David De Gea - Best in the World?

DeGea is definitely going to be one of the best if not the best!

Donnielighto

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

In fairness how can commenting on Xavi, Messi, Iniesta and Neymar be considered "hype"?

They are world class.

4 words.

Saying there are unreal players does not take 5000 words.

SherlockWatson

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

In fairness how can commenting on Xavi, Messi, Iniesta and Neymar be considered "hype"?

Because more than those players play for Barca, recent example being his hype about Marc Bartra.

Talib Fiasco

SherlockWatson wrote: »

When Hart has a game as good as De Gea let us know, kthnx.

Game against Roma last week is just a recent example, urwelkum

Andersonisgod

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Ah heyor, you're surely self-aware enough to know that your posts are the definition of hype?

I'm entirely unaware of that.

Talib Fiasco

Donnielighto wrote: »

They are world class.

4 words.

Saying there are unreal players does not take 5000 words.

Now who's exaggerating

syngindub

if this sort of form continues, surely RM will come knocking ??

Andersonisgod

Donnielighto wrote: »

You can not be one for criticising hype, the essay size replies that read like they were written by a hack using the thesaurus function on every word he could, throw a few adjectives at me sure.

Now that I think about it, a thesaurus would save me a lot of time.

SantryRed

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

The thing is Hart is expected to be world class every game. Sure he makes mistakes every now and again, as does De Gea and nearly every keeper in the world. But when Hart plays great it isn't blown out of proportion because he's a keeper for a world class team...it's appreciated but it's expected. Maybe the De Gea/United situation is different.

Just incase this post is inferring it, Joe Hart is not world class.

PhlegmyMoses

Andersonisgod wrote: »

I'm entirely unaware of that.

You aren't unaware of it but I guess people lie on the internet all the time.

eagle eye

Donnielighto wrote: »

They are world class.

4 words.

Saying there are unreal players does not take 5000 words.

Waxing lyrical is an art though and its enjoyable to read for me anyways.

SherlockWatson

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Now who's exaggerating

Hyperbole isn't meant to be taken literally.

Talib Fiasco

syngindub wrote: »

if this sort of form continues, surely RM will come knocking ??

Yeah for Lloris

Talib Fiasco

SherlockWatson wrote: »

Hyperbole isn't meant to be taken literally.

Same with everything else on the internet really?

PhlegmyMoses

syngindub wrote: »

if this sort of form continues, surely RM will come knocking ??

That's the big worry, or maybe even Barca. I think United will get one more contract out him though, especially if they get CL this year.

Andersonisgod

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

You aren't unaware of it but I guess people lie on the internet all the time.

This thread being a prime example?

Talib Fiasco

SantryRed wrote: »

Just incase this post is inferring it, Joe Hart is not world class.

Then neither is De Gea. Personally I'd consider both world class

Andersonisgod

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

That's the big worry, or maybe even Barca. I think United will get one more contract out him though, especially if they get CL this year.

No. In Claudio Bravo and Anders Ter Stegen, Barcelona are doing fine.

SherlockWatson

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Same with everything else on the internet really?

Jesus this is painful, goodbye

Liam O

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Then neither is De Gea. Personally I'd consider both world class

You're right, a great 3 seasons for De Gea puts him on the same level as Hart who's had an admittedly stellar 6 months.

Donnielighto

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Now who's exaggerating

There is a difference between for effect and habit.

SantryRed

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Then neither is De Gea. Personally I'd consider both world class

De Gea is a better goalkeeper than Joe Hart. Maybe it's your City bias I don't know, but they are not similar. De Gea is up there with Neuer and Courtois.

Billy86

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

The thing is Hart is expected to be world class every game. Sure he makes mistakes every now and again, as does De Gea and nearly every keeper in the world. But when Hart plays great it isn't blown out of proportion because he's a keeper for a world class team...it's appreciated but it's expected. Maybe the De Gea/United situation is different.

He has calmed down on them the last year or so, but Hart was making more mistakes, more horrendous mistakes, than DDG was in his first year for a long while before it was getting much of any attention. It took DDG over two years of fantastic play for people to finally begin to shut up about his poor start, yet with Joe Hart it was swept away within a few short months like a bad memory.

#Englandsno1

PhlegmyMoses

Andersonisgod wrote: »

No. In Claudio Bravo and Anders Ter Stegen, Barcelona are doing fine.

Unless they sign DDG. Then he'll become the goal keeping phenom with cat-like reflexes reminiscent of a prime Lev Yashin, the supreme ruler of North Korea and the crusher of Real Madrid fans' hopes and dreams.

Amidoinitright?

Talib Fiasco

SantryRed wrote: »

De Gea is a better goalkeeper than Joe Hart. Maybe it's your City bias I don't know, but they are not similar. De Gea is up there with Neuer and Courtois.

At the moment, perhaps he is but I'd have Hart at City any day of the week before De Gea. It's only Courtois and Neuer and perhaps Cech I'd be happy to see replace him.

Donnielighto

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Then neither is De Gea. Personally I'd consider both world class

Would you consider them the same level? Hart just feels so close to a mistake the whole time.

Andersonisgod

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Unless they sign DDG. Then he'll become the goal keeping phenom with cat-like reflexes reminiscent of a prime Lev Yashin, the supreme ruler of North Korea and the crusher of Real Madrid fans' hopes and dreams.

Amidoinitright?

No, in Claudio Bravo they have one of the top 5 goalkeepers on the planet and someone who form I consider better than De Gea's and in Ter Stegen they have an outstanding young keeper whose footwork could, as suggested on commentary during the game against PSG, revolutionize goalkeeping, the young German is a prodigy.

Talib Fiasco

Donnielighto wrote: »

Would you consider them the same level? Hart just feels so close to a mistake the whole time.

Around the same level but I still prefer Hart 100%. Sure he can be dodgy but he can make saves that nobody else in the world can at times. De Gea is on a nice run of form now but he's prone to errors from time to time too.

Billy86

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Around the same level but I still prefer Hart 100%. Sure he can be dodgy but he can make saves that nobody else in the world can at times. De Gea is on a nice run of form now but he's prone to errors from time to time too.

I don't think there is a type of save in the world that DDG can't make - while I said I prefer Courtouis and Neuer by a bit as keepers, there isn't a better shot stopper in the world than DDG.

Guy:Incognito

syngindub wrote: »

if this sort of form continues, surely RM will come knocking ??

Form or not, I'd be surprised if they didn't. They're going to need a long term successor to Casillas soon.

PhlegmyMoses

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Around the same level but I still prefer Hart 100%. Sure he can be dodgy but he can make saves that nobody else in the world can at times. De Gea is on a nice run of form now but he's prone to errors from time to time too.

I genuinely can't remember De Gea's last obvious error.

Hart's a good keeper and all, I just don't think he's been on DDG's level for the last 2 years.

Will I Amnt

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Around the same level but I still prefer Hart 100%. Sure he can be dodgy but he can make saves that nobody else in the world can at times. De Gea is on a nice run of form now but he's prone to errors from time to time too.

Laughable stuff, Hart ain't got a patch on De Gea.

GavRedKing

Hart got a lot of media protection as hes English.

De gea is better and younger, IMO and id know who id prefer.

Hart talks a lot and manages the back line but hes made some poor judgements, hes not a bad keeper, far from it but hes not up with de gea.

Liam O

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

I genuinely can't remember De Gea's last obvious error.

Hart's a good keeper and all, I just don't think he's been on DDG's level for the last 2 years.

De Gea wasn't great at the start of the season tbh but the whole team could be criticised of that tbh.

eagle eye

SantryRed wrote: »

De Gea is a better goalkeeper than Joe Hart. Maybe it's your City bias I don't know, but they are not similar. De Gea is up there with Neuer and Courtois.

Lets talk Premier league level first and forget the rest of the world.

Frasier Forster is every bit as good as David De Gea.

Talib Fiasco

Well it's clear there is bias involved from both parties so I'll leave it at that. Whatever De Gea has still left in more goals this season than Hart

Donnielighto

GavRedKing wrote: »

Hart got a lot of media protection as hes English.

De gea is better and younger, IMO and id know who id prefer.

Hart talks a lot and manages the back line but hes made some poor judgements, hes not a bad keeper, far from it but hes not up with de gea.

From a communication standpoint Hart is one of the best top level keepers around.

Will I Amnt

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Whatever De Gea has still left in more goals this season than Hart

Awwwh man, you're having an absolute shocker here.

Donnielighto

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Well it's clear there is bias involved from both parties so I'll leave it at that. Whatever De Gea has still left in more goals this season than Hart

That's true but is has to be mitigated with wingers playing in the fb slots and a new defensive system for a lot of matches

Saipanne

The /thread function seems to be broken, lads. Get on to site development.

Billy86

eagle eye wrote: »

Lets talk Premier league level first and forget the rest of the world.

Frasier Forster is every bit as good as David De Gea.

No, just no.

Didn't he get nutsed for both goals on Monday? If that were DDG we would be hearing about that until May.

Giggsy11

eagle eye wrote: »

Lets talk Premier league level first and forget the rest of the world.

Frasier Forster is every bit as good as David De Gea.

Looks like Saints fans are not convinced yet.

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?52569-Fraser-Forster#.VI3CQtKUd0Y

SantryRed

eagle eye wrote: »

Lets talk Premier league level first and forget the rest of the world.

Frasier Forster is every bit as good as David De Gea.

No he isn't.

I've nothing else to say other than that.

Billy86

Donnielighto wrote: »

That's true but is has to be mitigated with wingers playing in the fb slots and a new defensive system for a lot of matches

Nah quit making excuses, Paddy McNair, Antonio Valencia and Ashley Young are every bit as good as Kompany, Mangala and Zabaleta... and you know it!

Talib Fiasco

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Awwwh man, you're having an absolute shocker here.

Donnielighto wrote: »

That's true but is has to be mitigated with wingers playing in the fb slots and a new defensive system for a lot of matches

But if De Gea is really the best shot stopper in the league and the world then he should be saving every shot right thus preventing those goals? One major criticism I have of De Gea is he doesn't punch the ball near enough.

Will I Amnt

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

But if De Gea is really the best shot stopper in the league and the world then he should be saving every shot right thus preventing those goals? One major criticism I have of De Gea is he doesn't punch the ball near enough.

Just when you think it can't get any worse :eek:

Giggsy11

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

But if De Gea is really the best shot stopper in the league and the world then he should be saving every shot right thus preventing those goals? One major criticism I have of De Gea is he doesn't punch the ball near enough.

That logic.. :eek:

Gk's who punch balls shouldn't be in the modern game!
#saynotoracism&punchingballs

Donnielighto

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

But if De Gea is really the best shot stopper in the league and the world then he should be saving every shot right thus preventing those goals? One major criticism I have of De Gea is he doesn't punch the ball near enough.

So the best shot stopper in the world cant concede a goal... hmmm

Is this the hype (actually exaggeration btw) that you pulled me up on?

Of course if you are the kind of guy who is being honest then fair play, but that would mean that you dont see defenders as contributing to the defensive effort. Am I missing a scenario where you arent being disingenuous?

CSF

Yo David, I’m really happy for you, Imma let you finish but Neuer is one of the best keepers of all time