Sold a car - sending logbook to shannon.

mickdw

Just being extra careful here but having sold a car, I will be posting off logbook on Monday.
The book itself just gives the address as department of transport shannon while the department of transport website says to send it to computer services division, department of transport.
I just want to send it to most direct address to avoid any delays as government departments can be rather poor in moving stuff around internally. Anyone got recent experience?
Also, do people send these recorded delivery or not?

colm_mcm

Nah, just send it to the dept.
that's what the bulk of their mail is.

Also its freepost so no need for a stamp.

GanAnim

You can get a proof of postage receipt for free if you go into the post office and buy your stamp for the letter there. It will list the sender and who the letter was addressed to. I am not sure how much use it is in the event that the log book goes missing in the post, or if the tax office lose it (seems fairly unlikely but it could happen), but at least it would prove that you had posted it.

quadrifoglio verde

colm_mcm wrote: »

Nah, just send it to the dept.
that's what the bulk of their mail is.

Also its freepost so no need for a stamp.

It's freepost?
Balls

hillbloom

I wouldn't chance sending it FREEPOST. Very few thing can be sent FREEPOST nowadays. Put a 68 cent stamp on it!!

corktina

I never put a stamp on letters to the Government or Council

blade1

I have sent off 4 or 5 in the last 2 years by free post.
I have also received 7 in the same time.
Not an issue any time!

Nothing stopping you from registering it, if you really want piece of mind.
Personally, I wouldn't bother.

Miaireland

If you are worried send it recorded delivery omn the website I am sure you will find a phonenumber, ask to speak to the relevant section and ask for the exact address and the name of some one to mark it to the attention to.

colm_mcm

hillbloom wrote: »

I wouldn't chance sending it FREEPOST. Very few thing can be sent FREEPOST nowadays. Put a 68 cent stamp on it!!

Anything for dept of environment is freepost

coylemj

mickdw wrote: »

Just being extra careful here but having sold a car, I will be posting off logbook on Monday.
The book itself just gives the address as department of transport shannon while the department of transport website says to send it to computer services division, department of transport.

This is what happens when you research something on the web, you get deflected and confused with too much information. Send it to the address on the vehicle cert. As long as it says Dept of Transport and Shannon it will get to the right place.

Do not send it recorded delivery and not register it, just stick it in a plain envelope and post it off.

Adrian J Lynch

Send it to the department using an post registered post

HungryJoey

I had the same issue this week, being unsure where to actually send the log book. Conflicting information on the website vs. logbook itself.

ninty9er

hillbloom wrote: »

I wouldn't chance sending it FREEPOST. Very few thing can be sent FREEPOST nowadays. Put a 68 cent stamp on it!!

If it doesn't get there Freepost* a stamp isn't going to change matters.

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Freepost?
Jaysus the amount of cars I bought and sold not knowing that

coylemj

HungryJoey wrote: »

I had the same issue this week, being unsure where to actually send the log book. Conflicting information on the website vs. logbook itself.

There is only one division of the Dept of Transport in Shannon and it's the 'Driver and Vehicle Computer Services Division' so as long as you address it simply to the 'Dept of Transport, Shannon, Co. Clare', where else is it going to go?

corktina

Adrian J Lynch wrote: »

Send it to the department using an post registered post

what does that prove other than you sent an envelope, which might be empty?

mickdw

corktina wrote: »

what does that prove other than you sent an envelope, which might be empty?

Its not about proof. It will guarantee that it actually reaches the people in shannon as opposed to possibly being trampled in s sorting office somewhere.

coylemj

mickdw wrote: »

Its not about proof. It will guarantee that it actually reaches the people in shannon as opposed to possibly being trampled in s sorting office somewhere.

I often get letters showing signs that someone tried to peel open the flap on the envelope, have yet to see footprint marks on any of them!

Registering that type of letter is a waste of money.

mickdw

coylemj wrote: »

I often get letters showing signs that someone tried to peel open the flap on the envelope, have yet to see footprint marks on any of them!

Me either cause the trampled ones never get delivered.
Ask someone who works in postal service. Mountains of letters go awol.

coylemj

mickdw wrote: »

Ask someone who works in postal service. Mountains of letters go awol.

I think that's more a symptom of the chronically bad industrial relations in An Post - employees bad mouthing the service. 'Mountains of letters' do not go missing.

colm_mcm

To be in the safe side, OP could always drive to shannon and hand-deliver it in. Its beside Texaco.

HungryJoey

coylemj wrote: »

There is only one division of the Dept of Transport in Shannon and it's the 'Driver and Vehicle Computer Services Division' so as long as you address it simply to the 'Dept of Transport, Shannon, Co. Clare', where else is it going to go?

Well, according to the instructions on my log book it states "Send this certificate to: "Department of the environment, Heritage and Local Government, Shannon, Co. Clare."

So yes - conflicting information.

mickdw

HungryJoey wrote: »

Well, according to the instructions on my log book it states "Send this certificate to: "Department of the environment, Heritage and Local Government, Shannon, Co. Clare."

So yes - conflicting information.

Depends when logbook was issued. That's why I checked for a current address online.

coylemj

If you addressed it to the following.....

The department that looks after vehicle change of ownership
Shannon
Ireland

It will get there. How many Govt. departments are there in Shannon?

mickdw

coylemj wrote: »

I think that's more a symptom of the chronically bad industrial relations in An Post - employees bad mouthing the service. 'Mountains of letters' do not go missing.

I handle a fair bit of Business mail, stuff I would be expecting and stuff I'd also send out would be expected so always reported to me if it doesn't arrive and I can tell you my loss rate would be around 1 per hundred for Standard mail with no losses on registered mail.
A large business quoted 1 per thousand lost before so Id be willing to go with that figure as being more accurate.
Considering an post handle up to 3 million items per day, 1 per thousand amounts to 3000 lost letters per day.
An post themselves quote 50000 undelivered each week due to incomplete addresses, damage etc

HungryJoey

coylemj wrote: »

If you addressed it to the following.....

The department that looks after vehicle change of ownership
Shannon
Ireland

It will get there. How many Govt. departments are there in Shannon?

Why should I know the answer to that? As far as I am concerned if I want to send a letter to a particular; I address it to that particular. I don't want to send a letter to an address based on the assumption there is only one governing body office in Shannon.

Anyway... my point being the information on my logbook (8 years old) simply doesn't reflect the same information on the environ.ie website so it left me questioning where to send it.

(insert name)

Pat Spillane once claimed he received a letter addressed simply to

Pat Spillane
The Bollox
Kerry

Rushy Fields

Hi. I sold my car to a stranger on the web the other day. I was paid. But i forgot to sign the vehicle reg cert. I left it in the bloody car. Tried ringing guy. I have no address of him. Is there anything i can do? Or should i be worried?

Cleveland Hot Pocket

nealger wrote: »

Hi. I sold my car to a stranger on the web the other day. I was paid. But i forgot to sign the vehicle reg cert. I left it in the bloody car. Tried ringing guy. I have no address of him. Is there anything i can do? Or should i be worried?

If you have his name request a replacement VLC and fill in the details.

Rushy Fields

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

If you have his name request a replacement VLC and fill in the details.

Thanks; but I have no name for the guy. he was buying it for the girlfriend! should I be worried?

surpy

worst that can happen is they dont change it over and you are liable for fines, tolls etc.
theres a form you can fill out but you need to pay a tenner to get a solictor to witness it
that gets the car out of your name and its up to the other person to register it when they want to tax it (or a garda stops them and finds it unregistered)

Fred Swanson

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surpy

Fred Swanson wrote: »

I don't think that works where you have no details of the other guy.

I used it for that. 2 months after I sold a car, the form hadn't shown up in Shannon and I found out when I got an m50 toll. I couldn't remember any details, other guys and phone was off, i just got the declaration part witnessed and sent it off. Afaik they don't register the car in the other persons name even if you provide it.

mgbgt1978

nealger wrote: »

Hi. I sold my car to a stranger on the web the other day. I was paid. But i forgot to sign the vehicle reg cert. I left it in the bloody car. Tried ringing guy. I have no address of him. Is there anything i can do? Or should i be worried?

If he's not answering his phone, give it a fortnight and see if the change of ownership appears on motortax.ie . If not, apply for a replacement VLC (as the car will still be in your name) and come back on here for some tips on how to proceed.;)

mickdw

I started this thread querying the correct postal address for sending logbook.
Anyway, I can confirm that the department seem rather efficient. Posted on a Monday, change recorded on the website by Wednesday morning and logbook issued the following day.

inger

If you are near Shannon, is it a good idea to just hand in the logbook in person to make it faster? do they have a drop box for logbooks in that DOT branch?

quadrifoglio verde

I can also confirm that if you send something to them without a stamp, they'll still receive it no problem

coylemj

inger wrote: »

If you are near Shannon, is it a good idea to just hand in the logbook in person to make it faster? do they have a drop box for logbooks in that DOT branch?

Only if you are the buyer, the seller handed you the cert and you want to tax it. Otherwise 'is it a good idea'? No.

bazz26

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biko

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