When Calving Starting

Reggie.

whelan2 wrote: »

wouldnt be happy with that, never much white on our aa calves from fr cows

Often seen small bit of white at the very bottom of the belly. Rarely on the head like that

Reggie.

whelan2 wrote: »

2 more since, last one was dead, cow had no springing and did the same last year, not due for another week or so, bought in cow, she will be for the chop this year

Enough hardship in calving without inviting more in

Timmaay

Had 3 or 4 AAs worst than that last yr, from KYA! First one off a totally white screwy HO so just thought it was her fault, but got a 1/2 black and white one off a good 80% black cow then! AAs weren't selling well last yr anyways, in fairness they looked like a very square Br Fr so didn't make much less than what they would have if they were all black.

welton john

An rdu second calver calved today.295 days,had to come out the side. A monster of a calf and all from an ai easy calving angus.

whelan2

welton john wrote: »

An rdu second calver calved today.295 days,had to come out the side. A monster of a calf and all from an ai easy calving angus.

had vet back to my cow that had a section yesterday. She got fluids and some more painkillers, she's not really eating, just calved another and waiting on 1 more to calve before i go to bed

Reggie.

whelan2 wrote: »

had vet back to my cow that had a section yesterday. She got fluids and some more painkillers, she's not really eating, just calved another and waiting on 1 more to calve before i go to bed

Thought you said no more for a few days :P

whelan2

Reggie. wrote: »

Thought you said no more for a few days :P

shows you what i know

welton john

whelan2 wrote: »

had vet back to my cow that had a section yesterday. She got fluids and some more painkillers, she's not really eating, just calved another and waiting on 1 more to calve before i go to bed

With a bit a luck she might come good for you
would love to go to bed now but have a heifer sick.last one for two weeks then.

wiggy123

who the ai angus bull welton john

welton john

wiggy123 wrote: »

who the ai angus bull welton john

RGZ . Wouldn't blame the bull tbh as we've never had a prob with him.Just a freak calf

wiggy123

ah ok...

tanko

Does anyone try this crack of feeding cattle only at night so that they calve during the day. If so, does it actually work?

Mad4simmental

Dosnt work all the time but we often feed at 5/6pm and it pushes most calving to 6/7am, almost no calving from 9am bar the odd heifer.

tanko

Mad4simmental wrote: »

Dosnt work all the time but we often feed at 5/6pm and it pushes most calving to 6/7am, almost no calving from 9am bar the odd heifer.

Do you just feed them once a day?

Mad4simmental

tanko wrote: »

Do you just feed them once a day?

Yes, generally they are out of grub for an hour or so before feeding so they are hungry but not starving. They have a huge feed and stretch out god the night.

RightTurnClyde

tanko wrote: »

Does anyone try this crack of feeding cattle only at night so that they calve during the day. If so, does it actually work?

Cows locked away from silage onto straw bed at 9am and gate opened again at 7pm everyday. Most of them are calving 6-10am and 5-7pm with a few during the day. Only a couple have calved during the dead of night. Working great here so far.

frazzledhome

Fairly flat out here and will be for next 2 wks.

24 calved in the last 24 hrs with 6 while in bed/couch last night.

84% of the heifers are calved at this stage 10 more soon and 3 wks till the last of them, may sell these.

3 tankers at slurry yesterday, de horned 40 calves and dosed all weanlings. Half these are on grass full time and were going through yard being moved so dosed. The ones in the shed only went in on 9/1/15 so were dosed. Was going to weigh but time was against us as had young lads party to boot

Oh and a cow with ecoli, vetcalled all well this am

All under control here this am and heading to lads rugby till lunch

Have to love spring and the brighter mornings. 40 birthday to attend tonight, may have a different view tomorrow am:(

Reggie.

frazzledhome wrote: »

Fairly flat out here and will be for next 2 wks.

24 calved in the last 24 hrs with 6 while in bed/couch last night.

84% of the heifers are calved at this stage 10 more soon and 3 wks till the last of them, may sell these.

3 tankers at slurry yesterday, de horned 40 calves and dosed all weanlings. Half these are on grass full time and were going through yard being moved so dosed. The ones in the shed only went in on 9/1/15 so were dosed. Was going to weigh but time was against us as had young lads party to boot

Oh and a cow with ecoli, vetcalled all well this am

All under control here this am and heading to lads rugby till lunch

Have to love spring and the brighter mornings. 40 birthday to attend tonight, may have a different view tomorrow am:(

Jaysus I'm just tired reading that

frazzledhome

Reggie. wrote: »

Jaysus I'm just tired reading that

Coffee and nicotine and I'm not alone, great help

Reggie.

frazzledhome wrote: »

Coffee and nicotine and I'm not alone, great help

Ah that student with ya

frazzledhome

Reggie. wrote: »

Ah that student with ya

No student and not for a while again. Messed around too much last year

CallofGuti

Six down this week, 30 to go before May. All happy and healthy thank god.

john mayo 10

First cow calfed this morning at 3. Time was just up. She had a bull calf by PIO. She is a black SIX cow herself. All was well amd off to bed a 4 bells. Checked on her at 8 and feck me there were 2 calfs in the pen with her. Second calf was only born bout an hour. Another bull. Never seen them to calf twins so far apart before. All is well. Thank god.

stanflt

And so the fun starts-

Cow Porter

stanflt wrote: »

And so the fun starts-

Fixed time ai? What programme did you use

stanflt

Cow Porter wrote: »

Fixed time ai? What programme did you use

Gnrh- cidr - day 7 pg- day 10 gnrh- day 11 ai

High bike

First one Fri ngt smashing sim heifer,then Sat morning 2nd one another sim heifer and 2hrs later her twin sister ,2 nice calves but cow doesn't want to know bout the 2nd one.Any ideas on how best to get her to take the 2nd calf?

Kovu

High bike wrote: »

First one Fri ngt smashing sim heifer,then Sat morning 2nd one another sim heifer and 2hrs later her twin sister ,2 nice calves but cow doesn't want to know bout the 2nd one.Any ideas on how best to get her to take the 2nd calf?

It'll take hard graft! I'm guessing they're inside?
Split the cow from both calves and only feed her when it's time to let them in to her to suck. Try and let the one she doesn't like suckle behind the other one so she can't see it.

If she's wild, time for the crush and even more hard graft!

You could also try leaving a coat/cover on the calf she's accepted and turning it inside out and putting it on other calf at sucking time so it smells like the other.

If all fails, suck calves are a good trade!

Mad4simmental

Cover the second calf in salt a good bit of it. She will lick it off and start to form a bond. Had a few heifers this year that wasn't too keen to take to the calf and this worked for us.

whelan2

heifer had aa twin calves both dead, she had feck all springing , a few weeks early in dry cow shed, hate twins, thats the 3rd set so far this year

mahoney_j

stanflt wrote: »

And so the fun starts-

Crash helmet,body armour and an ass load of patience required for next 3 weeks so stan!!

Nettleman

whelan2 wrote: »

heifer had aa twin calves both dead, she had feck all springing , a few weeks early in dry cow shed, hate twins, thats the 3rd set so far this year

Sorry to hear that Whelan2-how early was she? For myself I was wondering would there be any advantage to getting the vet out to handle mine which scanned with twins back in August? Shes starting to expand at sides-but no springing yet

whelan2

Nettleman wrote: »

Sorry to hear that Whelan2-how early was she? For myself I was wondering would there be any advantage to getting the vet out to handle mine which scanned with twins back in August? Shes starting to expand at sides-but no springing yet

about 3 weeks early, i was looking at her yesterday and saying her belly was very big

Timmaay

mahoney_j wrote: »

Crash helmet,body armour and an ass load of patience required for next 3 weeks so stan!!

Had the 1st real stubborn fcuker in the parlour yday, every possible way of avoiding being milked she has found it, kicking like crazy, climbing up on the mangers , turning around, squeezing inside other cows. Can't wait to get outa this parlour also, will hopefully solve some of these problems!

whelan2

Timmaay wrote: »

Had the 1st real stubborn fcuker in the parlour yday, every possible way of avoiding being milked she has found it, kicking like crazy, climbing up on the mangers , turning around, squeezing inside other cows. Can't wait to get outa this parlour also, will hopefully solve some of these problems!

accidentally let one fecker out with the jump lead clamp on her tail, she still had it on at the next milking and hasnt kicked since

Reggie.

whelan2 wrote: »

heifer had aa twin calves both dead, she had feck all springing , a few weeks early in dry cow shed, hate twins, thats the 3rd set so far this year

It can only get better whelan

Greengrass1

Came home to be created by vet in yard.
First time I ever remember vet having to calve a cow for us.
Calf had head back and no way could dad straigjen it.
Calf was dead cow down with milk fever also

High bike

Mad4simmental wrote: »

Cover the second calf in salt a good bit of it. She will lick it off and start to form a bond. Had a few heifers this year that wasn't too keen to take to the calf and this worked for us.

All going well this evening after a lot of hardship and a bucket of Dairy Nuts and a Drum of salt,thanks for the tips

Deepsouthwest

Put in a cow to calve earlier, came back 45 mins later and cow had calved, but calf dead(a heifer of course). Unusually, both the calves eyes were a light grey/whitish colour, haven't seen this before. Because of this I'm assuming the calf was stillborn, or would lack of oxygen during birth have caused the eyes to change like this? Confused?

Coonagh

Was always told that if the eyes were cloudy/white calf has been dead a while

Deepsouthwest

Coonagh wrote: »

Was always told that if the eyes were cloudy/white calf has been dead a while

Yeah, I thought the same, but this calf perfect in every other way. And cow made a proper springing

visatorro

Deepsouthwest wrote:

Yeah, I thought the same, but this calf perfect in every other way. And cow made a proper springing

could be dead twelve hours, so vet reckons anyway. needed help with heifer, both legs were down. I couldn't get one of them. got calf out
.eyes dull and grey. vet said dead a while,

Deepsouthwest

visatorro wrote: »

could be dead twelve hours, so vet reckons anyway. needed help with heifer, both legs were down. I couldn't get one of them. got calf out
.eyes dull and grey. vet said dead a while,

V annoying, a lot of Bulls here this yr, and then this to a heifer. Would feel a lot worse if I found her dead in the cubicles tomo morning after staying in bed all night, couldn't do anything about this one.

freedominacup

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

V annoying, a lot of Bulls here this yr, and then this to a heifer. Would feel a lot worse if I found her dead in the cubicles tomo morning after staying in bed all night, couldn't do anything about this one.

First loss of the spring here just now. Heifer calf, full term. Put cow in calving box around six, felt she was started but no real urgency. Went back to check a 9.30 toes out. Got the ropes and a clamp and pulled the calf by hand in a few seconds fully ready to come. No stir from the calf, navel cord pulled out of torso. Hard to know if I'd been there sooner would it have made a difference.

Deepsouthwest

freedominacup wrote: »

First loss of the spring here just now. Heifer calf, full term. Put cow in calving box around six, felt she was started but no real urgency. Went back to check a 9.30 toes out. Got the ropes and a clamp and pulled the calf by hand in a few seconds fully ready to come. No stir from the calf, navel cord pulled out of torso. Hard to know if I'd been there sooner would it have made a difference.

That one would really bug me, couldn't help thinking what if I'd been there sooner etc, and then the nxt day I'd forget about it and move on.

mahoney_j

6 fr Bulls off to be genotyped this am,fingers crossed something comes up trumps.5 to ncbc and 1 to dovea

Deepsouthwest

mahoney_j wrote: »

6 fr Bulls off to be genotyped this am,fingers crossed something comes up trumps.5 to ncbc and 1 to dovea

What kind of ebi's?

mahoney_j

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

What kind of ebi's?

Predicted 290 to 320 ,genotyping will either increase or decrease it

tanko

mahoney_j wrote: »

6 fr Bulls off to be genotyped this am,fingers crossed something comes up trumps.5 to ncbc and 1 to dovea

What kind of money would AI companies pay for dairy bulls?

stanflt

mahoney_j wrote: »

Predicted 290 to 320 ,genotyping will either increase or decrease it

32 sent so far between 2 comp- highest back at 345 so no joy- I've some fair good stock bulls though