Christmas jumpers and young guys acting a bit gay

Birneybau

johndaman66 wrote: »

I think now Its only fair I am allowed start a thread and highlight my observations just as much as the next person is entitled to as long as my posts are not breaching the charter, rules and guidelines. Hey, I dont wish to change any of these people wearing Christmas jumpers or guys hugging each other. Just highlighting how things have changed since I was a guy their age really....even though I'm only 10 years older....that was the intent of my post.

I think it would be considered fair enough to start a thread over in the accommodation forum on house prices even though I had no intention of buying or selling a house?.....

Your observations and mentality are outdated and just stupid. Guess feeling left out does that to a person. Have a pint speed drinking competition with your mates.

AdFundum

I can't imagine any self respecting gay being seen outdoors in a poorly fitting cheap ass acrylic pull over. Those folk you saw were straight. Unless the world has gone 360 and the gays are getting straighter. Oh the horror! Hey gays, less marching, more mincing, ya hear me!

johndaman66

johndaman66 wrote: »

I think now Its only fair I am allowed start a thread and highlight my observations just as much as the next person is entitled to as long as my posts are not breaching the charter, rules and guidelines. Hey, I dont wish to change any of these people wearing Christmas jumpers or guys hugging each other. Just highlighting how things have changed since I was a guy their age really....even though I'm only 10 years older....that was the intent of my post.

I think it would be considered fair enough to start a thread over in the accommodation forum on house prices even though I had no intention of buying or selling a house?.....

Course it's ok to start a thread about your observations!

Using terms like "a bit gay" or "high level of gayness" just makes your posts scream of ignorance.

porsche boy

Oh my good god above, OP please read back your original post out loud. "I'm not a homophobe but......." goes in the same catagory as "I'm not a racist, but..." & "don't you know who I am?". Anyone to use such sentences needs to revaluate themselves.

On another point I'm heterosexual, married with 2 kids and I used to hug some of my male friends when I was younger, still do actually. It's just being comfortable with who you are and being able to understand and show feelings toward friends.

johndaman66

Deleted User wrote: »

You seem to know a lot about the subject.

No expert mind and for the record I'm straight as a dye, not that theres anything wrong with being gay either if thats your sexual orientation...

The Moldy Gowl

johndaman66 wrote: »

That just a pointless response really to be fair....

You're generalisation of things that make people gay is also pointless.

AboutaWeekAgo

OP, have you heard this song by any chance?

The Moldy Gowl

johndaman66 wrote: »

No expert mind and for the record I'm straight as a dye, not that theres anything wrong with being gay either if thats your sexual orientation...

What if the dye is a rainbow pattern?

braddun

how do you mean acting gay


do you meam like rock hudson

Omackeral

johndaman66 wrote: »

If you are a man and;

wear really tight clothes, scarfs and Christmas jumpers;

Buff bodybuilders. Cold. It's Christmas.

are a hairdresser or interior design;

They'll be working with and on 99% ladies, great strategy.

talk with a voice considerably more high pitched than most fellas;

Tell this to Mike Tyson.

drive a Mazda MX5 or new model mini or Fiat 500;

Better than being a bus w@nker.

hug your male friends every few minutes and are very touchy feely with them;

Bros before hoes.

are really into your soft furnishings;

Is this a shot at pillows? I sleep with three. I must be super gay.

big into programs like xfactor, american idol, or that ballet dancing one;

Shows with loads of hot chicks on them including Cheryl Cole Tweedy Fernandez Versini.

well up on the chick flicks.

I like to flick chicks.

All of the above in any combination would among other clues often indicate a high level of gayness to me...

EVERYBODY DANCE NOW!!!

Molester Stallone II

alwaysadub wrote: »

What's a gay profession then?

Professional homosexual?

braddun

hhow do you mean acting gay

do you mean like rock Hudson he acted straight

nelly17

I think the problem outlined is best described as 'getting old' happened to me years ago now I couldn't give a monkeys scrotum what way others behave, each their own

Joe prim

alwaysadub wrote: »

What's a gay profession then?

Th'oul cagefighting is quare gay altogether, ( but very manly all the same)

DoYouEvenLift

Op sounds like a middle aged man who went to an 18s+ club for the first time in decades. Why were you so fixated on all the young boys when you were in a club lol

Birneybau

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

Op sounds like a middle aged man who went to an 18s+ club for the first time in decades. Why were you so fixated on all the young boys when you were in a club lol

Going by the username, he may be 48. Dirty old man.

NoMore MrNiceGuy

johndaman66 wrote: »

I think now Its only fair I am allowed start a thread and highlight my observations just as much as the next person is entitled to as long as my posts are not breaching the charter, rules and guidelines. Hey, I dont wish to change any of these people wearing Christmas jumpers or guys hugging each other. Just highlighting how things have changed since I was a guy their age really....even though I'm only 10 years older....that was the intent of my post.

I think it would be considered fair enough to start a thread over in the accommodation forum on house prices even though I had no intention of buying or selling a house?.....

You are entitled to this thread. It's not really homophobic even if it is it is a bit Christmas jumperphobic.

You are not really entitled to believe you are an "each to his own" kinda guy, though because such a guy wouldn't start threads about this kinda thing.
That's all people are saying.

My feeling is I hadn't noticed the increased hugginess of young males here on the northside, don't care about jumpers but down with Apple hipsters. Each to their own.

johndaman66

Beaner1 wrote: »

Hugging a man isnt gay. Penetrating his anus with your erect pens is gay.

Where do you draw the line though, is walking down the street with your arm around another man not gay? I actually don't consider hugging another man as gay (please read my initial post). What I do consider a tad gay is hugging your male friends every few minutes and being very touchy feely with them.

For the record as I'm sure a lot of ye seem to be missing my point. I have nothing whatsoever against gay people. But I'm sure we will all agree there are certain aspects of a guy and his interests/ demeanor that would suggest he is gay. Hell, I'm sure other gay guys use these clues in order to seek out a potential partner

Omackeral

johndaman66 wrote: »

For the record as I'm sure a lot of ye seem to be missing my point. I have nothing whatsoever against gay people. But I'm sure we will all agree there are certain aspects of a guy and his interests/ demeanor that would suggest he is gay. Hell, I'm sure other gay guys use these clues in order to seek out a potential partner

It's called a Gaydar, and yours is set to 'ON' big boy.

NoMore MrNiceGuy

johndaman66 wrote: »

Where do you draw the line though, is walking down the street with your arm around another man not gay? I actually don't consider hugging another man as gay (please read my initial post). What I do consider a tad gay is hugging your male friends every few minutes and being very touchy feely with them.

For the record as I'm sure a lot of ye seem to be missing my point. I have nothing whatsoever against gay people. But I'm sure we will all agree there are certain aspects of a guy and his interests/ demeanor that would suggest he is gay. Hell, I'm sure other gay guys use these clues in order to seek out a potential partner

But how could this work when everybody is acting gay and wearing bright jumpers?

I bet the gays watch Top Gear and do a lot of woodworking. And skinning rabbits they hunt with shotguns.

Each to their own.

johndaman66

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

You're generalisation of things that make people gay is also pointless.

Would you not try to post something a bit more constructive please?

AboutaWeekAgo

Omackeral wrote: »

It's called a Gaydar, and yours is set to 'ON' big boy.

I think they replaced the old fashioned gaydar with the high tech grindr :pac:

The Moldy Gowl

johndaman66 wrote: »

Would you not try to post something a bit more constructive please?

I could try, but that might be considered gay. Using certain words might be too gay for you

johndaman66

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

Op sounds like a middle aged man who went to an 18s+ club for the first time in decades. Why were you so fixated on all the young boys when you were in a club lol

Birneybau wrote: »

Going by the username, he may be 48. Dirty old man.

Well of the mark the both of ye's.

anyway....

johndaman66

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

I could try, but that might be considered gay.

And that was a great attempt, clap clap:rolleyes:

AboutaWeekAgo

What is Chritmas for anyway if you can't, as a stright male, meet up with your other straight male friends and repeatedly hug them?

DoYouEvenLift

johndaman66 wrote: »

Well of the mark the both of ye's.

anyway....

Answer my question, it was genuine. People watching in pubs and clubs is totally fine but it's a step too far when the person doing it is so interested that they return home and post about their observations on an online forum and even writing a checklist of what's considered gay lol. I'm not even hating, the thread's brought the laughs and been entertaining even if unintentionally.

The Moldy Gowl

johndaman66 wrote: »

And that was a great attempt, clap clap:rolleyes:

Thanks. So is your idea of being gay, then thinking it's wrong to be becuase it makes you different and you lose your masculinity becuase you hug a guy.

Masculinity isn't defined that way by manly bum chum. You are not more masculine than any of them.

SpaceTime

Dear god! people wearing silly jumpers and having fun! What's the world coming to?!

Back in the day, it was grey jumpers, no women in pubs, homophobia and scowls at all times.
You also had to be home before 11 or the parish priest would chase you down the road with a big stick.

darkpagandeath

That is how "men" greet each other in Sparta: high-fives for the women and open-mouthed tongue kisses for the men.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Is there a cultural aspect to it I wonder, you know the stiff upper lip men should repress their emotions attitude that you see here and in the UK.

Whereas on the continent to a large extent men have no qualms or hangups about embracing friends.

johndaman66

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

Answer my question, it was genuine. People watching in pubs and clubs is totally fine but it's a step too far when the person doing it is so interested that they return home and post about their observations on an online forum and even writing a checklist of what's considered gay lol. I'm not even hating, the thread's brought the laughs and been entertaining even if unintentionally.

I didn't believe it was a question so much as a point you were making DoYouEvenLift but anyway to answer. I wasn't in a club, rather a later bar and very fair to say I was not fixiated on any young boys. Sometimes its not easy to avoid whats in your eyeline whatever way you seem to look....did you ever notice that before?

Also what I wrote was not a checklist for being gay or anything like that. I was merely providing a no conclusive or complete list of what I'd think are good indicators that seem to me to often suggest a guy is highly likely gay....seen as somebody asked.

Annasopra

johndaman66 wrote: »

If you are a man and;

wear really tight clothes, scarfs and Christmas jumpers;

Nope

johndaman66 wrote: »

are a hairdresser or interior design;

Nope

johndaman66 wrote: »

are a hairdresser or interior design;

Nope

johndaman66 wrote: »

talk with a voice considerably more high pitched than most fellas;

Nope

johndaman66 wrote: »

drive a Mazda MX5 or new model mini or Fiat 500;

Nope

johndaman66 wrote: »

hug your male friends every few minutes and are very touchy feely with them;

Nope

johndaman66 wrote: »

are really into your soft furnishings;

Nope

johndaman66 wrote: »

big into programs like xfactor, american idol, or that ballet dancing one;

Nope

johndaman66 wrote: »

well up on the chick flicks.

Nope

johndaman66 wrote: »

All of the above in any combination would among other clues often indicate a high level of gayness to me...

According to your checklists I have non existent levels of gayness... I think I'll double check what kinda porn I was watching last night...

Nah...computer says no

The Moldy Gowl

johndaman66 wrote: »

I didn't believe it was a question so much as a point you were making DoYouEvenLift but anyway to answer. I wasn't in a club, rather a later bar and very fair to say I was not fixiated on any young boys. Sometimes its not easy to avoid whats in your eyeline whatever way you seem to look....did you ever notice that before?

Also what I wrote was not a checklist for being gay or anything like that. I was merely providing a no conclusive or complete list of what I'd think are good indicators that seem to me to often suggest a guy is highly likely gay....seen as somebody asked.

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Donkey Oaty

johndaman66 wrote: »

Also what I wrote was not a checklist for being gay or anything like that.

I'm glad you've said that, because it's important to realise that not all gay people are like that.

In fact, some can appear normal, as this undercover surveillance footage shows.

GalwayGuitar

Deleted User wrote: »

Course it's ok to start a thread about your observations!

Using terms like "a bit gay" or "high level of gayness" just makes your posts scream of ignorance.

You can't talk about ignorance, you made a joke about op getting raped!

johndaman66

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Thanks. So is your idea of being gay, then thinking it's wrong to be becuase it makes you different

No, lots of people are gay so it doesn't make them different. Its your sexual orientation and nothing wrong with it in my book. Lots of gay guys are quite obviously different to straight guys and many are similar apart from sexual orientation. When did I ever say being gay was wrong by the way?

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

and you lose your masculinity becuase you hug a guy.

I never said your sexual orientation determines your masculinity either...

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Masculinity isn't defined that way by manly bum chum. You are not more masculine than any of them.

Did I say I was more masculine? and I have no idea what a manly bum chum is....

GalwayGuitar

johndaman66 wrote: »

If you are a man and;

wear really tight clothes, scarfs and Christmas jumpers;
are a hairdresser or interior design;
talk with a voice considerably more high pitched than most fellas;
drive a Mazda MX5 or new model mini or Fiat 500;
hug your male friends every few minutes and are very touchy feely with them;
are really into your soft furnishings;
big into programs like xfactor, american idol, or that ballet dancing one;
well up on the chick flicks.

All of the above in any combination would among other clues often indicate a high level of gayness to me...

Agree with that except wearing scarfs. They keep you warm and can look good, as long as its not one of the stupid dish cloth types or a big girly woolen thing.

RobbingBandit

Johndaman69 more like eh OP. :pac::P:P:P

Annasopra

GalwayGuitar wrote: »

Agree with that except wearing scarfs. They keep you warm and can look good, as long as its not one of the stupid dish cloth types or a big girly woolen thing.

What? Only heterosexuals wear scarves? who knew?

The Moldy Gowl

Ok so what's your actual point?

That your masculinity is superior to there's, that you hold the hegemonic masculinity?

But then maybe you feel what you view as being 'a man' is being questioned by a different generation?

The Moldy Gowl

Actually John my friend.

I was out last night with 2 people, one of whom I hadn't met before. Out mutual friend went off to be a girl and change tampons or something like that.

When she came back she asked us how we got on. We made up gay jokes about touching our willys off eachother.

Are we gay?

AdFundum

Speaking as a bit (read total) of a Nelly, johndaman66 is getting a wicked raw deal here. I understand some of your needs to set the record straight (apologies) regarding stereotypes but do you really find stereotypes so threatening. Are all the disgruntled gays here "straight acting lads lads who like nights in as well as nights out" and all that malarky? Give me a swishy gay content in his skin anyday. Pick your battles lads!

GalwayGuitar

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

What? Only heterosexuals wear scarves? who knew?

You wat? I'm disagreeing with op on that one. I think scarves (most of them) look good on a man.

GalwayGuitar

GalwayGuitar wrote: »

You can't talk about ignorance, you made a joke about op getting raped!

No, no I didn't.

The Moldy Gowl

What joke are ye referring to?

GalwayGuitar

Deleted User wrote: »

No, no I didn't.

Yes you did. You implied he was so drunk that a man named George took advantage of him.

The Moldy Gowl

GalwayGuitar wrote: »

Yes you did. You implied he was so drunk that a man named George took advantage of him.

Hahahahahaha Jesus.

Annasopra

GalwayGuitar wrote: »

Yes you did. You implied he was so drunk that a man named George took advantage of him.

Seriously. That wasn't a rape joke :rolleyes:

Call Me Jimmy

johndaman66 wrote: »

Ok, this is not particularly intended to be a rant so apologies if it comes across as such (probably will), just a few observations more than anything.

Is it just me or has the whole Christmas jumper thing just exploded this year to the point where they are begining to wreck my head a bit. I think at one stage a few years back when only the odd person was wearing them they were kinda cool to wear in a sense one may look like an eidget wearing them but didn't give a toss...I suppose in a roundabout sort of way you were sending out the message I'm so confident in myself and my appearance I don't really give a toss if this Christmas jumper makes me look a small bit goofy.... Now so many eidgets are wearing them that they have lost their appeal. I was in a pub last night and it got to the stage where it was refreshing to see someone who was not wearing one of them. Maybe its all just me though and I'm not particularly getting into the festive spirit due to the slave driver of a company I work for insisting I work right through Christmas:(

Also, something else that really struck me last night. Many young guys, in particular in the 17 to 23 age group seem to have a very gay manner about them now. Don't get me wrong I've nothing against gay people or in anyway homophobic but I think we'll nearly all agree that its quite often very obvious and easy to spot, traditionally that is. The thing is now it would seem more and more apparently straight young guys have a very gay demeanor about them. Last night at one stage the amount of young guys hugging other guys was a bit over the top. I seen many of them had girlfriends so that would lead me to believe that many of them if not all of them were not actually gay.

Now I'm not implying that there is anything wrong with a guy hugging another guy or it means they are gay per se. Being straight I very much might hug a good friend myself if he was going out to Oz for example and I knew I would not see him for some time...say to him take care of yourself out there man or something like that. However, guys hugging their friends, being guys also every 10 minutes would to me imply gay....especially if they were wearing christmas jumpers, scarfs and one direction style haircuts as so many of them were...

Highlighted your problem. Your other complaints are illusory, it's just your mind trying to give out about working so hard in a roundabout way.