Denis O'Brien Irelands Sinister Fringe.

Pocoyo

A bilionaire known as 'Uncle Denis' to Enda Kenny and Fine Gael. He doesnt even pay tax in ireland hes a tax exile hiding his money money in malta.

Awarded over priced contracts by the government at the tax payer expense even though cheaper contracts were available. (O'Briens GMC SIERRA won meter contract even though siemens were 50 Million euro cheaper)

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/siemens-cheaper-water-meter-offer-snubbed-by-minister-hogan-26845507.html

Proven bribery of FG TD to win mobile phone contract (Moriarty Tribunal)

''In 1995, Denis O'Brien was head of one of six corporations looking for the lucrative second Irish mobile phone operator's licence. When he was chosen to receive the license, there was major controversy as he was suspected of bribing Fine Gael government TD and Minister for Communications Michael Lowry. The license procurement, which ultimately made O'Brien one of the richest men in Ireland, was proven to be corrupt in an investigation by the Moriarty Tribunal, where it was proven that;[32]

O'Brien gave substantial sums of money to Fine Gael in order to make friends with people in the party.
Denis O’Brien, or persons close to him, subsequently sought to give large amounts of money to Michael Lowry.
Michael Lowry, in return, sought to be involved to a greater degree in the licensing process, seeking information about it on a number of occasions and influencing the decision and selection process in Esat's favour.''

Received 300m euro debt write off by the state after bank crash.

http://news-beacon-ireland.info/?p=18825

Owns over 40 Irish news papers including many radio stations.

Independent,Herald,Sunday world,Newstalk106,98fm the list goes on.

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCgQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thejournal.ie%2Firish-media-ownership-public-interest-denis-o-brien-1821594-Dec2014%2F&ei=OyCMVM2TIcyf7gaF6YCwDg&usg=AFQjCNFSiV5zVL-nYO2OVnT_0bbckHAEJg&sig2=3Nc0Wd1ayb-wBrDtsRraYg&bvm=bv.81828268,d.ZGU

The government and journalist groups have found that this man has too much media power and is using it to forward his corrupt ambitions.

This man has been a parasite sucking the blood out of this country while using his media outlets to attack the public of late,Grannies,kids and working people have been called dissidents and sinister by this power crazed man,Its time to boycott his businesses until he goes away. Dont forget Topaz.

Pocoyo

fringe

joe swanson

Thanks for reminding me.


I need some diesel.........

Sheep Lover

I never liked his fringe either, should get a different barber

Kristopherus

Don't fall under that massive chip .........

HeidiHeidi

Thought he lived in Malta?

Birneybau

Tldr. Actually, I did read it and wish I hadn't.

HeidiHeidi

On further reading of the OP.....

You'd hardly begrudge him a €300 debt write off, surely?

Also, are there 40 newspapers in Ireland

Sir Osis of Liver.

Who knows what that evil bastard keeps in his fridge.

One eyed Jack

He plays it cool alright

Stheno

What's the point of ops rant?

MightyMandarin

Meh, he's a smart businessman and I don't begrudge him for what he's done; I'd probably have done the same stuff he's done if I knew it would make me ridiculously rich.

Duckworth_Luas

Reminds me, I must defrust my frindge tonight!

The Moldy Gowl

I worked for topaz for a few months. Nice place to work apart from a few gowls

emo72

Is he some sort of megalomaniac? Wakes up every morning "I need more power and money". Maybe if FG enact slavery for him then we could just get it over with " Yes sah, mastah Denis sah!"

michael999999

He's also bought the Esso Garages around Ireland this week.

Wonder which one of he's political mates hell appoint to the board?

Remmy

If you google image Dennis O'Brien you will notice he is rocking a justin bieber style hair flick. Is this the "sinister fringe" that is often spoken of? Does it influence Dennis in his business decisions? Have I drank too much coffee this morning? Maybe, maybe.

Specialun

Am i the only one who read it as sinister fridge

BoJack Horseman

An application was lodged with Wicklow Co Council recently to hollow out the Great Sugarloaf to become O'Briens mountain fortress.

All of Ireland's water will be contained underneath to be sold from pumps at Topaz stations.

wandatowell

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

An application was lodged with Wicklow Co Council recently to hollow out the Great Sugarloaf to become O'Briens mountain fortress.

All of Ireland's water will be contained underneath to be sold from pumps at Topaz stations.

Not very funny I'm afraid.

RobbingBandit

Let him build a Nuclear Power Plant in Bray and he can become Monty Burns.

BoJack Horseman

wandatowell wrote: »

Not very funny I'm afraid.

No its not..... Its deadly true.

It would be a volcano but for Ireland's lack of them.

Autonomous Cowherd

All ''hilarious' responses. Joking on the way to the gallows.
In 1983 90% of the US media was controlled by 50 corporations. In 2014, it was 6. If anyone thinks that concentrating the power of the media into limited hands will not in some way interfere down the road with their democracy, their culture, their society, then away with them like lambs...

Denis O Brien knows very well that water is the new oil. In the not too distant future water will be traded as a global commodity. It is a scarce and dwindling resource, mainly because of our utter idiocy in allowing it to b polluted (largely by huge corporations who frack into it, spill oil into it, offrun fertiliser and chemicals into it via their minions who purchase it, and so on.

No single person should have such power concentrated into their hands. It is totalitarian corporatism.

But laugh away

The Moldy Gowl

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

No its not..... Its deadly true.

It would be a volcano but for Ireland's lack of them.

Why would he live in a volcano? The gas and hear would kill him

corner of hells

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

No its not..... Its deadly true.

It would be a volcano but for Ireland's lack of them.

I see a James Bond scenario developing.

Fukuyama

The Siemens deal had a lower € amount. But it wasn't cheaper. It would have given them control of maintenance for Irish Water. With Ireland's ****ty piped network that maintenance contract would have been worth much much more over the next 20-50 years. The government (And all future governments) would have been stuck with a foreign company raking it in for 'maintaining' a network that needs replacing.

I think your post is more about cherry picking facts rather than telling the whole truth.

BoJack Horseman

corner of hells wrote: »

I see a James Bond scenario developing.

Its apt.

He is the pantomime villain of Ireland today.

Pocoyo

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

All ''hilarious' responses. Joking on the way to the gallows.
In 1983 90% of the US media was controlled by 50 corporations. In 2014, it was 6. If anyone thinks that concentrating the power of the media into limited hands will not in some way interfere down the road with their democracy, their culture, their society, then away with them like lambs...

Denis O Brien knows very well that water is the new oil. In the not too distant future water will be traded as a global commodity. It is a scarce and dwindling resource, mainly because of our utter idiocy in allowing it to b polluted (largely by huge corporations who frack into it, spill oil into it, offrun fertiliser and chemicals into it via their minions who purchase it, and so on.

No single person should have such power concentrated into their hands. It is totalitarian corporatism.

But laugh away

Jaysus a genuine post.

El Weirdo

Dean0088 wrote: »

The Siemens deal had a lower € amount. But it wasn't cheaper. It would have given them control of maintenance for Irish Water. With Ireland's ****ty piped network that maintenance contract would have been worth much much more over the next 20-50 years. The government (And all future governments) would have been stuck with a foreign company raking it in for 'maintaining' a network that needs replacing.

I think your post is more about cherry picking facts rather than telling the whole truth.

But he did get a €50 million write down on the price of SiteServ from the government.

Fukuyama

El Weirdo wrote: »

But he did get a €50 million write down on the price of SiteServ from the government.

So your entire response to me torpedoing the "but Siemens was cheaper" issue is to ignore it, and aim for another issue which is itself (once again) incorrect.

It wasn't a writedown for him. He bought a company that the government wanted rid of and only did so on the condition that he wouldn't be taking on IBRC (Anglo) debt. You don't get to be as rich as O' Brian by buying other peoples debt - particularly not when you can leverage your position of strength (ie. wealth). He'd of been an idiot to take on IBRC debt that wasn't his.

I've no doubt that O'Brian is pally with the government and other individuals in power. But lets stick to facts instead of tabloid headlines.

Would you, with your business cap on, buy a company with millions of debt when you're in a position to use leverage to force the seller to get rid of the debt prior to the sale going through? Would you fcuk.

I'll begrudge corruption (which DOB may well be), but I won't begrudge business smarts or covet success gained by another.

Pocoyo

Dean0088 wrote: »

So your entire response to me torpedoing the "but Siemens was cheaper" issue is to ignore it, and aim for another issue which is itself (once again) incorrect.

It wasn't a writedown for him. He bought a company that the government wanted rid of and only did so on the condition that he wouldn't be taking on IBRC (Anglo) debt. You don't get to be as rich as O' Brian by buying other peoples debt - particularly not when you can leverage your position of strength (ie. wealth). He'd of been an idiot to take on IBRC debt that wasn't his.

I've no doubt that O'Brian is pally with the government and other individuals in power. But lets stick to facts instead of tabloid headlines.

Would you, with your business cap on, buy a company with millions of debt when you're in a position to use leverage to force the seller to get rid of the debt prior to the sale going through? Would you fcuk.

I'll begrudge corruption (which DOB may well be), but I won't begrudge business smarts or covet success gained by another.

**** your business smarts.

Nonoperational

Ah clear off will ya. Jesus whatever about a genuine protest about another tax, the Denis O Brien angle is laughable. Denis O Brien is the root of all evil is he? What a bunch of simps.

Beaner1

The sinister fringe are the wasters that live on facebook thinking they are unearthing some huge conspiracy linking O'Brien to RTE, government, barriers, irish water etc.

nullzero

corner of hells wrote: »

I see a James Bond scenario developing.

"He welcomes you into his lair, like the nobleman welcomes his guest..."

Fukuyama

Pocoyo wrote: »

**** your business smarts.

What does that have to do with DOB? Do you just have a big notepad file full of links to segway discussions when they're not going your way?

As far as I can tell BOI tried to reduce the value of their debt by flooding the market (an open market). They bought more and kept the value up. What do you want to do? Have a China style debt market or set up 1997 Malaysian-style capital controls, effectively cutting Ireland (an exporter) off from International markets?

Your little video is bull****. Typical fat cat American sure - not a shred of relevence to this discussion. And it's subtitled in a misleading way with a cheesy song. :pac:

AboutaWeekAgo

Beaner1 wrote: »

The sinister fringe are the wasters that live on facebook thinking they are unearthing some huge conspiracy linking O'Brien to RTE, government, barriers, irish water etc.

I think it's pretty common knowledge that he's linked to all of them? Not really what you'd call a conspiracy mate.

Max Carr

His sinister fridge? His sinister fudge? Huh?

Pocoyo

Nonoperational wrote: »

Ah clear off will ya. Jesus whatever about a genuine protest about another tax, the Denis O Brien angle is laughable. Denis O Brien is the root of all evil is he? What a bunch of simps.

The man is routed into the government he won the contract to install the security barriers at the protest.

Genuinely true. LOL The parasite even made more tax payers money out of the dec 10th protest.

chocksaway

I for one welcome our new denis o brien overlord

Beaner1

AboutaWeekAgo wrote: »

I think it's pretty common knowledge that he's linked to all of them? Not really what you'd call a conspiracy mate.

Just a sample that was shared by some jobless waster I know today.

Penis O'Brien is now in the process of buying Esso Ireland. This Government & its cronies need to be stopped fast before this country is completely ruined.

Disgusting!!!!
Denis is one of the elite in the euro zone.
They pull the strings, make deals that benefit the banks, bond holders and elite of Europe.
He needs to be stopped!

The strings that. Makes endd Kenny do as he is told

hynesie08

Pocoyo wrote: »

The man is routed into the government he won the contract to install the security barriers at the protest.

Genuinely true. LOL The parasite even made more tax payers money out of the dec 10th protest.

Who'd he win it from?? How many other companies applied??

And i don't think you know what a parasite is.

Fukuyama

AboutaWeekAgo wrote: »

I think it's pretty common knowledge that he's linked to all of them? Not really what you'd call a conspiracy mate.

He's a billionaire. Show me a billionaire that doesn't have his fingers in many pies.

He's become a scapegoat which is funny because it actually helps FG. Denis can take all the flak he wants - at the end of the day he doesn't answer to the electorate. So I'm sure he's willing to see a couple of Topaz stations boycotted for a day or two if it'll keep the heat off FG/Lab.

Strategically, the anti-gov/conspiracy juts/anti-IW crowd are shooting themselves in the foot by wasting energy on DOB.

Beaner1

Dean0088 wrote: »

He's a billionaire. Show me a billionaire that doesn't have his fingers in many pies.

He's become a scapegoat which is funny because it actually helps FG. Denis can take all the flak he wants - at the end of the day he doesn't answer to the electorate. So I'm sure he's willing to see a couple of Topaz stations boycotted for a day or two if it'll keep the heat off FG/Lab.

Strategically, the anti-gov/conspiracy juts/anti-IW crowd are shooting themselves in the foot by wasting energy on DOB.

Exactly. The guy made a business decision to make money.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/business/obrien-to-buy-siteserv-for-45m-187436.html

He doesn't have some devious political goal to enslave the Irish people. He doesn't give too ****s about controlling protests through the use of eventserv barriers. I doubt he even knows about that level of business operation.

The nutjobs actually believe that he has direct access to to Kenny and is plotting the ruination of the state together or at least forcing his hand to. This is paroanoid delusion. I know three guys that are spouting this stuff non stop on facebook and none have worked in close to ten years but are smoking 24/7 and into the usual fluoride twin towers crap.

AboutaWeekAgo

Beaner1 wrote: »

Just a sample that was shared by some jobless waster I know today.

That post tells me more about you than anything else tbh. If they are "jobless wasters" you seem to spend enough time checking their social media account, sounds like something a waster would do. Do you talk like that to their face as well when you see them and not just anonymously on the internet?

Jawgap

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

......

Denis O Brien knows very well that water is the new oil.

That's grand, I'll start putting Ballygowan in my car then.......
........

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

But laugh away

Ok.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7edeOEuXdMU

lufties

emo72 wrote: »

Is he some sort of megalomaniac? Wakes up every morning "I need more power and money". Maybe if FG enact slavery for him then we could just get it over with " Yes sah, mastah Denis sah!"

You know what? You are probably very accurate with that post.

Fukuyama

Beaner1 wrote: »

Exactly. The guy made a business decision to make money.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/business/obrien-to-buy-siteserv-for-45m-187436.html

He doesn't have some devious political goal to enslave the Irish people. He doesn't give too ****s about controlling protests through the use of eventserv barriers. I doubt he even knows about that level of business operation.

The nutjobs actually believe that he has direct access to to Kenny and is plotting the ruination of the state together or at least forcing his hand to. This is paroanoid delusion. I know three guys that are spouting this stuff non stop on facebook and none have worked in close to ten years but are smoking 24/7 and into the usual fluoride twin towers crap.

Ask them what IBRC was set up for and they won't know. As per usual they'll resort to the usual tabloid arguments or conspiracies.

If DOB is corrupt or if any government officials engage in corruption then I think they should be punished. But as far as I can see he's making some very good strategic moves and is investing in Ireland.

He buys weak companies that are going to grow due to changes in their markets. But the trotskyites among us would almost prefer to see him make charitable donations to these companies out of the goodness of his heart instead.

As the old saying goes, if all the money in the world was distributed equally, it'd be back in the hands of the few because most haven't a clue how to use it.

Beaner1

AboutaWeekAgo wrote: »

That post tells me more about you than anything else tbh. If they are "jobless wasters" you seem to spend enough time checking their social media account, sounds like something a waster would do. Do you talk like that to their face as well when you see them and not just anonymously on the internet?

No, I'm a normal person with tact that doesn't alienate every person for the sake of it. They have some nice qualities but yes, they are wasters and I begrudge tax payers money being used to fund their delusions to clog up my feed.

20Cent

O'Brian was born rich and has a knack for getting government contacts. Not exactly an amzing businessman doing new and original things. It's been handed to him on a plate. Then he fecked off to Malta or whatever so he doesn't even have to pay tax. Throw a few quid at football or charity and the cap doffers are worshipping him. Easy to be successful when your handed contracts and given debt writeoffs.

batnolan

It's sad to see an important topic being discarded as conspiracy loons cannon fodder.

How the man was allowed to buy Today FM was very dubious. He shouldn't be allowed to have so much ownership of the country's media. Plain and simple.

Guy:Incognito

Autonomous Cowherd wrote: »

All ''hilarious' responses. Joking on the way to the gallows.
In 1983 90% of the US media was controlled by 50 corporations. In 2014, it was 6. If anyone thinks that concentrating the power of the media into limited hands will not in some way interfere down the road with their democracy, their culture, their society, then away with them like lambs...

So whats your answer? Force people to keep their businesses (the newspapers) running and not sell them off for profit? State run newspapers?