Rip-Off cover songs being played in retailers

deadybai

Has anyone else notice this?A lot of retailers speakers are playing popular songs that sound like the original but if you listen closely they're actually just a cover by a different band.

Its clearly more evident around Christmas when you would be doing a bit of shopping. I remember hearing it about 2 years ago in heatons for the first time but now its almost in every shop.

What the hell is with this? Why can't they play the original song?

Custardpi

You need a licence to play music in your shop. Perhaps the cover versions get you a discount over playing originals.

biko

Maybe they're playing the Xfactor and Idol versions?

TwoShedsJackson

deadybai wrote: »

What the hell is with this? Why can't they play the original song?

They have to pay royalties if they use the original and Dunnes et al are way too cheap for that.

JeffK88

I work in one the retailers who play cover songs with some originals in there too. So yes they are covers some are bad some ok and some downright terrible. Its down to paying license fee for music and rumours i've heard that there is some kind of spot checks by those who issue licences for such music.

anncoates

deadybai wrote: »

Why can't they play the original song?

They'd have to pay IMRO a large amount of money.

srsly78

Actually they have to pay IMRO anyway. It's the PPI they save money with I think.

http://www.ppimusic.ie/

stanley1

just been in supervalue,somebody murdering john lennons war is over, horrendous racket.

bjork

We kiss jouw a very craxmaz
an a snappy blue year

anncoates

stanley1 wrote: »

just been in supervalue,somebody murdering john lennons war is over, horrendous racket.

Think that's just Yoko on backing "vocals".

bjork

stanley1 wrote: »

just been in supervalue,somebody murdering john lennons war is over, horrendous racket.

John Lemmon - Door is open :pac:

AnonoBoy

bjork wrote: »

John Lemmon - Door is open :pac:

Door is open. It's a-jar
Door is open. It's a-jar

Valetta

deadybai wrote: »

Has anyone else notice this?A lot of retailers speakers are playing popular songs that sound like the original but if you listen closely they're actually just a cover by a different band.

Its clearly more evident around Christmas when you would be doing a bit of shopping. I remember hearing it about 2 years ago in heatons for the first time but now its almost in every shop.

What the hell is with this? Why can't they play the original song?

Why would you do that?

It's a shop FFS.

deadybai

Valetta wrote: »

Why would you do that?

It's a shop FFS.

Being dragged around for hours looking at the same stuff over and over again. The music is about the only thing I pay attention too.

Proxy

Two companies in Ireland provide this, the most prevalent being Almotech (http://www.almotech.com/), the other being Mood Media whom I think have pulled out of Ireland. I've dealt with both, basically they provide streaming music/radio/store ads to your store, along with equipment etc. You pay the IMRO/PPI and they provide what you want. If you want the originals, you have to pay more. If you're happy to have the knock-off music, you don't have to pay the exorbitant PPI/IMRO fees.

pragmatic1

It's the worst. What's played in shops these days makes me want to leave them as soon as possible. No music at all would be preferable.

Dravokivich

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

They have to pay royalties if they use the original and Dunnes et al are way too cheap for that.

There are royalties on Publishing Rights (which refers to the song itself) as well, not just based off use of the recording.

Gyalist

Proxy wrote: »

Two companies in Ireland provide this, the most prevalent being Almotech (http://www.almotech.com/), the other being Mood Media whom I think have pulled out of Ireland. I've dealt with both, basically they provide streaming music/radio/store ads to your store, along with equipment etc. You pay the IMRO/PPI and they provide what you want. If you want the originals, you have to pay more. If you're happy to have the knock-off music, you don't have to pay the exorbitant PPI/IMRO fees.

Mood Media has been replaced by OceanBlue Audio.

This same topic was discussed a while back in this thread which will probably answer most questions on the subject.

nelly17

Its kinda off topic but Nova are in deep water with IMRO for not having coughed up when they sent the bag men round

thunderdog

pragmatic1 wrote: »

It's the worst. What's played in shops these days makes me want to leave them as soon as possible. No music at all would be preferable.

Head to Lidl

WoollyRedHat

They should play instrumental/ jazz or ambient music, covers and everything else be damned.

MadsL

Hell for anyone playing the Little Drummer Boy game this year.

BlaasForRafa

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

They should play instrumental/ jazz or ambient music, covers and everything else be damned.

They should go back to using the classics of stock music like Alan Hawkshaw, Keith Mansfield et al

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENV5CqXo_aM

stanley1

get me a sharp knife and please be quick.

Earthhorse

Yeah, I was in Tesco there and good God the cover versions were awful. Not even okay; they were murdering the songs. Like someone gave their son or daughter a mike and a Casio keyboard and said "Here, give it your best shot".

bodhrandude

Its kinda like the soundtrack on the Love/Hate dvds, RTE can't afford to pay the rights to original artists, so they have cover versions of all the originals on the DVD sets.

vicwatson

The "muisc" in Mr Price has to be the worst on the planet !

purplepanda

The rights to use the original recording & performance, particularly for successful music, is usually very expensive when companies want to use that material for any type of broadcast, film TV or other medias.

By doing a cover version you just have to pay the original songwriters / composers royalties which is much cheaper, even given the costs of getting new musicians & studio time to copy the style of the original recording.

I think many people find it annoying to hear a recording they really like is not the original performance, but a mere imitation. It would be more interesting to hear a different interpretation than a copy IMO.

eeguy

Nothing worse than working in a shop with that horrible music, then hearing it again in a different shop. Happens all the time.

FionnK86

The Londis in Western Ind. Estate has THE WORST music ever...as far as I know its original material but i would prefer covers, because it's the worst crap going

DeJa VooDoo

deadybai wrote: »

Has anyone else notice this?A lot of retailers speakers are playing popular songs that sound like the original but if you listen closely they're actually just a cover by a different band.

Its clearly more evident around Christmas when you would be doing a bit of shopping. I remember hearing it about 2 years ago in heatons for the first time but now its almost in every shop.

What the hell is with this? Why can't they play the original song?

Was in B&Q the other day and it's the same.
Not bad covers to be fair.

MadsL

stanley1 wrote: »

get me a sharp knife and please be quick.

Apt username is apt.