15-year-old dead and four others injured in Dublin crash

Charlie19

Jawgap wrote: »

Out of interest, what has that got to do with anything?

Eh, they're children.

kippy

While there are more than likely wider societal issues here as well as many thanks that others werent killed the lack of compassion here and/or willlingness to see a bigger picture is a sad reflection on society.
Im from a rural area and would have seen stuff like this go on with lads in their mid teens when I was growing up. No scumbags as such, just lads messing around. Getting a hold of a car going out for a spin showing off etc.....
And yes, you could put this down to parents not being on top of their kids as well as other things. Or you could put it down to the folley of youth. Sometimes you get lucky and learn a lot from your mistakes. Sometimes you only get one chance.
There are plenty people throughout the genepool who do daft things.
I feel for all the families involved here. I doubt very much they'll ever get over it.

nc19

Natural selection, simple

/thread

Jawgap

Charlie19 wrote: »

Eh, they're children.

So do you think 'children' aged 14 to 16 don't know the difference between right and wrong?

Plus, cars aren't toys, so if they are children what are doing in them, and driving them?

Sauve

A child is dead. More are injured. Families and friends have woken up this morning to their worst nightmares. I hope for their sakes that none of them read this thread.
The 'jokes' and insensitive comments stop here. Please think before you post.

efb

nc19 wrote: »

Do you know the best way to avoid dieing in a car on a joyride????

Dont joyride.........

Have you bubble wrap?

The punishment doesn't fit the time

supersean1999

The attention seeking comments in this thread are a bit sick to be fair. I wonder how many of ye would be brave enough to repeat your comments to some of the family of the injured people. Not many id say.

_Brian

When I was younger I was a proper nutcase in a car, very little was off limits, and have had up to 14 passengers in my dad's car back in the day, I on occasion drank a fill and drove too.. Always insured but still a shocking lunatic. Looking back there was only pot luck between me being here and being another statistic or bringing this tragedy to someone elses house..
Some posters seem to revel in the death of this young lad, I think that's a bit distasteful. Young lads have very, very little appreciation for danger and repercussions of their actions, some of us get away with it to learn better, and some don't, but its often a very fine line between the two.

Many men can look back at their teenage selves and see a young lad who took shocking risks with their own lives and the lives of those around them, many just like to forget and rather get up on their high horse behind a keyboard.

There are no winners here, just a dead kid and a very sad house for Christmas and forever.

Galwayguy35

Thankfully no innocent person was mowed down, driving around Dublin with no license or insurance where there are people everywhere with the potientel to be knocked down is criminal behaviour.

This goes way beyond "making a mistake".

My name is URL

nc19 wrote: »

Natural selection, simple

/thread

That's not how natural selection works

AboutaWeekAgo

To be honest I think it would be best if this thread got locked. Seems to be a lot of people reveling in the whole situation and posting unnecessary comments. Wouldn't be the nicest thing for any family members or friends to stumble accross.

kippy

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Thankfully no innocent person was mowed down, driving around Dublin with no license or insurance where there are people everywhere with the potientel to be knocked down is criminal behaviour.

This goes way beyond "making a mistake".

Well it is criminal behaviour and cannot and should not be condoned. However it doesnt deserve the treatment it has gotten here either.

degrassinoel

shruikan2553 wrote: »

Theres mistakes and theres illegal life threatening mistakes. We all made mistakes but rarely does someone do something as dangerous to others.

First off, was the car stolen or did it belong to the chap's parents?

Secondly, teenagers do dumb stuff regularly, i did, you did (not asking you how old ye are, I'm assuming), we all did. I've done things in clumsiness that could have turned fatal in a heartbeat only for dumb luck.

You're making an assumption that the chap went out and robbed a car to joyride in, I'm making the assumption that he did what lots of kids do, and borrowed the family car for a quick rally around the block before the parents got home.

Does it even matter? The guy is dead now and his family and friends are left to pick up to the pieces for Christmas.

That's the real tragedy as i see it. Not the stupidity of the act, the result of the act.

I'm glad that ye are all so perfect and will raise perfect children. It must feel great. Well done.

Fcuk me there are some sick posts in this thread. I'd rather have empathy than perfect little princes and princesses.

fiacha

What would you do (seriously) to the remaining kids?

Make the survivors attend the dead lads autopsy.
Publish their names in papers and on road safety billboards.
Everyone in the car gets the same custodial sentence.

The message to people should be that by participating in drunk / drug driving or joying, they are ALL responsible for any damages or deaths caused.

Little CuChulainn

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm glad that ye are all so perfect and will raise perfect children. It must feel great. Well done.

Fcuk me there are some sick posts in this thread. I'd rather have empathy than perfect little princes and princesses.

I reserve my empathy for the victims of joyriders.

Jawgap

degrassinoel wrote: »

First off, was the car stolen or did it belong to the chap's parents?

Secondly, teenagers do dumb stuff regularly, i did, you did (not asking you how old ye are, I'm assuming), we all did. I've done things in clumsiness that could have turned fatal in a heartbeat only for dumb luck.

You're making an assumption that the chap went out and robbed a car to joyride in, I'm making the assumption that he did what lots of kids do, and borrowed the family car for a quick rally around the block before the parents got home.

Does it even matter? The guy is dead now and his family and friends are left to pick up to the pieces for Christmas.

That's the real tragedy as i see it. Not the stupidity of the act, the result of the act.

Ownership is irrelevant (it was not stolen) - the question is whether they had permission to take the car, which they couldn't have because unless they changed the law on Friday, none of them were of an age that would have permitted them to be legally driving that vehicle.

That means, they were uninsured.

The simple fact is that a completely avoidable tragedy has occurred and it is difficult to be sympathetic towards someone who blatantly went out and gave two fingers to important road safety provisions that are there to protect everyone - including people from themselves.

He didn't deserve to die, and it's terrible for friends and family - and, as I said earlier, the emergency and medical services who were forced to deal with the consequences of their selfishness.

GalwayGuitar

Darwin award candidate?

Little CuChulainn

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

I reserve my empathy for the victims of joyriders.

Their families are the victims ffs

eviltwin

I find it hard to feel sorry for people who take a car out for a joyride knowing the risks. Even at 15 you know the risks. But 15 is young, many a teenage tearaway grew up to see the error of their ways and change the way they lived. Who knows what this young man might have been? Maybe he would have been a career criminal and waster but maybe he might have copped on and made something of himself. Now he'll forever be known as that kid who killed himself during a joyride. I have a lot of sympathy for the owner of the car who didn't deserve this and for the family of the deceased. Hopefully the survivors will get a wake up call and choose a different path and at least something good might come from this.

EazyD

The comments suggesting this is "normal teenage antics" are genuinely hard to believe. I was far from perfect at that age but never ever would I contemplate doing something so stupid.

I was young and naive but nowhere near stupid enough to endanger other people. If it was your family at the receiving end of the collision I'm sure your sympathy would wear thin fairly sharp.

MagicMarker

Absolutely no one deserves to die over this, and it's a tragic end. But at least they didn't kill an innocent.

Sauve

Right. That's enough insensitive nastiness. Some posters have made some valid and measured points here, but a few have ruined it for everyone else.
How low can you go tbh...