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anti Islam rally

  • 23-12-2014 9:17am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭crazygeryy


    http://news.sky.com/story/1396532/anti-islam-rally-attracts-17000-in-germany

    Would you attend one? The way things are going,it seems that loads of evil and wrong doings can be attributed to the islamic muslim way of life.
    In certain parts of Manchester it's Muslim only, practically a no go area and in western suburbs of Sydney it's the same.there are talks in certain quarters of Australia about stopping muslim migrants coming into the country.
    Personally i think if you have migrated somewhere you obey their laws or get deported.simple as that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    crazygeryy wrote: »
    Would you attend one?

    Nope.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Someone's got to stand up against those Muslim Ray Guns....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,882 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    Would there be cake ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭crazygeryy


    McDermotX wrote: »
    Would there be cake ?

    No sorry scones and tea only.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    McDermotX wrote: »
    Would there be cake ?

    Bacon flavoured cake...... obviously.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    crazygeryy wrote: »
    Personally i think if you have migrated somewhere you obey their laws or get deported.simple as that.

    And then when you have kids they can do all the heavy sh1t that you wished you could have done?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    I hope the Muslims love their children too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    Haha anti Islam rally. Hold on where did I put that white sheet, if I can dig it out i'll meet you there OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭aphex™


    And it begins...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    I hope the Muslims love their children too.


    /tasteful alto sax break


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭mackerski


    crazygeryy wrote: »
    http://news.sky.com/story/1396532/anti-islam-rally-attracts-17000-in-germany

    Would you attend one? The way things are going,it seems that loads of evil and wrong doings can be attributed to the islamic muslim way of life.
    In certain parts of Manchester it's Muslim only, practically a no go area and in western suburbs of Sydney it's the same.there are talks in certain quarters of Australia about stopping muslim migrants coming into the country.
    Personally i think if you have migrated somewhere you obey their laws or get deported.simple as that.

    I'd prefer to address the bigger problem. Them Christians is everywhere, impacting our way of life so they are. Let's protest against something that's actually there.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 862 ✭✭✭Grand Moff Tarkin


    Haha anti Islam rally. Hold on where did I put that white sheet, if I can dig it out i'll meet you there OP.

    The White sheet wearing company are more of the southern redneck type of plonker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,387 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    17,000 Germans marching on the streets with their leader shouting 'Germany is not a land of immigration'?

    /Must not Godwin thread

    /Must not Godwin thread

    /Must not Godwin thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    Its not the religion just the use of religion for criminal activity. Christians have are doing the same. If you look back in history im sure the Jesus crying lot have done everything just as bad.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


    Germans:cool:

    We could see a decent boom out of this. The camps wont build themselves and its a lot closer than Australia


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,216 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    smash wrote: »
    Someone's got to stand up against those Muslim Ray Bans....

    FYP

    Those Persian lads can out dress anyone, aviator sunglasses while stoning an infidel to death, now that's staying classy. :cool:


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Anti-Islam - no.
    Anti-Islamism - yes.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 423 ✭✭The Bould Rabbit


    crazygeryy wrote: »
    Would you attend one? The way things are going, it seems that loads of evil and wrong doings can be attributed to the Islamic Muslim way of life.

    Just like the way it seemed that loads of evil and wrong doings in the UK back in the 70s and 80s could be attributed to the Gaelic Irish way of life.

    Hell yeah, lets have a march against the entire Islamic faith and all its adherents. Nothing like the good dose of self righteous indulgence of a mob rally to make us feel good about ourselves.

    I was way to young to march in the 70s when they were demanding that the Birmingham Six and Guildford Four be hanged.

    So this is my chance to kick up a fuss against the thousands of innocent hard working Muslims who are just as appalled by the atrocities carried out in their name as the rest of us. But why let something like that mess with our entitled indignation eh?

    Maybe we could ask if any of the anti Irish protestors from the UK back in the day still have their banners and placards lying around in the shed. Save us making our own.

    All we'd have to do is cross out the word Paddy and replace it with Abdul.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    The more extreme lads are supposed to be mad craic altogether.
    Their crazy scale goes from fun to mentalist!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Is being anti Islam = anti Muslim?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    Haha anti Islam rally. Hold on where did I put that white sheet, if I can dig it out i'll meet you there OP.


    Anti Islam IS NOT RACISM !!!!


    Islam is not a race!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Anti Islam IS NOT RACISM !!!!


    Islam is not a race!!!

    Yeah, its a personal belief. Like believing in communism or capitalism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    I'll start getting worried when Taliban/IS drones are hovering overhead blowing people's homes to smithereens while their occupants sleep.

    HITLER.

    Let's just get it out of the way lads.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    I'll start getting worried when Taliban/IS drones are hovering overhead blowing people's homes to smithereens while their occupants sleep.

    HITLER.

    Let's just get it out of the way lads.

    Godwin.

    Ok, let's move on now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭floggg


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Anti Islam IS NOT RACISM !!!!


    Islam is not a race!!!

    Neither is Catholicism or Judaism. Still didn't stop the White sheets hating them either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,387 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Saipanne wrote: »
    Is being anti Islam = anti Muslim?

    Yes. Muslim is not a race.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    iDave wrote: »

    I'd have thought (and no good ever came from that) even wearing a hi viz with "Blank Police" or any variation would get you in trouble for impersonating police. No?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Yes. Muslim is not a race.

    Good. So being against religion, or just one religion does not make you racist?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    anti-Islam rally

    Paris to Mecca with female drivers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Anti-Islam - no.
    Anti-Islamism - yes.

    Waaaaay too technical for AH.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 423 ✭✭The Bould Rabbit


    Saipanne wrote: »
    Yeah, its a personal belief. Like believing in communism or capitalism.

    Interesting, but I'm not so sure about that.

    Capitalism and communism are ideals that people choose, or are forced to live their lives by. There is no compulsion to worship either model.

    People of faith however, believe their religion is something that will be with them for all eternity. And worship of a God or Gods is compulsory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    Saipanne wrote: »
    Is being anti Islam = anti Muslim?

    No


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    crazygeryy wrote: »
    http://news.sky.com/story/1396532/anti-islam-rally-attracts-17000-in-germany

    Would you attend one? The way things are going,it seems that loads of evil and wrong doings can be attributed to the islamic muslim way of life.
    In certain parts of Manchester it's Muslim only, practically a no go area and in western suburbs of Sydney it's the same.there are talks in certain quarters of Australia about stopping muslim migrants coming into the country.
    Personally i think if you have migrated somewhere you obey their laws or get deported.simple as that.

    Which Sydney suburbs and which Manchester suburbs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Interesting, but I'm not so sure about that.

    Capitalism and communism are ideals that people choose, or are forced to live their lives by. There is no compulsion to worship either model.

    People of faith however, believe their religion is something that will be with them for all eternity. And worship of a God or Gods is compulsory.

    There's your problem.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    dirtyden wrote: »
    Which Sydney suburbs ?

    The "western" ones, like Lakemba

    Giddy up


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 423 ✭✭The Bould Rabbit


    Saipanne wrote: »
    There's your problem.

    But I don't have a problem with that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    But I don't have a problem with that.

    You should, because it demonstrates that its a choice.

    Being anti religious is not racist. To even have to exclaim that is ridiculous, it should be self evident.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭hfallada


    I can't understand why everyone from a Muslim country is branded as conservative and unable to integrate into society. Muslims from Pakistan, turkey and Iran( the people are surprising liberal outside of their own country. Go to Germany or la, usa and they party hard) are pretty liberal.

    But it's all about education. There is no issues with Irish living in the UK. As we are no longer seen as terrorist and because we are educated workers. If you were a sheep farmer in Morocco, with no education. Your chances of succeeding in western Europe are very slim. You will use extremist religion to feel comfort and fit in


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 2,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭Oink


    Saipanne wrote: »
    Is being anti Islam = anti Muslim?

    Sweet suffering jehoshaphat...


    *sobs*


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,387 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    People really need to stop confusing the terms 'racism' and 'xenophobia'.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,768 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    mackerski wrote: »
    I'd prefer to address the bigger problem. Them Christians is everywhere, impacting our way of life so they are. Let's protest against something that's actually there.

    How many innocents murdered this year in Christianity inspired acts of terrorism?

    Contrast that number with the fact that hardly a week goes by without multiple poor sods being butchered or crippled in the name of Islam, often in some Western state that provided those doing the killing and/or their immediate forebearers an alternative to the hell they oringinated from and accomodated and pandered to them and their primitive beliefs to nonsensical levels on a different planet compared to the treatment of ethnic and religious minorities in their own, failed societies.

    Europe is heading for a long, bitter period of bloodshed not between states but between sections of it's own populations.The far right is rising as a reaction to the rapid growth and radicalisation of the Muslim population in Europe. The "rivers of blood" are coming.

    I wouldn't personally attend one of these rallies as I know they would attract many unsavoury, idiotic characters. But I do understand the reasoning behind them, namely ordinary people are becoming irate at the constant assaults on Western values by Islamic extremism.

    If I am (God forbid) forced to take sides some day whichever side treats women as something between a child and livestock, stones adulterers and hangs homosexuals from cranes... I'll be on the opposite side.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 423 ✭✭The Bould Rabbit


    Saipanne wrote: »
    You should, because it demonstrates that its a choice.

    Being anti religious is not racist. To even have to exclaim that is ridiculous, it should be self evident.

    I never said it was though. I just don't think you can compare believing in a God to a concept like capitalism or communism.

    Belief in one does not equate to belief in another.

    There are millions who are forced to live under communist or capitalist models. It doesn't mean they believe in them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    I never said it was though. I just don't think you can compare believing in a God to a concept like capitalism or communism.

    Belief in one does not equate to belief in another.

    There are millions who are forced to live under communist or capitalist models. It doesn't mean they believe in them.

    See the above graphic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,387 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    DeadHand wrote: »
    How many innocents murdered this year in Christianity inspired acts of terrorism?

    It's amazing how big of a void Africa is on the Christian global conscience.

    http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/12/report-details-atrocities-in-central-african-republic/


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 862 ✭✭✭Grand Moff Tarkin


    o1s1n wrote: »
    It's amazing how big of a void Africa is on the Christian global conscience.

    http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/12/report-details-atrocities-in-central-african-republic/

    You had to go back to the start of the year for that one link.

    Isis are involved in acts which are worse on a daily bais.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭Splendour


    Would you attend one?[/QUOTE]

    And march against this girl's beliefs? http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24379018

    No I wouldn't. I would attend an anti terrorist march though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,118 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Saipanne wrote: »
    You should, because it demonstrates that its a choice.

    Being anti religious is not racist. To even have to exclaim that is ridiculous, it should be self evident.

    Its not self evident at all and completely misunderstands racism. To say muslim or islam is not a race therefore being anti islam is not racist is not true at all.

    Today almost nobody subscribes to the old traditional idea of there being such a thing as a race. The vast majority of people acknowledge there is one human race.

    However racism is very much used to mean open prejudice and hostility and institutional oppression to all members of a group which may not be scientifically defined as a “race” but which has shared group characteristics — often skin colour, but also sometimes other characteristics such as language or religion.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    DeadHand wrote: »
    How many innocents murdered this year in Christianity inspired acts of terrorism?
    This is the perfect example of why these types of demonstrations are dangerous. The inability to differentiate between those who are Muslim and those who are extremist terrorists.


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