PW Draft 2015 - Discussion Thread

campo

I am going to start having to pick a couple of tag teams soon as currently I only have 1 , not much of a tag division in my fed

beakerjoe

Bazza Windham was my pick this round if Magnum got swipped. Thought Magnum would last a few more rounds but couldnt take the chance.

Windham is a great pick.

Spongey1975

I think we've 3 picks of this round left. Can we get the order for the next one up sometime today and of course the stip

Sin Eater

Was thinking of taking Barry Windham at some stage too, great in his own right, but also US Express was a great tag team (and a good tag team partner with Dustin Runnels).

Lord TSC

Will get next round up soon. Was avoiding the board while I hadn't seen the Rumble :P Will get it up asap.

beakerjoe

Lord TSC wrote: »

Will get next round up soon. Was avoiding the board while I hadn't seen the Rumble :P Will get it up asap.

I still havent seen it....but ive avoided any spoilers so far.

Looking forward to the stip.

Spongey1975

Lord TSC wrote: »

Will get next round up soon. Was avoiding the board while I hadn't seen the Rumble :P Will get it up asap.

Not seen it either yet and quickly avoided all the notifications on my phone this morning but then i saw a pic on facebook which looks like it gave away the winner. Damn u facebook

Bounty Hunter

Same happened here, Had it spoiled on me (but not by boards)

anywhoo looking forward anxiously to this draw and stip, not had the greatest of draws so far so with stip time approaching im hoping that changes.

beakerjoe

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Same happened here, Had it spoiled on me (but not by boards)

anywhoo looking forward anxiously to this draw and stip, not had the greatest of draws so far so with stip time approaching im hoping that changes.

Yeah im looking forward to the stip and look forward to planning.

beakerjoe

Pick 20, see you guys in a week!

A Brad Maddox Guy

17! Had some awful draws this year but this is the only round I cared about from here on in Expecting a return to the drawing board by my pick.

Mr.Nice Guy

Well I won't be getting to go with my Plan B option with a draw of 15th. If I had gotten a high placing this round I would have pulled the trigger on that. A pity.

Bounty Hunter

At least you guys have an early pick in the Celeb round. Or are you not interested in celebs? a lot didn't pick them last year but the round was much early then.

brianregan09

I'll get my pick up after work have so far avoided rumble spoilers thank ****

beakerjoe

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Well I won't be getting to go with my Plan B option with a draw of 15th. If I had gotten a high placing this round I would have pulled the trigger on that. A pity.

Ah never say never MNG, ive an oldie I want and I still think I may get him and a celeb in mind too.

JP Liz V1

Lord TSC: The Rock, Batista, The Miz & John Morrison, Jack Swagger, Ron Simmons, Shawn Daivari, LAX aka Homicide & Hernandez, Kofi Kingston & R-Truth, Roddy Piper

Mr.Nice Guy: Stone Cold Steve Austin, Dynamite Kid & Davey Boy Smith, Rey Mysterio and Mistico aka Sin Cara, Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard aka The Brainbusters, Paige & Sweet Saraya, Kerry Von Erich, Tyler Breeze, Eric Bischoff

Raf32: Hulk Hogan, Macho Man Randy Savage, Goldberg, Ryback & Curtis Joe Hennig, Rick Rude & King Kong Bundy, Brie & Nikki Bella, Val Venis, Zack Ryder & Curt Hawkins

thebostoncrab: Trish Stratus & Lita, AJ Lee & Kaitlyn, Manami Toyota & Aja Kong, Natalya & Beth Phoenix, Emma & Charlotte Flair, Victoria, Gail Kim, Mickie James, Awesome Kong

beakerjoe: HBK, Jake Roberts, Owen Hart & Jeff Jarrett, Vince McMahon, New Age Outlaws aka Billy Gunn & Road Dogg, Hart Dynasty aka Tyson Kidd & Harry Smith, Nigel McGuinness, Magnum TA

Jester252: Ric Flair, Diamond Dallas Page, Scott & Rick Steiner, William Regal & Tajiri, Booker T, William Regal & Tajiri, Tommy Dreamer & Sandman, Paul London & Brian Kendrick, Heath Slater & Titus O'Neill

Uncle Walt: Bret Hart, Randy Orton, Rob Van Dam & Sabu, The Fabulous Freebirds aka Michael Hayes & Terry Gordy, Bruiser Brody, Justin Credible & Lance Storm, Hayabusa & Masato Tanaka, Eliminators aka Perry Saturn & John Kronus, Dusty Rhodes

ShagNasti: Prince Devitt, Sting, Keiji Mutoh & Masahiro Chono, Lex Luger, Rusev, The Big Show, Iron Sheik, Rick Martel, Andre The Giant

lebowskilite: Chris Jericho, Roman Reigns, Damien Sandow & Cody Rhodes, Wade Barrett & Drew McIntyre, Bam Bam Bigelow, Mike Awesome, Test & Albert, Stephanie McMahon

Moneymaker: John Cena, Brian Pillman, Legion of Doom aka Road Warriors Hawk & Animal, Kenny Omega & Kota Ibushi, Demolition, Raven, Ascension aka Konnor & Viktor, Ultimo Dragon

campo: Mr Perfect & Scott Hall, Eddie Guerrero, The Ultimate Warrior, Kevin Nash aka Diesel, Mr Anderson, Mark Henry, James Storm, Nikita Koloff

A Brad Maddox Guy: Mick Foley, Dean Ambrose, Kenta & Naomichi Marufuji, Sycho Sid Vicious, Taz & Kevin Sullivan, Bobby Lashley, Ken Shamrock, Adam Cole

brianregan09: Brock Lesnar, Alberto Del Rio, Dolph Ziggler & Big E Langston, Bobby Fish & Kyle O'Reilly, Shane McMahon, Gangrel, Muhammad Hassan, Steve Blackman

Bounty Hunter: CM Punk, Hiroshi Tanahashi & Shinsuke Nakamura, Kenta Kobashi & Mitsuharu Misawa, Samoa Joe, Vader, Jerry Lawler, Jesse Ventura, Dan Severn

mrkiscool2: Daniel Bryan, Sami Zayn & Kevin Steen, Chris Benoit & Dean Malenko, Kazuchika Okada, The Young Bucks, Chris Candido, Justin Thunder Liger, Ethan Carter III

Sin Eater: Kurt Angle, The Million Dollar Man Ted Dibiase & Stan Hansen, Ricky Steamboat & Goldust, JBL, Shelton Benjamin & Charlie Haas, Finlay, Steve "Dr Death" Williams & Mike Rotunda, Doc Gallows & Karl Anderson, Terry Funk

connemara man: Undertaker, Bray Wyatt & Bo Dallas, Kane & X-Pac, Matt Hardy, Luke Harper & Erick Rowan, Rhyno, D'Lo Brown & Papa Shango, Brad Maddox

JP Liz V1: Edge, Christian, Motor City Machine Guns aka Alex Shelley & Chris Sabin, American Wolves aka Davey Richards & Eddie Edwards, Austin Aries, Santino Marella, Low-Ki & Frankie Kazarian, Lethal Consequences aka Jay Lethal & Consequences Creed, Bobby Heenan

Spongey1975: HHH, Jeff Hardy, AJ Styles & Christopher Daniels, Sheamus, Yokozuna, Gangstas aka New Jack & Mustafa Saed, Bobby Roode, Jimmy & Jey Uso

DM_7: Seth Rollins, Chris Hero & Cesaro, Dudley Boyz Devon & Bully Ray, Paul Heyman, Adrian Neville & Corey Graves, Umaga, Mark & Jay Briscoe, Barry Windham

connemara man

well dead center I hadn't planned on a Celeb or a Pre 70's pick so it might not be too bad for me

DM_7

No real interest in a celeb myself so unlikely to go with one.

Was hoping for a higher draw in round 9 myself also.

General discussed tpppc for next year, should the 70 rule be moved onto 75 rule next year? Pre 70s options are relatively limited imo and the draft is quite a few years old now so perhaps the 70s rule could move on a few years? Lots of new wrestlers are now available but the number restricted has not changed. Maybe the 70s rule was 60s before ???

Bounty Hunter

DM_7 wrote: »

No real interest in a celeb myself so unlikely to go with one.

Was hoping for a higher draw in round 9 myself also.

General discussed tpppc for next year, should the 70 rule be moved onto 75 rule next year? Pre 70s options are relatively limited imo and the draft is quite a few years old now so perhaps the 70s rule could move on a few years? Lots of new wrestlers are now available but the number restricted has not changed. Maybe the 70s rule was 60s before ???

Interesting idea and I wouldnt be apposed to it although maybe not by 5 years but if that was done id hope itd be like this years stip and not just one round where they are available otherwise you would end up with a load of great names going unpicked. Would further elaborate on that but can't point out which names yet

A Brad Maddox Guy

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

At least you guys have an early pick in the Celeb round. Or are you not interested in celebs? a lot didn't pick them last year but the round was much early then.

Wasn't planning on it. I had one in mind but it isn't an important person at all so didn't care if I didn't get them and chances are nobody else would go for it anyway. My would be pre-70s pick is the complete opposite but ah well, that's the game and I'll just work something else out if need be. Think there's a lack of star power in my roster tbh so I'll have to make up for it in my writing if I'm to improve on last year's showing.

Mr.Nice Guy

Maybe I'm in the minority on this but I would favour scrapping pre-???? picks altogether. Just let all periods be eligible. I like the fact that LTSC has done this for the remainder of the game now. Why not try this from Round 1 next time?

I know some will say it's an interesting stip round and I agree, but between now and the next game there's plenty of time to brainstorm and come up with a fun alternative.

mrkiscool2

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Maybe I'm in the minority on this but I would favour scrapping pre-???? picks altogether. Just let all periods be eligible. I like the fact that LTSC has done this for the remainder of the game now. Why not try this from Round 1 next time?

I know some will say it's an interesting stip round and I agree, but between now and the next game there's plenty of time to brainstorm and come up with a fun alternative.

I don't agree. I find this stip to be interesting but I wouldn't want to see it every year. I think it really makes people think out side the box a little for picks and then when the round comes along they have to make an extremely tough choice as to who they want. I really like the rule.

beakerjoe

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Maybe I'm in the minority on this but I would favour scrapping pre-???? picks altogether. Just let all periods be eligible. I like the fact that LTSC has done this for the remainder of the game now. Why not try this from Round 1 next time?

I know some will say it's an interesting stip round and I agree, but between now and the next game there's plenty of time to brainstorm and come up with a fun alternative.

Not that I dont like the stip, but I agree its a bit stale at this stage and new stips need to be implemented. I alwasy expect a celeb round and a pre 70 so Id love some new stips and these ones being abolished next year.

Bounty Hunter

You could always amalgamate them and have a celeb or pre 70s round for example. TSC kinda mentioned it but I was the one who suggested the change to this years pre 70s stip (they are available from this round not only in this round) as when the draft started I really liked the educational side of the draft and reseraching some of the older legends. Not to mention the fact that it means more of the best known names in PW can be picked in late rounds now instead of complete jobbers.

Wonder will we have another pick for someone elses roster round. It's usually good fun as people actually take it seriously though iirc it was pick for the person before you in the order (or if your no.1 you pick for no.20) so the person picking for you would know if you had been fair to the person before you. Also I think we had it that you also got to pick for yourself in that round so it wasnt a round where things slowed down with people not being as bothered about when their go is (which they may have been if they werent picking for themselves).


As a one off I wouldnt be apposed to a no pre any year rule too as it would give more options but I would then hope so that there is still a lot of challenge that the early rounds are more still filled i.e the ECW or ROH appearance rounds which I think work very nicely.

Nody

beakerjoe wrote: »

Not that I dont like the stip, but I agree its a bit stale at this stage and new stips need to be implemented. I alwasy expect a celeb round and a pre 70 so Id love some new stips and these ones being abolished next year.

Well if we're throwing out ideas you could do something like:

Round 1: Has to been in ECW
Round 2: Has to have wrestled in anything but WWE
Round 3: Has to be a tag team
Round 4: Pre 70s only
Round 5: Normal round

Suddenly a lot of the "normal" picks for the first couple of rounds are no longer possible which will throw a complete curve ball for people and force some research and most likely set up main feuds that would normally not be done due to getting WWE star A, B and C in the first rounds.

Mr.Nice Guy

Again perhaps I'm in a minority on this but I dislike stips that place limitations on rosters.

I'd even be in favour of doing away with the rule that says you have to draft people who've been in WWE, TNA, NWA etc which tends to cut off lots of indy/international talent. In my view better to just blow the whole thing wide open and let it be about drafting whomever you want.

I would favour keeping limitations on celebrities because otherwise you could end up with shows that look like Celebrity Big Brother.

I just think if the idea is that we are promoters who can draft people across several decades etc., the idea that there is this arbitrary barrier of 1970, 1975, or WWE, TNA, etc. just seems a bit silly to me.

A lot of this is my own fault though because when I did the first game in '08 I made it a WWE Draft which right away placed massive limitations on talent from the start. Bit by bit we've expanded it out further and further but imo the 'end-goal' should be to offer as much freedom of choice as possible.

I think people would be much happier if the game were made more open as far as name availability goes.

DM_7

I lke the stips, makes the game more fun than an open field. Its also good to have restrictions as not everyone is working from the same knowledge base so it at least makes the rosters more even.

Also i have brought up some rule changes a couple of times now , there is nothing wrong with the game and if it was to continue as is for maby years it would be great. Bringing up ideas for discussion more than anything else.

A Brad Maddox Guy

I actually think that would risk reducing interest in the game. I know I'd personally have little interest in reading shows consisting solely of people I've never seen (for example a puro fed made up of mostly 90s Japanese wrestlers) which could be very possible without limitations. Maybe a compromise could be that everybody can pick a certain amount of people from outside the eligible promotions, but only 2 or 3. This could give the openness for more creativity that I'm sure many would enjoy.

Mr.Nice Guy

A Brad Maddox Guy wrote: »

I actually think that would risk reducing interest in the game. I know I'd personally have little interest in reading shows consisting solely of people I've never seen (for example a puro fed made up of mostly 90s Japanese wrestlers) which could be very possible without limitations. Maybe a compromise could be that everybody can pick a certain amount of people from outside the eligible promotions, but only 2 or 3. This could give the openness for more creativity that I'm sure many would enjoy.

You make a fair point. I didn't consider that side of it.

DM_7 wrote:

Also i have brought up some rule changes a couple of times now , there is nothing wrong with the game and if it was to continue as is for maby years it would be great. Bringing up ideas for discussion more than anything else.

Yes, +1. The game is in fine fettle as it is. Most of the suggestions I'm throwing out would be with a view towards future games.

Also it gives me something else to think about while I mull over my next move!

brianregan09

Pick MAde and PM sent !