Rugby Sevens

thebaz

Braken wrote: »

Europe is getting tough Portugal 7s recently drew with NZ

yep , but can you imagine if we added the likes of some of our squad , players like Gilroy, Dom Ryan, Matt Healy, McFadden, Hanrahan and even Luke F - they might join up if we qualified , and apart from Luke thats not any national first teamers. Sure there are loads other , but we have a deep squad of natural talent

oh, and now another possible one Isa

bilston

Are Sevens in the Olympics to stay or is there a chance they could be scrubbed off for Tokyo? I think the IOC look at the sports after wach Olympics.

Personally I think Sevens will be massive hit so I would imagine they will still be in place in 2020 which seems a more realisitc timeframe for us to get competitive for.

Davekoolhill

It would be great to have an irish seven's side at the olympics

Thud

any update on the squad?

RedemptionZ

thebaz wrote: »

yep , but can you imagine if we added the likes of some of our squad , players like Gilroy, Dom Ryan, Matt Healy, McFadden, Hanrahan and even Luke F - they might join up if we qualified , and apart from Luke thats not any national first teamers. Sure there are loads other , but we have a deep squad of natural talent

oh, and now another possible one Isa

Sevens isn't the same as 15s though, you can't just transition into it like that. Ireland's biggest problem for sevens is that traditionally we just don't produce enough elite explosive athletes. Could start to change with the increase in immigration to the country but certainly having been to national and international competitions, the standard of athletics relevant to rugby is fairly poor in the country. Not as important in 15s because there is far less space to exploit but in sevens it's all about that burst of speed. So while I have no doubt if you brought in Irish senior players the ball handling skills would be there and the lines run would probably be pretty decent once they got used to it, they still wouldn't be ideal athletes for the sport.

The Lost Sheep

Thud wrote: »

any update on the squad?

Nothing. Wont see one until squad is announced for the Nations Cups or whatever tournaments the side plays before those games

The Lost Sheep

thebaz wrote: »

yep , but can you imagine if we added the likes of some of our squad, players like Gilroy, Dom Ryan, Matt Healy, McFadden, Hanrahan and even Luke F - they might join up if we qualified, and apart from Luke thats not any national first teamers. Sure there are loads other, but we have a deep squad of natural talent

oh, and now another possible one Isa

Isa wont play 7s. Very very much doubt if any especially players like McFadden, Luke Fitz will play 7s. We will primarily be looking at the guys who will specialise in 7s and use lower tier provincial players mainly

bilston wrote: »

Are Sevens in the Olympics to stay or is there a chance they could be scrubbed off for Tokyo? I think the IOC look at the sports after wach Olympics.

Personally I think Sevens will be massive hit so I would imagine they will still be in place in 2020 which seems a more realisitc timeframe for us to get competitive for.

I will guess it'll stay. Don't see them dropping it after one games.

Braken

thebaz wrote: »

yep , but can you imagine if we added the likes of some of our squad , players like Gilroy, Dom Ryan, Matt Healy, McFadden, Hanrahan and even Luke F - they might join up if we qualified , and apart from Luke thats not any national first teamers. Sure there are loads other , but we have a deep squad of natural talent

oh, and now another possible one Isa

Nowadays you need full time contractual players if one has ambitions at the highest level,the US have done this over the last 18 months and it's paying dividends..we are a long way off this

Woshidalong

How good are turkey, Montenegro and Belarus ? Would we be expected to beat them easily enough? Is there a European website for sevens rugby where u can view past results and rankings for lower level countries?

Braken

Woshidalong wrote: »

How good are turkey, Montenegro and Belarus ? Would we be expected to beat them easily enough? Is there a European website for sevens rugby where u can view past results and rankings for lower level countries?

www.Rugbyeurope.eu

The Lost Sheep

Under 19 Squad for this weekend's Rugby Europe Men's U19 Sevens Championship.
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/20472.php#.VTe6xKNOMdU

Ireland Fixtures
Saturday
Ireland v Moldova, v Latvia, Poland v Ireland
Sunday: Playoffs

Kelvin Brown (Shannon/Munster), Josh Daly (Bristol Academy/Exiles), Matthew Gilsenan (UCD/Leinster), Kieran Joyce (Malone/Ulster), Alex Kane (Wimbledon College/Exiles), Hugo Keenan (UCD/Leinster), Terry Kennedy (St Mary's/Leinster), Alex Kilbane (Filton College/Exiles), Dan Lavell (UCD/Leinster), Michael Melia (Terenure College/Leinster), Jack Power (UCD RFC/Leinster), Ciaran Wardle (Worcester Warriors/Exiles)

5 from 12 players picked came through exiles system. The 4 listed and Kieran Joyce(Conor Joyce younger brother)

So 1 Munster, 1 Ulster(Exile), 4 Exiles and 6 Leinster players

under age rugby

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Under 19 Squad for this weekend's Rugby Europe Men's U19 Sevens Championship.
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/20472.php#.VTe6xKNOMdU

Ireland Fixtures
Saturday
Ireland v Moldova, v Latvia, Poland v Ireland
Sunday: Playoffs

Kelvin Brown (Shannon/Munster), Josh Daly (Bristol Academy/Exiles), Matthew Gilsenan (UCD/Leinster), Kieran Joyce (Malone/Ulster), Alex Kane (Wimbledon College/Exiles), Hugo Keenan (UCD/Leinster), Terry Kennedy (St Mary's/Leinster), Alex Kilbane (Filton College/Exiles), Dan Lavell (UCD/Leinster), Michael Melia (Terenure College/Leinster), Jack Power (UCD RFC/Leinster), Ciaran Wardle (Worcester Warriors/Exiles)

5 from 12 players picked came through exiles system. The 4 listed and Kieran Joyce(Conor Joyce younger brother)

So 1 Munster, 1 Ulster(Exile), 4 Exiles and 6 Leinster players

people in 6 year cant get pick for side

bradders90

alex kane is a new name? anyone know anything?

The Lost Sheep

under age rugby wrote: »

people in 6 year cant get pick for side

6th years not picked is fair enough.

bradders90 wrote: »

alex kane is a new name? anyone know anything?

Kane was in Wimbledon College. Played with exiles in interpros past couple of years. Has been in county squads in Surrey over past few seasons

bradders90

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

6th years not picked is fair enough.

Kane was in Wimbledon College. Played with exiles in interpros past couple of years. Has been in county squads in Surrey over past few seasons

So should be a good addition, is this just a one off for him or does this mean he's "being brought over"?

The Lost Sheep

bradders90 wrote: »

So should be a good addition, is this just a one off for him or does this mean he's "being brought over"?

No idea. You have as much an idea as I have

Ireland beat Moldova 40-0, Latvia 60-0 and Poland 43-7 yesterday. They play Belgium in Cup quarter finals today. France have just beaten Russia 38-0. France, Portugal and Romania the best three other sides and cant see there being an upset in the other quarters.

Italy are in Bowl semis. No other 6 nations sides competing in this

The Lost Sheep

Ireland beating Belgium 24-0 at the moment. Some decent tries so far. Game has been held up due to injury to Belgian player who was stretchered off
Irish look real good. Too hard to see who's getting the scores but all players look so comfortable on the ball compared to the opposition

Ireland won 48-0

Suebuts

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Ireland beating Belgium 24-0 at the moment. Some decent tries so far. Game has been held up due to injury to Belgian player who was stretchered off
Irish look real good. Too hard to see who's getting the scores but all players look so comfortable on the ball compared to the opposition

Ireland won 48-0

Any idea which of Irish players scored, the reason being my nephew Kelvin Brown Shannon and Munster is on the Irish side and we are trying to find out how the Ireland team are doing.
Many thanks

The Lost Sheep

Suebuts wrote: »

Any idea which of Irish players scored, the reason being my nephew Kelvin Brown Shannon and Munster is on the Irish side and we are trying to find out how the Ireland team are doing.
Many thanks

No idea. Ireland lost to France in semis. Play Romania in 3/4th playoff

RuPi

Is anybody aware of the make up of the 30 man training squad for the senior Irish 7's? I know it is now a mix of academy and club players and is to be cut to 20 but haven't heard any names mentioned.

bradders90

ireland won the 3rd place playoff vs romania 17-7.
You can watch the moldova match via the links given on @rugby_europe although i cannot seem to find any of the others.

The Lost Sheep

RuPi wrote: »

Is anybody aware of the make up of the 30 man training squad for the senior Irish 7's? I know it is now a mix of academy and club players and is to be cut to 20 but haven't heard any names mentioned.

I know theres a few Lansdowne and Trinity players involved. Cant remember names off top of my head though.....

bradders90 wrote: »

ireland won the 3rd place playoff vs romania 17-7.
You can watch the moldova match via the links given on @rugby_europe although i cannot seem to find any of the others.

Theyre up on the rugby Europe dailymotion page. They have 3/4 hours of footage from the weekend.

ArmaniJeanss

England finished 3rd in Glasgow to remain in 4th overall, but stretched their lead over Australia to a massive 16 points with just London remaining. Would need a miracle now to deny England getting fourth (Australia to win with England finishing 11th or worse).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014%E2%80%9315_Sevens_World_Series#Table

So effectively a done deal which removes England, Scotland and Wales from the Euro qualifier for Rio. It'll mean a weak enough qualifier with France the definite favourite (but they aren't any great shakes) and not a whole lot of depth after that (Portugal/Spain the best of the rest). So a squeak for Ireland here if they get their act together.

The Lost Sheep

Draw for this years World Club 7s in Thomond is tomorrow

12 teams competing including Buenos Aires and Fijian side Daveta to compete..

http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/20847

CatFromHue

i was wondering if that was going to be run again this year

The Lost Sheep

CatFromHue wrote: »

i was wondering if that was going to be run again this year

It had to. Contracted to run in Thomond for at least 3/4 years

CatFromHue

wow that's along contract to sign up to for such a relatively risky competition.

Braken

CatFromHue wrote: »

wow that's along contract to sign up to for such a relatively risky competition.

I thought it was entertaining last year,the weather went against it and not enough support from the other provinces,it has the making of a great tournament and a great family day out,the Fijians and carlin Isles were standout
Now that we are back at the 7s table lets hope it's gets the support it deserves

The Lost Sheep

CatFromHue wrote: »

wow that's along contract to sign up to for such a relatively risky competition.

It is but lot of things went against it last year. promo could have been better. Werent Limerick hurling in an all Ireland semi the weekend of it last year????

Braken wrote: »

I thought it was entertaining last year,the weather went against it and not enough support from the other provinces,it has the making of a great tournament and a great family day out,the Fijians and carlin Isles were standout
Now that we are back at the 7s table lets hope it's gets the support it deserves

There wasn't going to be that much support from other provinces with them not playing....
Hopefully circumstances help with GAA clashes etc

wp_rathead

The Munster v Connacht friendly is now on Friday 21st evening at 7:45 in Thomond - was originally to be played in Sportsground I believe.. It'll be played after Day 1 of the 7s
Should help with attendance to the tournament

The Lost Sheep

Connemara 7s was last weekend
There is a few more 7s tournaments across country before start of 15s season but what can be done to get more kids/teens playing 7s?
It may be a while before we are competing in the world series. Next year we will be competing in Division A of the European competition but what can we do to increase numbers playing 7s?
Should there be part of season structure set out for 7s play only? Should there be open competitions for all players in specific age grades with perhaps some limitations per squad of 10-12 in terms of guys who are in the representative set ups?
Should we have more county/provincial/national age grade competitions?

bradders90

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Connemara 7s was last weekend
There is a few more 7s tournaments across country before start of 15s season but what can be done to get more kids/teens playing 7s?
It may be a while before we are competing in the world series. Next year we will be competing in Division A of the European competition but what can we do to increase numbers playing 7s?
Should there be part of season structure set out for 7s play only? Should there be open competitions for all players in specific age grades with perhaps some limitations per squad of 10-12 in terms of guys who are in the representative set ups?
Should we have more county/provincial/national age grade competitions?

Just wanted to point out that in England/Wales/Scotland 15's is played by schools (on a "circuit" - ie the schools choose who they play) from September until December. With a National Cup (Champions Cup) running during this period. Then some schools carry on playing 15's in January/early February, while others focus on getting ready for the sevens season which is late feb/March/early april.
Most 7s tournaments are held by schools with suitable grounds to do so all over the country. It all culminates in the major national(and international) Rosslyn Park Sevens to end the season.
To me this would be a really good format to adopt in Ireland if possible, though then again i have English bias.

The Lost Sheep

bradders90 wrote: »

Just wanted to point out that in England/Wales/Scotland 15's is played by schools (on a "circuit" - ie the schools choose who they play) from September until December. With a National Cup (Champions Cup) running during this period. Then some schools carry on playing 15's in January/early February, while others focus on getting ready for the sevens season which is late feb/March/early april.
Most 7s tournaments are held by schools with suitable grounds to do so all over the country. It all culminates in the major national(and international) Rosslyn Park Sevens to end the season.
To me this would be a really good format to adopt in Ireland if possible, though then again i have English bias.

Perhaps but we should be getting more players who play majority of season in a school also playing with clubs at end of season....
It would be a good format if we had more schools playing but we don't. We should look to play 7s with a mix of school and club teams playing against each other and also look at integrating players from the top schools who are ineligible for the main youths clubs competitions into the clubs especially at the older age groups
For some schools the games are played on a "circuit" for the full year and for others its half the year. Some schools still don't compete in big schools cups...

The Lost Sheep

RobbieRuns wrote: »

The fact that we are entering a good sevens side in competition and getting in the national press, being successful etc surely that's only going to bring the game to the fore, lots of schools and clubs will want to run competitions, especially smaller schools. The IRFU need to get involved at grassroots and get some competitions going, building on the exposure and success of the lads. A chance to play in the Olympics is there in the future.

Do you really see 7s getting this press seeing more competitions being run as from my involvement in coaching, playing etc and having played 7s at age grade it wont see too many competitions being ran

If we are to have 7s competitions we should be having open competitions open to clubs and schools alike, county/regional/provincial and national competitions

The Lost Sheep

Next seasons line up for Division A of European Championships has been confirmed

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLpCF4OWoAEyENq.jpg

The Lost Sheep

So World Club 7s are in Twickenham next weekend
Pools for that event are
Pool 1
Enisei, New York, Harlequins, Western Province
Pool 2
Gloucester, Blue Bulls, Cardiff Blues, Buenos Aires
Pool 3
Kuban Krasnodar, Auckland, NSW Waratahs, Seattle

The 7s in Thomond is the weekend after next

The event that will determine who qualifies for next seasons womens world 7s series is in UCD the weekend after next
http://www.irishrugby.ie/ireland/34990.php#.VcjyDU3bLcs

And womens 7s club series has kicked off....
http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/35176.php#.Vcjx903bLcs

The Lost Sheep

Some of the squads for next weekend in Thomond are beginning to be named
Games start 11am both days
Anyone going?

thomond2006

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Some of the squads for next weekend in Thomond are beginning to be named
Games start 11am both days
Anyone going?

2 for 1 tickets are available for Friday if anyone wants to go.

I'm a bit disappointed the other provinces haven't marketed this on their websites given they are involved as well. Only Connacht mention it on their website and they have a senior friendly with Munster anyway. I don't think many would travel but still...

The Lost Sheep

Sonny Bill, Liam Messam named in New Zealand squad for next seasons World Series season
http://www.the42.ie/sonny-bill-williams-rio-7s-olympics-new-zealand-2280457-Aug2015/

duckysauce

Brendan Macken was class for wasps 7s tonight scored some unreal trys