Frank Lampard

zAbbo

He played a blinder in that video with Kieran Dyer and Rio.

Sullied his reputation with that, and with the shenanigans of his transfer to US/City as well.

Guy:Incognito

galwaylad14 wrote: »

Did I see somewhere on here that scholes only has 45 assists in the premiership? Considering he played about 400 games .

500

Billy86

Gerrard was more talented than Lampard no doubt, but Lampard achieved more out of his career and in terms of reaching his potential. I still prefer Scholes (hardly surprising for a Man Utd fan) but it's closer than some give credit for. Lampard also did far more than just score goals, if I recall nearly every year he was right near the top for passing and ground covered in the league, as well as tackles, interceptions, etc at Chelsea. Absolute role model in terms of squeezing every little last possible bit of potential out of himself.

Billy86

Topper Harley wrote: »

I've always rated Scholes as better than Lampard and Gerrard. In fact, I always thought a better comparison for Scholes was Xavi and possibly even Alonso.

But I'd have to point out that he was playing alongside Roy Keane for the significant part of his career which obviously did no harm.

I think if I was to choose between Lampard or Gerard for my team (or any particular team) it would depend on the other players. In a stronger team I'd pick Lampard, in a weaker team that maybe needed to be carried somewhat, I'd have Gerrard.

Funny enough playing beside Keane for so long actually did do some "harm" - not in terms of his achievements or anything at all like that, but that he played second fiddle in a sense, and a lot of people didn't think he could run a midfield on his own until he did so.

That said, I do agree about Xavi/Alonso being better comparisons for the role Scholes played later in his career and it pains me to say it but... Xavi was better at it . Simply the best player ever at what he does/did, and by a reasonable distance.

Paully D

Fantastic footballer.

SherlockWatson

Chrissybhoy wrote: »

Where did I post that it does ? But while your at It I presume your on about long balls out wide to start attacks ? Yes Gerrard likes that Scholes was fond of it too off either foot.

The difference between Scholes and Gerrard is Scholes knew WHEN to go long, Gerrard is just an unintelligent donkey who can ping the ball to the corner, I've no idea where you get the impression he can dictate a game.

thebaz

sure the greatest English player, along with Scholes in run of the mill EPL games, but to be considered great , you do it in the big games , never really remember altering the really big games , particularly internationally, the way say Bryan Robson, Roy Keane , Perlo , Platini could

Talib Fiasco

Gerrard=Lampard>Scholes for me

Blue giant

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Gerrard=Lampard>Scholes for me

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Donnielighto

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Gerrard=Lampard>Scholes for me

No surprise there.

Talib Fiasco

Sorry for having an opinion lads. Jesus Christ like

PhlegmyMoses

Where is this Scholes only assisted 45 goals thing coming from? I have a feeling that this is incorrect.

As for Lampard, great player. His direct comparison is Gerrard, not Scholes. Hard to choose between the two.

764dak

I don't think there was any official record of the number of assists before the 2002-03 season.

Chrissybhoy

SherlockWatson wrote: »

The difference between Scholes and Gerrard is Scholes knew WHEN to go long, Gerrard is just an unintelligent donkey who can ping the ball to the corner, I've no idea where you get the impression he can dictate a game.

So all Gerrards passes are long diags. Look at some of Owen Suarez and Torres goals from their time they were at Liverpool that will change your opinion. As for unintelligent a player that has and can play so many positions unintelligent is wrong

Nalz

SherlockWatson wrote: »

Pinging pointless diagonal 60 yards doesn't mean you can dictate the tempo of a game.

Hollywood pass
Daisy cutting shots
kiss the camera

=> World class

CSF

Took a long think, but I'd probably just about go for Lampard myself. The man was incredibly effective. Scholes is definitely the sort of player the average football fan prefers though, because of his style, and his mannerisms. Gerrard a bit behind both of them but still a fantastic player in his day.

Gits_bone

thebaz wrote: »

sure the greatest English player, along with Scholes in run of the mill EPL games, but to be considered great , you do it in the big games , never really remember altering the really big games , particularly internationally, the way say Bryan Robson, Roy Keane , Perlo , Platini could

He would have in 2010 only for lack of goal line technology.