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The Talking Bread wrote: »

although this article seems to diprove my theory regarding its future!

http://entertainment.ie/tv/news/TV3s-Red-Rock-headed-to-the-US-with-Amazon-Prime/373268.htm

anyone know if this has been confirmed??

TV3 couldn't be happier with the show and the ratings don't include those watching on the player or those who wait for the omnibus (which I'm sure is a lot in this day and age), plus with the IFTAs and the Amazon Prime deal there's no danger of it getting axed anytime soon. And as mentioned, very likely that they'll do away with the summer break as well going forward. So don't be worrying about it getting cancelled - it's doing well.

Keep an eye out for a St Stephen's Day docu-special on TV3 about the first year of Red Rock with cast interviews and special guests - which may or may not include me

The Talking Bread

Trust me I amn't worried! I never took to it!! Some of the cliché stories never took my fancy! And TV3 are releasing press statements saying how happy with the show. This is a common marketing ploy with stations to ensure advertisement interest.

I am not saying the acting is bad or all of the plots are bad. Some are very inventive, anytime I have a look, but there are also viewer ratings on Player facilities which are actually more accurate as they can acknowledge the clicks and streaming, and these are released regularly by most stations also, as are Plus 1 viewer figures. They invested a lot getting the show on the road so the fact that viewer figures are dwindling can't be recognised as a positive thing.

As I said, this isn't criticising the shows plots or actors so I would hope fans don't jump on the Defence Wagon if they here any negativity towards what I am saying but when you see shows like Brookside, The Bill and other long term
Programmes by broadcasters you realise how important viewing figures are.

Only reason I am bringing this up is , i saw an article which concentrated on the impact of soaps which brought up the chances of Red Rock becoming a long term project and the writer wasn't very confident of this.

Strazdas

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Trust me I amn't worried! I never took to it!! Some of the cliché stories never took my fancy! And TV3 are releasing press statements saying how happy with the show. This is a common marketing ploy with stations to ensure advertisement interest.

I am not saying the acting is bad or all of the plots are bad. Some are very inventive, anytime I have a look, but there are also viewer ratings on Player facilities which are actually more accurate as they can acknowledge the clicks and streaming, and these are released regularly by most stations also, as are Plus 1 viewer figures. They invested a lot getting the show on the road so the fact that viewer figures are dwindling can't be recognised as a positive thing.

As I said, this isn't criticising the shows plots or actors so I would hope fans don't jump on the Defence Wagon if they here any negativity towards what I am saying but when you see shows like Brookside, The Bill and other long term
Programmes by broadcasters you realise how important viewing figures are.

Only reason I am bringing this up is , i saw an article which concentrated on the impact of soaps which brought up the chances of Red Rock becoming a long term project and the writer wasn't very confident of this.

The Bill wasn't that popular in it's early days though. For the first four years of it's existence (1984-88), there were only 12 one hour episodes per year and it was actually many years before it became a ratings winner.

The Talking Bread

Strazdas wrote: »

The Bill wasn't that popular in it's early days though. For the first four years of it's existence (1984-88), there were only 12 one hour episodes per year and it was actually many years before it became a ratings winner.

Yeah, but ITV have a far far bigger budget and advertising revenue than TV3 and their viewership incorporates all the UK so it could afford a relatively low rating. TV3 are struggling somewhat, financially, hence the low homemade programmes..

Strazdas

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Yeah, but ITV have a far far bigger budget and advertising revenue than TV3 and their viewership incorporates all the UK so it could afford a relatively low rating. TV3 are struggling somewhat, financially, hence the low homemade programmes..

TV3 was recently bought by Virgin Media Ireland and it's future is secure. By all accounts, they are very happy with Red Rock's ratings. They have already decided to extend the show beyond it's initial two year run.

Lollipop95

Lots of speculation on another forum that McKay could be the Christmas death, have to say I agree And in a cruel twist of fate and in true soap style Claire will probably find out she's pregnant right before he dies and is rushing to tell him but never gets the chance. Or she finds out after his death. I hope he doesn't die though, does seem like he will though and apparently the actor wasn't at the IFTAS. Which doesn't mean he's left but lots of things do seem to be pointing that way.

McKay could be replaced by Nicki or even Rory and Red Rock aren't afraid to take risks. It would be a shame though, just as the character starts to get interesting.

Monife

Lollipop95 wrote: »

Lots of speculation on another forum that McKay could be the Christmas death, have to say I agree And in a cruel twist of fate and in true soap style Claire will probably find out she's pregnant right before he dies and is rushing to tell him but never gets the chance. Or she finds out after his death. I hope he doesn't die though, does seem like he will though and apparently the actor wasn't at the IFTAS. Which doesn't mean he's left but lots of things do seem to be pointing that way.

McKay could be replaced by Nicki or even Rory and Red Rock aren't afraid to take risks. It would be a shame though, just as the character starts to get interesting.

Really hope that's not true, I love McKay!

Strazdas

Monife wrote: »

Really hope that's not true, I love McKay!

It's all only speculation by fans though, there are no actual rumours

prodsc

McKay is a bit too obvious now...I think it will be a surprise!

Strazdas

prodsc wrote: »

McKay is a bit too obvious now...I think it will be a surprise!

Yes indeed, they might deliberately be trying to wrong foot us

SarahBM

that promo gave absolutely nothing away!!!

Lollipop95

prodsc wrote: »

McKay is a bit too obvious now...I think it will be a surprise!

Hopefully!

messrs

Lollipop95 wrote: »

Lots of speculation on another forum that McKay could be the Christmas death, have to say I agree And in a cruel twist of fate and in true soap style Claire will probably find out she's pregnant right before he dies and is rushing to tell him but never gets the chance. Or she finds out after his death. I hope he doesn't die though, does seem like he will though and apparently the actor wasn't at the IFTAS. Which doesn't mean he's left but lots of things do seem to be pointing that way.

McKay could be replaced by Nicki or even Rory and Red Rock aren't afraid to take risks. It would be a shame though, just as the character starts to get interesting.

Below spoiler is from the Christmas edition of TV Now, so if you don't want to know, then don't read the article about Red Rock in TV Now (or the below!!)

I don't know if McKay is the Christmas death, but Claire does find out that she is pregnant, and she does tell him, so maybe he dies after that, also read in The Christmas TV Now that the Keilys are not happy with the sentence that Michael Hennessy receives so Vincent goes after him and its just the 2 of them alone and Vincent has a shotgun and is going to kill him, says to him, an eye for an eye - don't know if he goes through with it or not, but when Katie has the baby, all the kielys and hennesseys are there apart from Vincent and michael

syklops

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Yeah, but ITV have a far far bigger budget and advertising revenue than TV3 and their viewership incorporates all the UK so it could afford a relatively low rating. TV3 are struggling somewhat, financially, hence the low homemade programmes..

Amazon Prime have acquired the rights to Red Rock for 4 years and will be streaming it in the US for 4 years. I think its pretty safe.

podgeandrodge

Lollipop95 wrote: »

McKay could be replaced by Nicki or even Rory and Red Rock aren't afraid to take risks.

Good God NO! Nicki has just gone for a promotion below Super anyway. Rory can't tie his shoelaces yet.

My biggest fear is that they will get a ballbreaker woman though, just because. I'm getting tired of it in too many movies/series. The series needs a Garda Super with some maturity to reflect real life too.

syklops

Very dark episode tonight. I think they made a mistake with Podge. He was the source of a lot of the humour in the first year. He could have added some comic relief in tonights episode.

Wheres Sharon? Not seen her in ages.

banoffe2

Love Red Rock, tonight was gripping with the court room drama, good acting, didn't expect that outcome for Michael Hennessey sentence

HeidiHeidi

Lovely to see the old Green Street courtroom again - there's some atmosphere about that place!

But I cannot get past Claire representing her brother - "my client". That's just so far from reality as to practically ruin that whole storyline for me.

syklops

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Lovely to see the old Green Street courtroom again - there's some atmosphere about that place!

But I cannot get past Claire representing her brother - "my client". That's just so far from reality as to practically ruin that whole storyline for me.

At the very least the Judge commented on it saying it was strange, but I don't get why it was necessary.

Claire going "And Michael has been volunteering at the local community centre"
Judge:"Yes I can see that".

HeidiHeidi

syklops wrote: »

At the very least the Judge commented on it saying it was strange, but I don't get why it was necessary.

Claire going "And Michael has been volunteering at the local community centre"
Judge:"Yes I can see that".

The judge was commenting on the fact that Claire wanted to address the court - normally solicitors don't, it's the barristers do all the talking (if they're employed in a case).

It's just such a glaring conflict of interest - not to mention the case being investigated under McKay - it just stretches my credulity to breaking point.

But hey, the case is over now (bar the shouting, and I'm sure there'll be plenty of that!), I'll just have to get over it

Strazdas

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

The judge was commenting on the fact that Claire wanted to address the court - normally solicitors don't, it's the barristers do all the talking (if they're employed in a case).

It's just such a glaring conflict of interest - not to mention the case being investigated under McKay - it just stretches my credulity to breaking point.

But hey, the case is over now (bar the shouting, and I'm sure there'll be plenty of that!), I'll just have to get over it

Nice to see it being filmed in a real courtroom though, made it seem much more realistic.

Atlantic Dawn

I see Ian Dempsey is narrating a catchup episode on St. Stephens Day to look back at the story of Red Rock so far, might be worth a watch for any newcomers to the show.

pl4ichjgy17zwd

This is still speculation on my part, but I was in a room with a family member of Richard Flood (McKay) and they mentioned offhand he'd had to leave the show because he was moving to Italy with his partner and their baby. This was back in August so I wouldn't be surprised if McKay was the death.

desbrook

One night where you'd think the Hennesseys would hire a bouncer for the pub !!

MonkstownHoop

Baby on the way, textbook soap killing

Kerrydude1981

Them Hennessy boys love the old top shelf,

Also where is Sharon gone?

Red Rock need Sharon back

dubscottie

I think it could be Adrijan that dies..

There has been scenes in most of the recent episodes of him holding his head/rubbing eyes etc that does not get mentioned in the script.

It could be that there is some unknown head injury from the hit and run that is slowly ticking away..

Strazdas

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Them Hennessy boys love the old top shelf,

Also where is Sharon gone?

Red Rock need Sharon back

Sharon was pictured on set today at the Garda station so she's definitely on the way back

Alfasudcrazy

Can't ever get into this show - its like Fair City but full of cops. Also find it hard to take it seriously when you see the Superintendent getting too involved with the low lifes downstairs. Seeing the Super getting all hands on just does not happen in real life. Sometimes seeing him/her at all is akin to a visit from the queen.

Quite rare to have such a young Superintendent too. He might be credible as an Inspector on the fast track but ordinarily he would just be a Sergeant - also on the fast track (to future promotions)

MonkstownHoop

Alfasudcrazy wrote: »

Can't ever get into this show - its like Fair City but full of cops. Also find it hard to take it seriously when you see the Superintendent getting too involved with the low lifes downstairs. Seeing the Super getting all hands on just does not happen in real life. Sometimes seeing him/her at all is akin to a visit from the queen.

Quite rare to have such a young Superintendent too. He might be credible as an Inspector on the fast track but ordinarily he would just be a Sergeant - also on the fast track (to future promotions)

Do you live in a garda station?

Go Harvey Go

Alfasudcrazy wrote: »

Can't ever get into this show - its like Fair City but full of cops.

That's kind of like comparing apples with oranges, IMHO...

messrs

dubscottie wrote: »

I think it could be Adrijan that dies..

There has been scenes in most of the recent episodes of him holding his head/rubbing eyes etc that does not get mentioned in the script.

It could be that there is some unknown head injury from the hit and run that is slowly ticking away..

I really hope your wrong on this :mad:

syklops

dubscottie wrote: »

I think it could be Adrijan that dies..

There has been scenes in most of the recent episodes of him holding his head/rubbing eyes etc that does not get mentioned in the script.

It could be that there is some unknown head injury from the hit and run that is slowly ticking away..

Its a tough one to call. Claires pregnancy would suggest McKay. Adrijan's headaches could also suggest he is on the way out. I was wondering could it be Podge? I hope its not, but you never know.

It goes to show how good RR is. Ive been watching Corrie and other soaps for nearly 20 years and every so often there is a death and/or a character leaves. The rumour of a RR death has got me going "Oh I hope its not McKay. Or Podge, not Podge! And don't let it be Sharon etc..."

gazzer

syklops wrote: »

Its a tough one to call. Claires pregnancy would suggest McKay. Adrijan's headaches could also suggest he is on the way out. I was wondering could it be Podge? I hope its not, but you never know.

It goes to show how good RR is. Ive been watching Corrie and other soaps for nearly 20 years and every so often there is a death and/or a character leaves. The rumour of a RR death has got me going "Oh I hope its not McKay. Or Podge, not Podge! And don't let it be Sharon etc..."

I dont think it will be Adrijan as whom ever dies I think it is

a murder

as

there are lots of police involved afterwards

. I also dont think it will be McHay as

I cant see them having a policeman murdered

I think it will Claire. That would have the most impact as she has her husband and family left behind, plus the fact she is pregnant.

Strazdas

syklops wrote: »

Its a tough one to call. Claires pregnancy would suggest McKay. Adrijan's headaches could also suggest he is on the way out. I was wondering could it be Podge? I hope its not, but you never know.

It goes to show how good RR is. Ive been watching Corrie and other soaps for nearly 20 years and every so often there is a death and/or a character leaves. The rumour of a RR death has got me going "Oh I hope its not McKay. Or Podge, not Podge! And don't let it be Sharon etc..."

The trailers for this week's episodes look dramatic anyway, lots of Paudge and Beady stuff and it looks like Paudge's unfortunate mum gets dragged into things.

messrs

Strazdas wrote: »

The trailers for this week's episodes look dramatic anyway, lots of Paudge and Beady stuff and it looks like Paudge's unfortunate mum gets dragged into things.

Any chance it is Paudge's mum they kill or is she 2 minor of a character ?

desbrook

messrs wrote: »

Any chance it is Paudge's mum they kill or is she 2 minor of a character ?

The point of a death storyline is not who dies its who gets left behind. Stan Ogdens death in Corrie was defined by Hilda's reaction and is probably the best example. The aftermath that Podge would be left with would make this a real runner for a storyline with me anyway ....

Strazdas

messrs wrote: »

Any chance it is Paudge's mum they kill or is she 2 minor of a character ?

I don't think it's the mum myself, seeing as we've only seen her a couple of times on the show.

HeidiHeidi

Ah, now, they'd never kill off Mammy :eek:

Would they?

No, no way.

(all to be said in the best Paudge accent)

desbrook

Strazdas wrote: »

I don't think it's the mum myself, seeing as we've only seen her a couple of times on the show.

We never saw Darren...

Strazdas

desbrook wrote: »

We never saw Darren...

Indeed, but I'm sure they've said something about one of the main characters being killed off, which definitely excludes Paudge's mum.

desbrook

So hope it's Michael Hennessy - go Vinnie !

( but no doubt he'll miss and hit the brother )

Atlantic Dawn

I can't see Vinnie missing wearing those lucky shoes...

desbrook

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I can't see Vinnie missing wearing those lucky shoes...

I can ....

Lollipop95

I'm confused, I thought that it was actually David who killed Darren and Michael was just covering for him. Patricia knew this and accepted it? No?

Still think McKay is going to be the one that is murdered.

syklops

Yeah, I think its Podge.

Nice to see Sharon back. That sweater did not compliment her though.

Strazdas

Lollipop95 wrote: »

I'm confused, I thought that it was actually David who killed Darren and Michael was just covering for him. Patricia knew this and accepted it? No?

Still think McKay is going to be the one that is murdered.

The other way around I think. David was in the frame for Darren's murder but it subsequently emerged that Michael was the real killer.

Monife

Strazdas wrote: »

The other way around I think. David was in the frame for Darren's murder but it subsequently emerged that Michael was the real killer.

I think Michael was the first suspect. They were both involved in beating him up at the Hennessy's pub because he was blackmailing David. Then Darren left and I'm not sure if Michael followed him or met him on the street and punched him once and he fell and subsequently died. Michael told Katie that David was involved and he was arrested but later cleared of all charges. That's why Patricia is giving Michael the business, because he's going to pay for Darren's death when it was both David and Michael's fault.

Strazdas

Monife wrote: »

I think Michael was the first suspect. They were both involved in beating him up at the Hennessy's pub because he was blackmailing David. Then Darren left and I'm not sure if Michael followed him or met him on the street and punched him once and he fell and subsequently died. Michael told Katie that David was involved and he was arrested but later cleared of all charges. That's why Patricia is giving Michael the business, because he's going to pay for Darren's death when it was both David and Michael's fault.

Oh, that's right, I forgot that both brothers were involved in the killing.

Atlantic Dawn

I was expecting the death tonight with Vinnie shooting someone or him being shot, then I thought it was a plot twist and there was going to be a bomb under Paudges car, looks like next week the death will be.