charging €10 too?


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    #174
    Andy From Sligo
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    once i went and it was a fiver to leave Knock airport ... bloody cheek I thought .. then next time I went it was a tenner! ... I bet the next time I go it will be 15 or 20euro! - bloody scammers! - their departure fee is rising more than the average wages are!


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    #175
    Fred Swanson
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    #176
    Kevin McCloud
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    Andy From Sligo wrote: »
    I bet the next time I go it will be 15 or 20euro! - bloody scammers! - their departure fee is rising more than the average wages are!

    If it rises to €20 that is the price of the cheap ryanair flight.


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    #177
    oppenheimer1
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    Andy From Sligo wrote: »
    once i went and it was a fiver to leave Knock airport ... bloody cheek I thought .. then next time I went it was a tenner! ... I bet the next time I go it will be 15 or 20euro! - bloody scammers! - their departure fee is rising more than the average wages are!

    Well the next time you are planning on travelling you should check before you book. If the fee is too much then travel from somewhere else.


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    #178
    Graham
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    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    I would imagine the threat of being left stranded at Knock airport would see most passengers pay up regardless of the rights and wrongs of it. The airport signage certainly suggests you might not be permitted to travel if you don't pay.

    Do you know otherwise Fred? Is this additional charge optional?


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    #179
    rainbowtrout
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    Graham wrote: »
    Finally, you acknowledge that the majority of passengers travelling aren't informed about this fee until they are forced under threat of non-travel to pay upon departure from Knock.

    That's a start I suppose.

    It would be interesting to know what the official position is from Ireland West Airport knowing that the majority of passengers are unaware of this Airport Development Fee.

    No. Ryanair don't inform passengers of the fee. That doesn't mean passengers are unaware of it. I've only ever flown out of Knock on Ryanair and I'm aware of the fee.


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    #180
    Andy From Sligo
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    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    most probably get a criminal record these days if you don pay it ... or maybe if you dont pay it these days you dont get to your destination .... safely! :eek:


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    #181
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    Andy From Sligo wrote: »
    i reckon all these ones on here saying "its only a tenner - Pay Up!" must be rich, must have money to burn so they must! ;) - ten euro to them must be like 10cents :)

    Your posts are doing my head in!

    78 euro to fly to a destination from Dublin. 53 euro (inclusive of development fee) to fly to same destination from Knock. Yeah, no brainer, all those flying from Knock are rolling it due to the fact that they chose a cheaper option!


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