Denis O'Brien Irelands Sinister Fringe.

jimgoose

Muahahaha wrote: »

Sorry to hear you lost your job because of Denis O'Briens corruption :mad:...

I didn't. I left about a year before they packed up.

steddyeddy

realdanbreen wrote: »

Oh the shame of it! Next thing we will start to attract all sorts of mickey mouse companies like Facebook, Google, Intel, Microsoft etc. We should shoot Dinny and replace him with someone like Mick Wallace or Ming Flanagan.

Are people like you real? I mean I have met relatively few people who don't have problem with criminality. Why is this OK?

johnny osbourne

steddyeddy wrote: »

Are people like you real? I mean I have met relatively few people who don't have problem with criminality. Why is this OK?

don't worry steedyeddy, those ****dogs have their pockets, (i'll admit my own auntie is one of them ), but i won't waste a ~~~~~~~ on them, hopefullt i make the 6-1 news some day on the side of justice for ordinary people

Banjo String

johnny osbourne wrote: »

exactly my point, we all know a dennis, like my **** of an auntie who stole my farm and sold it to the highest bidder

johnny osbourne wrote: »

i have an aunt who is worse than unky D

johnny osbourne wrote: »

don't worry steedyeddy, those ****dogs have their pockets, (i'll admit my own auntie is one of them ), but i won't waste a ~~~~~~~ on them, hopefullt i make the 6-1 news some day on the side of justice for ordinary people

Your very aunty water charges, right?

johnny osbourne

Banjo String wrote: »

Your very aunty water charges, right?

don't worry pal you'll see me on the 6-1 news

Massimo Cassagrande

johnny osbourne wrote: »

don't worry pal you'll see me on the 6-1 news

Doubtful. Even your Aunt could take you. The ERU will have no bother. Sit back, relax and get on with it. You weren't born for cnutdom.

johnny osbourne

Massimo Cassagrande wrote: »

Doubtful. Even your Aunt could take you. The ERU will have no bother. Sit back, relax and get on with it. You weren't born for cnutdom.

well said chum

she has money on her side

so i give up

johnny osbourne

Massimo Cassagrande wrote: »

Doubtful. Even your Aunt could take you. The ERU will have no bother. Sit back, relax and get on with it. You weren't born for cnutdom.

edited to add, no she couldnt take me cos i'll smash her greedy skull in with a shovel

editd to add, (an old shovel that has shovelled 100's of tonnes of sand and gravel)

Banjo String

johnny osbourne wrote: »

edited to add, no she couldnt take me cos i'll smash her greedy skull in with a shovel

editd to add, (an old shovel that has shovelled 100's of tonnes of sand and gravel)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApHj9vOu2eQ

Massimo Cassagrande

johnny osbourne wrote: »

edited to add, no she couldnt take me cos i'll smash her greedy skull in with a shovel

editd to add, (an old shovel that has shovelled 100's of tonnes of sand and gravel)

Ahh schtop. No need for that. Karma will get her.


Hopefully..

Curly Judge

When is the much awaited court case by the failed bidders for ESAT likely to take place.
I see that as the acid test.
Proof in a court of law that corruption took place?
If the failed bidders don't file, it means they lack the proof.

Curly Judge

Curly Judge wrote: »

If the failed bidders don't file, it means they lack the proof.

No it doesn't.

It could mean any number of things. First and foremost that we the State may not be liable for the corruption of FG, Lowry or Denis O'Brien.

steddyeddy

But if corruption did take place what effect will that have on the license?

Happyman42

steddyeddy wrote: »

But if corruption did take place what effect will that have on the licence?

If you or I got something by illegal or corrupt means it would rightly be taken off us.
Can you see any of our morallly upstanding leaders advocating that, in the event of this being proven?

steddyeddy

W

Happyman42 wrote: »

If you or I got something by illegal or corrupt means it would rightly be taken off us.
Can you see any of our morallly upstanding leaders advocating that, in the event of this being proven?

What baffles me is the fact that someone implicated in a tribunal as bring corrupt was awarded another government license. Despite the fact he wasn't the highest bidder. I mean you would have to be thick as pigsh1t to assume no money is changing hands elsewhere.

michael999999

steddyeddy wrote: »

W

What baffles me is the fact that someone implicated in a tribunal as bring corrupt was awarded another government license. Despite the fact he wasn't the highest bidder. I mean you would have to be thick as pigsh1t to assume no money is changing hands elsewhere.

When your fine Gaels sugar daddy, anything is possible.

Happyman42

steddyeddy wrote: »

W

What baffles me is the fact that someone implicated in a tribunal as bring corrupt was awarded another government license. Despite the fact he wasn't the highest bidder. I mean you would have to be thick as pigsh1t to assume no money is changing hands elsewhere.

He and his actions are caught in FG's moral blindspot. Have some sympathy, they will get around to open and tranparent government eventualy, if you re-elect them, get with the programme steddyeddy!

Muahahaha

michael999999 wrote: »

When your fine Gaels sugar daddy, anything is possible.

FG are claiming to have a multi million war chest to fight the next election. I look forward to their transparency on where it came from

davycc

bump for monday morning updates hopefully more foi info comes to light .


fair play catherine murphy with her great work -:cool:

BlatentCheek

Now Denis is getting mentioned in US media coverage of Hillary Clinton and allegedly suspicious correlations between donations to her charity and favourable outcomes from the State Department for those who donated.

Denis specifically pops up due to Digicel receiving a lucrative US awarded contract to provide a mobile-money service in post earthquake Haiti, which is noteworthy as he donated $5 to $10 million to the Clinton foundation since its launch. He certainly has form in this area.

I recall that he successfully sued a journalist for defamation here in Ireland after he dared to suggest that Denis's philanthropic efforts in Haiti may not have been entirely selfless.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/gifts-to-hillary-clintons-family-charity-are-scrutinized-in-wake-of-book-1429754883

LadyAthame

BlatentCheek wrote: »

Now Denis is getting mentioned in US media coverage of Hillary Clinton and allegedly suspicious correlations between donations to her charity and favourable outcomes from the State Department for those who donated.

Denis specifically pops up due to Digicel receiving a lucrative US awarded contract to provide a mobile-money service in post earthquake Haiti, which is noteworthy as he donated $5 to $10 million to the Clinton foundation since its launch. He certainly has form in this area.

I recall that he successfully sued a journalist for defamation here in Ireland after he dared to suggest that Denis's philanthropic efforts in Haiti may not have been entirely selfless.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/gifts-to-hillary-clintons-family-charity-are-scrutinized-in-wake-of-book-1429754883

Irish defamation laws are quite different to American laws and their press is more powerful. It will be interesting.

It really would make our courts look silly.

Lt J.R. Bell

LadyAthame wrote: »

Irish defamation laws are quite different to American laws and their press is more powerful. It will be interesting.

It really would make our courts look silly.

Leaving aside Dinny, considering American Press are allowed to say almost anything without foundation ; Presidential Elections, that comic book National Inquirer.... Maybe it's a good thing we have strong Defamation laws

Lt J.R. Bell

steddyeddy wrote: »

W

What baffles me is the fact that someone implicated in a tribunal as bring corrupt was awarded another government license. Despite the fact he wasn't the highest bidder. I mean you would have to be thick as pigsh1t to assume no money is changing hands elsewhere.

Now now, let us not speak ill of St Dinny.He is being persecuted too much.lol

Muahahaha

BlatentCheek wrote: »

Now Denis is getting mentioned in US media coverage of Hillary Clinton and allegedly suspicious correlations between donations to her charity and favourable outcomes from the State Department for those who donated.

Denis specifically pops up due to Digicel receiving a lucrative US awarded contract to provide a mobile-money service in post earthquake Haiti, which is noteworthy as he donated $5 to $10 million to the Clinton foundation since its launch. He certainly has form in this area.

I recall that he successfully sued a journalist for defamation here in Ireland after he dared to suggest that Denis's philanthropic efforts in Haiti may not have been entirely selfless.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/gifts-to-hillary-clintons-family-charity-are-scrutinized-in-wake-of-book-1429754883

Fun fact no.1: Haiti ranks 161st out of 175 countries on Transparency Internationals 2014 Index of Corruption.
Fun fact no.2: A majority of countries where Denis O'Briens Digicel operates are ranked amongst the most corrupt countries in the world, according to the Index of Corruption 2014

michael999999

Muahahaha wrote: »

Fun fact no.1: Haiti ranks 161st out of 175 countries on Transparency Internationals 2014 Index of Corruption.
Fun fact no.2: A majority of countries where Denis O'Briens Digicel operates are ranked amongst the most corrupt countries in the world, according to the Index of Corruption 2014

And it all started here with himself and he's fine gael buddy's!

Never thought I'd say it, but there looking as bad as Fianna fail for pulling strokes!

tipptom

Muahahaha wrote: »

Fun fact no.1: Haiti ranks 161st out of 175 countries on Transparency Internationals 2014 Index of Corruption.
Fun fact no.2: A majority of countries where Denis O'Briens Digicel operates are ranked amongst the most corrupt countries in the world, according to the Index of Corruption 2014

Fun fact no.3:Dinny bumped Ireland up the rankings of the index of corruption after the tribunal findings all on his own,another fine contribution by Dinny to Ireland.

Banjo String

tipptom wrote: »

Fun fact no.3:Dinny bumped Ireland up the rankings of the index of corruption after the tribunal findings all on his own,another fine contribution by Dinny to Ireland.

Fun fact number 4, after getting a €100m taxpayer funded haircut to acquire siteserv, and a €5m under the counter payment to the shareholders.

Dennis replaced Brian Harvey (the then CEO) with Sean Corkery,.

(Sean Corkery previously of ESAT)

tipptom

Another thing that has come out of this and another indication of the cronyism that is hardly mentioned(mind you we are so used to it now) is Michael Noonans fellow county man in the dept of finance demanding that he be put on the IBRC board twice and how it lead to all this unpleasantness between IBRC and the dept of Finance and the current and ex ministers that blew this back up.


The pigs are starting to devour each other at the trough.

BlaasForRafa

DOB will probably buy out Boards.ie just to get the dissent here quelled

Lt J.R. Bell

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

DOB will probably buy out Boards.ie just to get the dissent here quelled

No point having all that money if you can't buy power

If you were that rich, would you tolerate peasants mouthing off?

michael999999

Noonan being filleted over this o Sean o Rourke now!

realdanbreen

tipptom wrote: »

Fun fact no.3:Dinny bumped Ireland up the rankings of the index of corruption after the tribunal findings all on his own,another fine contribution by Dinny to Ireland.

The 'index of corruption' ? Is that something dreamed up by Paul Murphy or that spoofer Niall Boylan on classic hits?

Muahahaha

realdanbreen wrote: »

The 'index of corruption' ? Is that something dreamed up by Paul Murphy or that spoofer Niall Boylan on classic hits?

No, its run by Transparency International, a well respected NGO in the domain of political corruption.

In other news Ireland is ranked on a scale of open government and transparency as being amongst the worst in the entire EU, ranked alongside Greece and Hungary and just above Russia

http://www.finfacts.ie/irishfinancenews/article_1028768.shtml

The UK government is the most open and transparent in the world, according to a global rankings on the basis of public access to official data. Ireland and Greece at a 31 ranking are among the lowest in Europe with Hungary at 33 - the lowest of all European countries including Russia.

The US and Sweden come second and third in the rankings while France and new Zealand tied for fourth place. Mali, Haiti and Myanmar, also known as Burma, are at the bottom of the table.

You only need to look at this Siteserv debacle and how Noonan, Kenny et al have tried to obfuscate in the Dail to cover it up is part of the reason why Ireland can claim Russia and Greece as a bedfellow when it comes to transparancy and open government.

tipptom

realdanbreen wrote: »

The 'index of corruption' ? Is that something dreamed up by Paul Murphy or that spoofer Niall Boylan on classic hits?

Yea,ask your mate about them and why he was trying to sue such a "mythical non existent" corruption watchdog then.


You wannabe Bill Cullen apprentices need to get out more.

realdanbreen

tipptom wrote: »

Yea,ask your mate about them and why he was trying to sue such a "mythical non existent" corruption watchdog then.


You wannabe Bill Cullen apprentices need to get out more.

Maybe you should say clearly whats on your mind instead of talking gibberish.

tipptom

realdanbreen wrote: »

Maybe you should say clearly whats on your mind instead of talking gibberish.

That's it ,lash out at someone who tried to educate your ignorance and you being a big captain of finance and all,tsk tsk.

Dan_Solo

realdanbreen wrote: »

Maybe you should say clearly whats on your mind instead of talking gibberish.

Funny how absolutely everybody here besides you can understand what he said. Would point to the problem not lying with what he posted TBH.

realdanbreen

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Funny how absolutely everybody here besides you can understand what he said. Would point to the problem not lying with what he posted TBH.

OK then explain to me what he meant about me 'asking my mate' ? and 'wannabe Bill Cullen aprentices'

steddyeddy

All this talk of fixing our economy means nothing if we are viewed as being on par with Greece.

Muahahaha

steddyeddy wrote: »

All this talk of fixing our economy means nothing if we are viewed as being on par with Greece.

With us just being a couple of places above Russia which is a nation virtually run by the mafia. We have our own mafia here only they tend to dress in suits and call themselves by Fianna Fail and Fine Gael, two cheeks of the one arse at the end of the day.

tipptom

realdanbreen wrote: »

Oh the shame of it! Next thing we will start to attract all sorts of mickey mouse companies like Facebook, Google, Intel, Microsoft etc. We should shoot Dinny and replace him with someone like Mick Wallace or Ming Flanagan.

There you go if its Jibberish you are talking about and I assumed he was your mate because you are defending and calling him Dinny,only his "friends" call him Dinny.

Pocoyo

A 'sinister' development today as Denis O'Brien attempts to gag RTE through the High court over a planned program regarding his shady banking affairs

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/denis-obrien-seeking-high-court-injunction-against-rte-in-bid-to-prevent-report-being-broadcast-31185544.html

TallGlass

Pocoyo wrote: »

Denis O'Brien attempting to gag RTE through the High court over a planned program regarding his shady banking affairs

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/denis-obrien-seeking-high-court-injunction-against-rte-in-bid-to-prevent-report-being-broadcast-31185544.html

According to the article on the RTE page he has gagged them. He's one shady bloke, think its time to start going out of my way to avoid Topaz completely. He's like the guy in monopoly who holds all most of the cards on the board after dipping into the bank while no one looks.

JupiterKid

He's slimy alright. Too many fingers in too many pies and how he came to make his money back in the 1990s was corrupt.

michael999999

JupiterKid wrote: »

He's slimy alright. Too many fingers in too many pies and how he came to make his money back in the 1990s was corrupt.

Fine Gael have made him one very rich man!

Muahahaha

Anyone know what it was RTE might have been reporting?

_Kaiser_

Muahahaha wrote: »

Anyone know what it was RTE might have been reporting?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWwOJlOI1nU

Careful.. you know what happens around here when people start speculating on stuff like that!

BlatentCheek

Muahahaha wrote: »

Anyone know what it was RTE might have been reporting?

From reading the article it appears it will reveal the details of his debts to IBRC.

Apparently the RTE report will not make any allegations of wrongdoing (presumably for fear of being sued by Denis they will merely present facts and leave the viewers to reach their own conclusions).

Therefore Denis is arguing that no wrongdoing alleged means no public interest basis for RTE to disclose his personal banking affairs.

If he is successful I believe that it will be a good example of how plutocrats can use our privacy and defamation laws to run rings around the public interest and accountability.

It goes back before the court tomorrow for the judge to decide whether to grant the injunction.

Happyman42

BlatentCheek wrote: »

It goes back before the court tomorrow for the judge to decide whether to grant the injunction.

Are the legal eagles making any bets on his chances of success?

BlatentCheek

Happyman42 wrote: »

Are the legal eagles making any bets on his chances of success?

No idea. I took what I wrote from reading the article in the Indo and some reasonable assumption.