TD claims gardaí involved in drugs trade

Little CuChulainn

bjork wrote: »

Are you sitting on the floor because you'll hurt yourself falling off your chair laughing when you read the following :pac:


http://www.thejournal.ie/maurice-mccabe-penalty-points-new-claims-1671562-Sep2014/ Sep 15 1:38 PM


He added that the allegations related to a “significant number” of points being cancelled on spurious grounds, including “no known address” being listed, despite the points pertaining to serving Garda members.

The allegations are not really supportable. For one thing, neither garda personnel records nor relationships are recorded on pulse so the allegations of friends and family being aided cannot be supported by anything but speculation. The law is also misrepresented. A garda need not be in a state car or in an emergency to be exempt, they need only be in the course of their duty. This can include driving a friends car to court if needs be. Wether McCabe deliberately misrepresented the info or was misrepresented for political points is debatable.

In relation to your concerns about garda address issues, the FCPS system is automated and runs off vehicle registration records alone. Undelivered ones are often not followed up. It's a serious flaw in the system and the reason for a lot of tickets not being delivered, and not just to Gardai.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

One eyed Jack wrote: »

This coming from the politician who blew off two million in tax evasion as if it was nothing? He should examine his own behaviour first before he starts making accusations about other people.

Tax evasion, drug dealing... yea I can see the similarities there buddy...

Little CuChulainn

gene_slackman wrote: »

Clare Daly who the guards tried to stitch up last year , you take a big risk by speaking up to AGS

By forcing her to make an illegal turn and drink whiskey beforehand so her breath smelled of alcohol?

michael999999

Maybe that 70k that went missing from the evidence locker was used to fund the first shipment?

I can see a badly made TV3 movie about this!

skooterblue2

Here is one for ye?

Remember a few years ago a female Garda was in the Drugs squad. She went to the President (WTF?) with the claim that when a certain Guard was on an Op ..... it always failed. She brought it to the Attention of everyone she could and no one would listen and then she was dismissed for breaking the chain of command.

That is the country we live in.

Padraig Mor

Muahahaha wrote: »

What he did may not have been legal, but it was definitely honourable.

We are talking about the same Mick Wallace who also pocketed his workers' pension payments for himself yeah? A disgrace of a man, who seems to have no shortage of gullible fools to defend him.

bjork

michael999999 wrote: »

Maybe that 70k that went missing from the evidence locker was used to fund the first shipment?

I can see a badly made TV3 movie about this!

Can we get brendan Gleeson on th ecase. I'd like to see that film

Garda steals evidence money to pay off dealers!


Did the ever find the the thieving Garda or was it just too hard for them to figure out?

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Little CuChulainn wrote: »

The law is also misrepresented. A garda need not be in a state car or in an emergency to be exempt, they need only be in the course of their duty. This can include driving a friends car to court if needs be.

That may be legal but it's still farcical. If I'm speeding cos I'm late to work I get points like everyone else. What your saying essentially is it's totally fine for the Garda, and whether it's an emergency and they actually need to speed in part of their duty is irrelevant.

And as for "ah that was me driving the friends car, I was on the way to court sure and thought I might be late" :rolleyes:

chancer12

One eyed Jack wrote: »

This coming from the politician who blew off two million in tax evasion as if it was nothing? He should examine his own behaviour first before he starts making accusations about other people.

'attack is the best form of defence', Himself and the Shinners spend their time shouting abuse at anyone and everyone in the 'establishment' to detract from their own antics. He's a tedious little man with little to offer

h2005

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

By forcing her to make an illegal turn and drink whiskey beforehand so her breath smelled of alcohol?

I'd be more concerned that the story was leaked to the media.

Muahahaha

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

By forcing her to make an illegal turn and drink whiskey beforehand so her breath smelled of alcohol?

And perhaps by then immediately leaking details of the arrest to the media? What a low life thing to do, people are entitled to their good name rather than members of the force who are supposed to protect the community deciding to squeal to journalists within 10 minutes of arresting a TD on suspected charges

What the Gardai did to Clare Daly in leaking her arrest was a new low. Then again if the Ian Bailey case runs its full course we're in for more new lows when the High Court starts playing those secret tapes from Bandon and Schull Garda station. I bet there are a few crime journalists ****ting themselves right now about how much these tapes are going to reveal collusion between the Gardai and the media in selling the idea that it was defintely Ian Bailey who did the murder. The Gardai were supplying journalists with a constant ream of lies and journalists were printing it. Should make for more high days of drama and more new lows for AGS. A few of Ireland's most well known crime journalists could soon be finding themselves with egg all over their face in a very public manner, fun times ahead indeed=)

Muahahaha

bjork wrote: »

Did the ever find the the thieving Garda or was it just too hard for them to figure out?

Which one are you talking about, I think there was several incidences of Gardai stealing money from their own stations, I think I remember Balbriggan station being one for a figure of about €9k but there were defintely a few others.

You've also got that Garda who was caught stealing money from a bank ATM in Blanchardstown recently, he was pulling a trick whereby he asked for €150 and would then only take €100 of it. The machine would pull back in the remaining €50 but due to older technology it would assume it had got the entire €150 back and credit your account for the full amount. I can only assume this Garda heard about this trick from a criminal during the course of his duties and then decided to have a go at it himself. It worked but then he got greedy and did it a further three or four times and suddenly the bank copped it and the reviewed CCTV to catch the Garda stealing money from them. The sum total was something pathetic like €400, a really insignicant amount to steal when you figure out a Garda pension is worth over €1m+, you'd want to be pretty dumb to risk your entire career and a pension pot that will make you a millionaire all over a measly €400. But dumb he was.

Little CuChulainn

nm wrote: »

That may be legal but it's still farcical. If I'm speeding cos I'm late to work I get points like everyone else. What your saying essentially is it's totally fine for the Garda, and whether it's an emergency and they actually need to speed in part of their duty is irrelevant.

And as for "ah that was me driving the friends car, I was on the way to court sure and thought I might be late" :rolleyes:

May be farcical but it's still the law. It's there for good reason too. In cases where it's being abused GSOc can still investigate with a view to breach of discipline. Incidentally, it's not limited to Gardaí alone.

h2005 wrote: »

I'd be more concerned that the story was leaked to the media.

Muahahaha wrote: »

And perhaps by then immediately leaking details of the arrest to the media? What a low life thing to do, people are entitled to their good name rather than members of the force who are supposed to protect the community deciding to squeal to journalists within 10 minutes of arresting a TD on suspected charges

What the Gardai did to Clare Daly in leaking her arrest was a new low. Then again if the Ian Bailey case runs its full course we're in for more new lows when the High Court starts playing those secret tapes from Bandon and Schull Garda station. I bet there are a few crime journalists ****ting themselves right now about how much these tapes are going to reveal collusion between the Gardai and the media in selling the idea that it was defintely Ian Bailey who did the murder. The Gardai were supplying journalists with a constant ream of lies and journalists were printing it. Should make for more high days of drama and more new lows for AGS. A few of Ireland's most well known crime journalists could soon be finding themselves with egg all over their face in a very public manner, fun times ahead indeed=)

I wasn't aware that any evidence indicating a Garda had leaked the story had been discovered. Have ye a link to it? Or is is yet another thing that is just supposed to be accepted?

EDIT:

Muahahaha wrote: »

What the Gardai did to Clare Daly in leaking her arrest was a new low.

Sorry, I just have to come back to this. Wasn't Clare Daly one of the TDs to leak the names of thousands of people who had fines cancelled with not a single shred of evidence to indicate any wrongdoing on their part?

Muahahaha

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

I wasn't aware that any evidence indicating a Garda had leaked the story had been discovered. Have ye a link to it? Or is is yet another thing that is just supposed to be accepted?

So the Garda arrest Clare Daly, a TD who has done sterling work in exposing how corrupt the force really is, and then information of her arrest immediately gets into the media. It was so immediate that the Herald were able to print it for their edition. And after all that you expect people to believe that it wasn't the Gardai who leaked this information, all of this despite the fact that reams of copy in the Sunday World and Sindo every single week are based on Garda leak after Garda leak. The Gardai are probably the most leaky institution in this entire State and you expect people to believe that the didn't leak information of Clare Daly's arrest. How naive of you, only a child or a vested interest wouldn't be able to see through that ruse. But of course I know you're going to provide me with evidence to show that the Gardai didn't leak the information, aren't you?

Sorry, I just have to come back to this. Wasn't Clare Daly one of the TDs to leak the names of thousands of people who had fines cancelled with not a single shred of evidence to indicate any wrongdoing on their part?

You'll have no trouble linking me to the names of "thousands of people" that Clare Daly exposed as being part of corrupt Garda practice, I presume this is on the Dail record these thousands of names :rolleyes:

tayto lover

Mick Wallace shouldn't even be allowed in the Dail.
He is a fraud and a tax cheat as well as being hypocritical.

Mesrine65

tayto lover wrote: »

Mick Wallace shouldn't even be allowed in the Dail.
He is a fraud and a tax cheat as well as being hypocritical.

Should fit in nicely so, birds of a feather & all that

tayto lover

Mesrine65 wrote: »

Should fit in nicely so, birds of a feather & all that

That's just the point of it all.
We need to get rid of all these shysters regardless of party.
Why should these rogues make a living from us?

Little CuChulainn

Muahahaha wrote: »

So the Garda arrest Clare Daly, a TD who has done sterling work in exposing how corrupt the force really is, and then information of her arrest immediately gets into the media. It was so immediate that the Herald were able to print it for their edition. And after all that you expect people to believe that it wasn't the Gardai who leaked this information, all of this despite the fact that reams of copy in the Sunday World and Sindo every single week are based on Garda leak after Garda leak. The Gardai are probably the most leaky institution in this entire State and you expect people to believe that the didn't leak information of Clare Daly's arrest. How naive of you, only a child or a vested interest wouldn't be able to see through that ruse. But of course I know you're going to provide me with evidence to show that the Gardai didn't leak the information, aren't you?

No I won't be trying to prove a negative for you. I doubt you'd believe anything that doesn't suit you.

Muahahaha wrote: »

You'll have no trouble linking me to the names of "thousands of people" that Clare Daly exposed as being part of corrupt Garda practice, I presume this is on the Dail record these thousands of names :rolleyes:

Like I said, you take what suits you and discard the rest. Perhaps you could indicate what exactly you meant with the " sterling work in exposing how corrupt the force really is" was if not the leaking of 1000s of names of people who had points cancelled.

Mesrine65

tayto lover wrote: »

That's just the point of it all.
We need to get rid of all these shysters regardless of party.
Why should these rogues make a living from us?

Agreed 100%

Call Me Jimmy

Ye can't discuss Mick Wallace without losing yer **** altogether. Ye can try but he has long hair (brain overload!) and doesn't wear a suit (aahggghghghhhhh BOOM head exlodes).

Gards are gas as always

gene_slackman

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

By forcing her to make an illegal turn and drink whiskey beforehand so her breath smelled of alcohol?

she was arrested on suspicion of being drunk , she was 60% under

do you honestly believe that people who accidently make illegal driving turns are cuffed and placed in a cell for several hours as a matter of course ?

gene_slackman

Muahahaha wrote: »

And perhaps by then immediately leaking details of the arrest to the media? What a low life thing to do, people are entitled to their good name rather than members of the force who are supposed to protect the community deciding to squeal to journalists within 10 minutes of arresting a TD on suspected charges

What the Gardai did to Clare Daly in leaking her arrest was a new low. Then again if the Ian Bailey case runs its full course we're in for more new lows when the High Court starts playing those secret tapes from Bandon and Schull Garda station. I bet there are a few crime journalists ****ting themselves right now about how much these tapes are going to reveal collusion between the Gardai and the media in selling the idea that it was defintely Ian Bailey who did the murder. The Gardai were supplying journalists with a constant ream of lies and journalists were printing it. Should make for more high days of drama and more new lows for AGS. A few of Ireland's most well known crime journalists could soon be finding themselves with egg all over their face in a very public manner, fun times ahead indeed=)

its widely known that AGS has a long standing policy of leaking info to the media in order to slime - discredit certain people

gene_slackman

tayto lover wrote: »

Mick Wallace shouldn't even be allowed in the Dail.
He is a fraud and a tax cheat as well as being hypocritical.

we have had more than on taoiseach who had a dubious relationship with money

besides , wallace having financial shortcomings doesnt take from the good work he has done in exposing garda malpractice , without him and clare daly ( who,s policies are light years from mine ) , the likes of garda john wilson and garda mc cabe would be in a very lonely place today

i have a brother who is severely autistic and a number of years ago things came to a head , he was making visits to neighbours houses and being a general nuisance , he hurt no one but the guards had to become involved until the HSE got the finger out ( he is not in a care facility and doing great btw ) , the guards used to make regular trips out to the house ( i was residing at my widowed mothers place back then ) but the seargent told my mum the first day that he would only ever travel out in an unmarked car as he knew the matter was sensitive and that she felt bad about the neighbours seeing a squad arrive

never once did he honour his pledge and instead travelled out in a marked car , i spoke to him one day and told him he renagued on the pledge he had made to my mother

a week later i spent four hours in a cell and two in an interview room on a trumped up charge , now their was no follow up or court as i simply picked a spot on the wall and held my tongue for those hours but i learned very clearly that the day you stop tonguing guards rears is the day you invite petty retribution

gene_slackman

tayto lover wrote: »

Mick Wallace shouldn't even be allowed in the Dail.
He is a fraud and a tax cheat as well as being hypocritical.

we have had more than one taoiseach who had a dubious relationship with money

besides , wallace having financial shortcomings doesnt take from the good work he has done in exposing garda malpractice , without him and clare daly ( who,s policies are light years from mine ) , the likes of garda john wilson and garda mc cabe would be in a very lonely place today

i have a brother who is severely autistic and a number of years ago things came to a head , he was making visits to neighbours houses and being a general nuisance , he hurt no one but the guards had to become involved until the HSE got the finger out ( he is now in a care facility and doing great btw ) , the guards used to make regular trips out to the house ( i was residing at my widowed mothers place back then ) but the seargent told my mum the first day that he would only ever travel out in an unmarked car as he knew the matter was sensitive and that she felt bad about the neighbours seeing a squad arrive

never once did he honour his pledge and instead travelled out in a marked car , i spoke to him one day and told him he renagued on the pledge he had made to my mother

a week later i spent four hours in a cell and two in an interview room on a trumped up charge , now their was no follow up or court as i simply picked a spot on the wall and held my tongue for those hours but i learned very clearly that the day you stop tonguing guards rears is the day you invite petty retribution

Little CuChulainn

gene_slackman wrote: »

she was arrested on suspicion of being drunk , she was 60% under

do you honestly believe that people who accidently make illegal driving turns are cuffed and placed in a cell for several hours as a matter of course ?

People who are stopped for traffic offences and have a smell of alcohol on their breath, then fail to give a roadside sample are regularly cuffed and placed in a cell for hours.

bjork

Never mind illegal right turns


How about the murder they allegedly* covered up in Cork?

Perverting the course of Justice

*cough cough

tayto lover

gene_slackman wrote: »

we have had more than one taoiseach who had a dubious relationship with money

besides , wallace having financial shortcomings doesnt take from the good work he has done in exposing garda malpractice , without him and clare daly ( who,s policies are light years from mine ) , the likes of garda john wilson and garda mc cabe would be in a very lonely place today

i have a brother who is severely autistic and a number of years ago things came to a head , he was making visits to neighbours houses and being a general nuisance , he hurt no one but the guards had to become involved until the HSE got the finger out ( he is now in a care facility and doing great btw ) , the guards used to make regular trips out to the house ( i was residing at my widowed mothers place back then ) but the seargent told my mum the first day that he would only ever travel out in an unmarked car as he knew the matter was sensitive and that she felt bad about the neighbours seeing a squad arrive

never once did he honour his pledge and instead travelled out in a marked car , i spoke to him one day and told him he renagued on the pledge he had made to my mother

a week later i spent four hours in a cell and two in an interview room on a trumped up charge , now their was no follow up or court as i simply picked a spot on the wall and held my tongue for those hours but i learned very clearly that the day you stop tonguing guards rears is the day you invite petty retribution

You have my sympathies on that BUT it has nothing to do with my post re Mick Wallace. Mick is a proven tax cheat and fraudster for what he did. He should not qualify to be in the Dail after what he did.
AND I do know he's not the only one too but they should all be turfed out.

Tinkersbell

gene_slackman wrote: »

she was arrested on suspicion of being drunk , she was 60% under

do you honestly believe that people who accidently make illegal driving turns are cuffed and placed in a cell for several hours as a matter of course ?

In these peoples ideal world this would be the norm.

A police state governed by a gang of 4.

Tinkersbell

tayto lover wrote: »

Mick Wallace shouldn't even be allowed in the Dail.
He is a fraud and a tax cheat as well as being hypocritical.

Quick question.
Does Mick Wallace have a tax clearance cert?

tayto lover

Tinkersbell wrote: »

Quick question.
Does Mick Wallace have a tax clearance cert?

Don't know.
He does owe us about 2m though so I doubt it.

Dempsey

tayto lover wrote: »

You have my sympathies on that BUT it has nothing to do with my post re Mick Wallace. Mick is a proven tax cheat and fraudster for what he did. He should not qualify to be in the Dail after what he did.
AND I do know he's not the only one too but they should all be turfed out.

Yet, he's asking the questions that nobody else seems interested in asking or answering other than deflect from the problem with the tax cheat guff. No wonder nothing gets done in this country.

tayto lover

Dempsey wrote: »

Yet, he's asking the questions that nobody else seems interested in asking or answering other than deflect from the problem with the tax cheat guff. No wonder nothing gets done in this country.

No. It's pot, kettle and black stuff in my opinion.
I'd much prefer someone with a clear record asking these questions.

Valetta

Dempsey wrote: »

Yet, he's asking the questions that nobody else seems interested in asking or answering other than deflect from the problem with the tax cheat guff. No wonder nothing gets done in this country.

Tax cheat "guff"?

What's that all about?

Pocoyo

Have drugs and thousands of euro not gone missing from garda stations numerous times?

Drugs

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CE4QFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.breakingnews.ie%2Fireland%2Fcash-seized-in-drugs-raid-disappears-from-garda-station-238318.html&ei=SVKLVPegFcfg7QbMqIGIDA&usg=AFQjCNG8_d5Q-9--GcgoTv1rcy96ci84bQ&sig2=rZ5ptD1je4tOLHpHZYgaUQ&bvm=bv.81828268,d.ZGU

Money

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCgQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thejournal.ie%2Fathy-garda-missing-money-1071636-Sep2013%2F&ei=eFKLVOO2G-GR7Aa77YHQAw&usg=AFQjCNFf0mkNJi67OgdkWDb2EKDOaN9LSA&sig2=eblUq2FCtmLX6uLpBi33Aw&bvm=bv.81828268,d.ZGU

These guys are utterly corrupt and my view wont change until the service is reformed from the ground up.

Bongalongherb

I just picked up 2 dozen of apples in the supermarket earlier, and there was 2 bad apples.

In regards to Gardai involved in the drugs trade, you are always going to get the odd bad apple, it's just a part of life. They will eventually be thrown out just like these 2 bad apples here.

Tinkersbell

tayto lover wrote: »

Don't know.
He does owe us about 2m though so I doubt it.

Well, Wallace Construction does.
AFAIK, he's made an arrangement with revenue and that money is being paid back.
I could be wrong on that though.
Mick Wallace is the least of our problems in this place.
FFail and FG had no problem with Wallace Construction and the likes while the state was raking in the euro's off them.

tayto lover

Pocoyo wrote: »

Have drugs and thousands of euro not gone missing from garda stations numerous times?

Drugs

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CE4QFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.breakingnews.ie%2Fireland%2Fcash-seized-in-drugs-raid-disappears-from-garda-station-238318.html&ei=SVKLVPegFcfg7QbMqIGIDA&usg=AFQjCNG8_d5Q-9--GcgoTv1rcy96ci84bQ&sig2=rZ5ptD1je4tOLHpHZYgaUQ&bvm=bv.81828268,d.ZGU

Money

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCgQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thejournal.ie%2Fathy-garda-missing-money-1071636-Sep2013%2F&ei=eFKLVOO2G-GR7Aa77YHQAw&usg=AFQjCNFf0mkNJi67OgdkWDb2EKDOaN9LSA&sig2=eblUq2FCtmLX6uLpBi33Aw&bvm=bv.81828268,d.ZGU

These guys are utterly corrupt and my view wont change until the service is reformed from the ground up.

Exactly. BUT poacher turned gamekeeper stinks of hypocrisy.

Valetta

Pocoyo wrote: »

These guys are utterly corrupt and my view wont change until the service is reformed from the ground up.

Not only a sweeping generalization, but a sexist one to boot.

Well done.

Pocoyo

Valetta wrote: »

Not only a sweeping generalization, but a sexist one to boot.

Well done.

Some one is trying very hard to be insulted today.

Tinkersbell

Valetta wrote: »

Not only a sweeping generalization, but a sexist one to boot.

Well done.

The term 'guys' is sexist?
WTF???

Dempsey

tayto lover wrote: »

No. It's pot, kettle and black stuff in my opinion.
I'd much prefer someone with a clear record asking these questions.

Try coming back to reality from your idealistic paradise because it aint ever going to happen. You'll comeback with something like we should strive towards it etc etc, real world problems will still need to be dealt with in the mean time. So in the absence of an ideal world I'll ask why, what difference does that actually make?

Sweet fcuk all and you know it

Turtyturd

Seems common enough in my experience for some drugs to go missing during hauls/arrests.

Those arrested aren't going to kick up a fuss and say they were in possession of more than they are being charged with.

DeanAustin

Pocoyo wrote: »

These guys are utterly corrupt and my view wont change until the service is reformed from the ground up.

And, in your view, what does "reform" mean?

Valetta

Tinkersbell wrote: »

Well, Wallace Construction does.
AFAIK, he's made an arrangement with revenue and that money is being paid back.
I could be wrong on that though.
Mick Wallace is the least of our problems in this place.
FFail and FG had no problem with Wallace Construction and the likes while the state was raking in the euro's off them.

What do you mean they had no problem with them?

Why would they?

tayto lover

Dempsey wrote: »

Try coming back to reality from your idealistic paradise because it aint ever going to happen. You'll comeback with something like we should strive towards it etc etc, real world problems will still need to be dealt with in the mean time. So in the absence of an ideal world I'll ask why, what difference does that actually make?

Sweet fcuk all and you know it

So you are happy having tax cheats in the Dail pointing out the failures and wrongs of others.
Would you vote for Bertie if he runs again?

DamagedTrax

tayto lover wrote: »

Exactly. BUT poacher turned gamekeeper stinks of hypocrisy.

maybe if a few more of them turned into hypocrites we might have more of an idea of the BS they're pulling behind our backs every day of the week.

i dont like wallace and i certainly wouldnt give the guy my vote but this is not about him, he's just a conduit for the real story.

Tinkersbell

Valetta wrote: »

What do you mean they had no problem with them?

Why would they?

You do understand what 'limited' means?
As in 'xxxxxx company limited'

Pocoyo

DeanAustin wrote: »

And, in your view, what does "reform" mean?

Open training,A clear out of senior gardai that enabled proven cover ups for other gardai and family member,adequate training in conflict resolution and reporting of crimes etc.

Tinkersbell

tayto lover wrote: »

So you are happy having tax cheats in the Dail pointing out the failures and wrongs of others.
Would you vote for Bertie if he runs again?

Fine Gael, the political party, were found guilty of tax evasion not that long ago.

Muahahaha

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Perhaps you could indicate what exactly you meant with the " sterling work in exposing how corrupt the force really is" was if not the leaking of 1000s of names of people who had points cancelled.

Well I think how corrupt AGS actually is has been pretty well establised at this stage. The general public see them that way, maybe you've got the blinkers on but when thousands of Gardai are doing penalty points favours for friends and family then it can hardly be surprising when the general public view them as corrupt. Not only that but there are several deaths as a result of Gardai wiping points, Wallace and Daly read these cases onto the Dail record where Gardai removed numerous points offences from the same licences and the drivers later went on to kill people on our roads. There are familes grieving for deceased loved ones this Christmas as a direct consequence of Garda cirruption. So tbh I don't really care what you think about Mick Wallace or Clare Daly, I don;t agree with their politics but I have huge respect for the superb job they did in exposing a corrupt Garda force that sees innocent civilians lose their lives, You should be proud of them too, as should all Irish people IMO.

gene_slackman wrote: »

its widely known that AGS has a long standing policy of leaking info to the media in order to slime - discredit certain people

For sure, and certain journalists have made entire careers out of the leaks. I reckon its pretty accurate to say that AGS is the most leaky institution in the entire state, with out their leaks the Sunday World would be about four pages long !

bjork wrote: »

Never mind illegal right turns


How about the murder they allegedly* covered up in Cork?

Perverting the course of Justice

*cough cough

Or the Kerry babies scandal or even the unresolved murder of Father Niall Molloy where it seems the Gardai and the DoJ are doing their very best to protect a very high ranking politican from being accused of his murder. The toxic baton of corruption goes on and on with AGS.