RTE Primetime - Special needs people getting tortured in a facility

In Lonesome Dove

Christ

duckcfc

Lord Trollington wrote: »

They are hard work. They are not strung out on drugs threatening workers with a knife.

They have severe mental and physical disabilities. They require specialist treatment which is what that home is suppose to supply. Workers are suppose to be trained to deal with special needw. Not sit on their phone or smoking leaving patients in chairs for 11 hours

No one has the abilty to be cam all day with them. They are seriously hard work of whatbi seen. If you pussy foot around them, you'll have your hands full I tell ya because they will be worse

Guy:Incognito

CaptainInsano wrote: »

Yes let us all be pedantic and argue about words, as is the real issue here.

Completely disgusting viewing.

Much like plenty of other cases, the evidence and case stands on its own two feet. Tabloiding it up helps no one. If anything it only causes distraction from the issues.

Casshern88

Swinford (where this was filmed) has a population of 1,435. faces blurred or not these people will be recognized and shamed in the community very quickly.

KERSPLAT!

MOD

There will be zero tolerance on trolling in this thread, just a word of warning before we go any further.

duckcfc

This happens all over Ireland and UK. Its just getting highlighted to give us something to talk about rather than the mess were in economicly

Guy:Incognito

Casshern88 wrote: »

Swinford (where this was filmed) has a population of 1,435. faces blurred or not these people will be recognized and shamed in the community very quickly.

Which makes it a win win. People know who they are and RTE are covered from a legal standpoint.

thomasm

Jesus Christ I hope these scum get what's coming

deadduck

naughtb4 wrote: »

Each clip just gets worse tbh, awful stuff

jesus, you're not wrong, this is horrific stuff

Garlicrosemary

duckcfc wrote: »

Tell me how you'd do it if it was day in day out non stop.

That's what they're paid to do, if they can't treat those disabled people with respect they can fukc off and find another job.

Frito

duckcfc wrote: »

How are you supposed to do with them thou. They are hard work

I'm not watching the programme, but I assume with dignity and respect and not abuse.
Is this the HSE run home? Not sure if it's staffed by qualified nurses, but if it is, they will probably have a degree in nursing specific to the care of people with learning disabilities (yes it's a separate discipline with research-based best practice interventions). So there's no excuse.

barney 20v

Casshern88 wrote: »

Swinford (where this was filmed) has a population of 1,435. faces blurred or not these people will be recognized and shamed in the community very quickly.

Should they not be???

My name is URL

duckcfc wrote: »

This happens all over Ireland and UK. Its just getting highlighted to give us something to talk about rather than the mess were in economicly

Forget about the 'economy'.. how do you think this makes the country as a whole look? And what's your view on what has been documented in the program... do you agree with the actions of staff?

Guy:Incognito

duckcfc wrote: »

This happens all over Ireland and UK. Its just getting highlighted to give us something to talk about rather than the mess were in economicly

There must be some right gruesome stuff on other versions of prime time around the world so. We're doing ok for ourselves.

Arsemageddon

duckcfc wrote: »

This happens all over Ireland and UK. Its just getting highlighted to give us something to talk about rather than the mess were in economicly

You've made whatever point it is your trying to make, now do everyone a favour and fuvk off

Lord Trollington

duckcfc wrote: »

No one has the abilty to be cam all day with them. They are seriously hard work of whatbi seen. If you pussy foot around them, you'll have your hands full I tell ya because they will be worse

Having an uncle and nephew with severe mental and physical disabilities I know all about how to deal with them. These people are getting paid and its their job .

They are suppose to give them the best care possible .

Personally I hope ivy kicks the solid **** out of one of them

jd83

I hope there is a special place on hell reserved for the **** in the pink hoodie

Streetwalker

Casshern88 wrote: »

Swinford (where this was filmed) has a population of 1,435. faces blurred or not these people will be recognized and shamed in the community very quickly.

Will make no difference in a town that size. Everyone will know who they are and they should be rightfully run out of the country. Absolute sub human scum

shocking ...:(

ebbsy

Nothing will happen to these workers, in fact they will get promoted. Doubt if there was ever any inspections etc.

Casshern88

barney 20v wrote: »

Should they not be???

They should indeed be i was mainly highlighting this

In Lonesome Dove

Venus In Furs wrote: »

Yes, looking after severely disabled people can be very hard work... and you don't make things worse for them by bullying and subjugating them.

Positivity works wonders and smiling too. I was lucky to meet a beautiful little boy with downs syndrome before who was fond of pulling hair and he loved my long hair. I didn't mind when he pulled my hair because he didn't mean it (there wasn't any badness in his live for hair pulling) but softly saying how about we give a kiss or a hug instead and do a póg gesture.

Streetwalker

duckcfc wrote: »

If your on about me, I can reasure you it ain't no troll. Think about the situation these workers have to face daily on low paid pay! I'm not agreeing with some of the stuff them workers have done but I understand some of it.

What??? How can you understand any of that treatment? It's criminal :mad: These "workers" need to be brought to justice.

branie2

These so-called "carers" are scumbags!

Mr. Incognito

I am actually raging watching this.

Disgusting distasteful horrible torture

Casshern88

ebbsy wrote: »

Nothing will happen to these workers, in fact they will get promoted. Doubt if there was ever any inspections etc.

Really????? what planet do you live on

duckcfc

My name is URL wrote: »

Forget about the 'economy'.. how do you think this makes the country as a whole look? And what's your view on what has been documented in the program... do you agree with the actions of staff?

Do I agree, no I don't but I understand the working conditions they are working in. Them workers will be sacked and rightly so

The Backwards Man

I kinda expected it to be worse tbh. I know quite a few people who work in these type of facilities and they are saints, far better people than I'll ever be, but there an awful lot of bad bastards too.

Cunny-Funt

This is one of the most harrowing things Ive... Its actually hard to watch. :mad:

eeepaulo

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

I am actually raging watching this.

Disgusting distasteful horrible torture

I am too, absolutely f***ing fuming

Lord Trollington

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I kinda expected it to be worse tbh. I know quite a few people who work in these type of facilities and they are saints, far better people than I'll ever be, but there an awful lot of bad bastards too.

What were u expecting exactly.

Whosthis

Pre-emptive : http://www.hse.ie/eng/services/list/4/disability/aras_Attracta/Our_Staff/ HSE already protecting their own

JRant

duckcfc wrote: »

Tell me how you'd do it if it was day in day out non stop.

First thing you do is get a clue.

Caring for people like this requires compassion and skill.

Care plans are individually tailored for each person for a reason. By ignoring the persons needs they distress them and it leads on to frustration and lashing out. Simple things like going for a walk, bryshing their hair, stroking them, literally makes that persons day. Yet these clowns are just abusing these poor people.

Educate yourself by volunteering to work, even a couple of hours, with people like this and tell us how would you do.

Dam right it's hard work but it is also incredibly rewarding when it's done properly.

In Lonesome Dove

Aren't nursing homes very expensive nearly 1000 euro a week if not more and that is what families get for it.

My name is URL

duckcfc wrote: »

Do I agree, no I don't but I understand the working conditions they are working in. Them workers will be sacked and rightly so

Many of them should be jailed for years... sacked my arse

I understand the working conditions

Looked comfortable enough to me. If you're able to sit down and drink a mug of tea while kicking residents then 'working' conditions can't be all that bad

bjork

Nine staff at the home have been placed “off-duty” – suspended – on foot of the allegations, as The Irish Times first reported.....

The first is that a regulator now exists to monitor standards at such homes. Indeed, Áras Attracta has been on Hiqa’s radar for some time; last July, an inspector’s report found some residents were left without food for up to 16 hours, and even then they were served cold food.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/co-mayo-home-called-another-leas-cross-1.2022047

The Backwards Man

Lord Trollington wrote: »

What were u expecting exactly.

Don't know exactly, but I've seen a lot worse 'care' than that first hand. I've seen a hell of a lot better too of course, that goes without saying, but the antics in that film doesn't really shock me at all unfortunately.

Gulliver

Whosthis wrote: »

Pre-emptive : http://www.hse.ie/eng/services/list/4/disability/aras_Attracta/Our_Staff/ HSE already protecting their own

Looking at that page on the Internet Archive (Wayback Machine) shows that there was never anything on that page back as far as 2013.

Streetwalker

branie2 wrote: »

These so-called "carers" are scumbags!

They need to locked up and given hard labour. Disgusting and the head of the HSE and minister in charge should be sacked in the morning.

Red21

Where is the home?

Casshern88

Red21 wrote: »

Where is the home?

mayo, swinford

bjork

Red21 wrote: »

Where is the home?

Áras Attracta Swinford Co Mayo

Fuzzy Clam

Im going to be shot for saying this but Duckcfc has a point. These people are extremely hard work. I only know this through casual contact with them many years ago. Never worked in the area. Its humans working with humans. I would love to see how some of the posters here would act in similar circumstances.
I couldn't do it, thats for sure.

Whosthis

Gulliver wrote: »

Looking at that page on the Internet Archive (Wayback Machine) shows that there was never anything on that page back as far as 2013.

Only thought of checking that myself after I posted.

ebbsy

Fuzzy Clam wrote: »

Im going to be shot for saying this but Duckcfc has a point. These people are extremely hard work. I only know this through casual contact with them many years ago. Never worked in the area. Its humans working with humans. I would love to see how some of the posters here would act in similar circumstances.
I couldn't do it, thats for sure.

They were not trained right that is for sure.

Bleating Lamb

Terrible to see people's dignity destroyed by those lazy inhuman 'carers'

One good thing out of that is that Ireland is a small place ...as is likes of Swinford so those 'carers' will be shamed and easily identified in their local areas.

KERSPLAT!

Fuzzy Clam wrote: »

Im going to be shot for saying this but Duckcfc has a point. These people are extremely hard work. I only know this through casual contact with them many years ago. Never worked in the area. Its humans working with humans. I would love to see how some of the posters here would act in similar circumstances.
I couldn't do it, thats for sure.

If you can't do the job properly then you shouldn't be there.

yellow hen

Fuzzy Clam wrote: »

Im going to be shot for saying this but Duckcfc has a point. These people are extremely hard work. I only know this through casual contact with them many years ago. Never worked in the area. Its humans working with humans. I would love to see how some of the posters here would act in similar circumstances.
I couldn't do it, thats for sure.

But that's the point-if you can't do it, you don't put yourself in that position. What those people have done is unforgivable. There is no excuse.

Kevin McCloud

Suspended staff still getting wages, what a joke.

Quazzie

9 "off duty" means they will get full wages for the time being, and will so for the foreseeable future.

Well done HSE.