January transfer window rumors and gossip

Dublin Spur · 30-07-2015 10:16am

Ormus wrote: »

Ah I was only slagging.

no problem

Dublin Spur · 30-07-2015 11:45am

Mail claim Tottenham Hotspur are considering a move for Liverpool striker Rickie Lambert. #THFC http://t.co/lhMubMiT4O

Oh dear - scouse scraps

Sugarlumps · 30-07-2015 11:49am

Dublin Spur wrote: »

Mail claim Tottenham Hotspur are considering a move for Liverpool striker Rickie Lambert. #THFC http://t.co/lhMubMiT4O

Oh dear - scouse scraps

Poor Rickie.

Devo from Dublin · 30-07-2015 12:00pm

i reckon, we'll announce 2 maybe 3 signings within a day of each other.

Dublin Spur · 30-07-2015 12:07pm

quite worrying........

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premier-league-last-five-seasons/transfer-league-tables/premier-league-table-last-five-seasons

pleasant Co. · 30-07-2015 2:07pm

^^^i'll spare all ye the click, above link has nothing to do with transfer rumours for this window.

DubPerryman · 30-07-2015 2:35pm

Dublin Spur wrote: »

quite worrying........

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premier-league-last-five-seasons/transfer-league-tables/premier-league-table-last-five-seasons

Worrying wouldn't be my adjective of choice.

If you take the net spend figure and our position in that table, it would suggest we're over-achieving for the last five years - because we've finished 5th rather than 20th.

If you take the gross spend figure, the fact that we have the 6th highest spend but came 5th in the leguae, would suggest we're slightly over-achieving. While Man Utd are dramatically under-achieving.

While, if you look at the big picture, you'd probably be able to figure out that we are preparing for a massive capital expenditure (the stadium). I'd hazard a guess that if you looked at Arsenal's net transfer income in the years leading up to the building of The Emirates, it would look pretty similar. However, if you look at their expenditure since The Emirates was built you see a dramatically different picture.

Wait until Nike Hart Lane is built and then you'll see us signing the likes of Ozil and Sanchez for £40m+.

DubPerryman · 30-07-2015 2:45pm

Dublin Spur wrote: »

quite worrying........

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premier-league-last-five-seasons/transfer-league-tables/premier-league-table-last-five-seasons

This table would support my view that we have been going through a period of 'austerity' over the past five years, tightening our belts for long-term gain.

We have the 5th highest expenditure in players since the PL began.

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premier-league-1992-to-date/transfer-league-tables/premier-league-table-1992-to-date

And it's not as if it was just Alan Sugar spending money in the early days. Since 2003 we have spent considerably more than Arsenal.

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premier-league-2003-to-date/transfer-league-tables/premier-league-table-2003-to-date

Dublin Spur · 30-07-2015 2:57pm

DubPerryman wrote: »

Worrying wouldn't be my adjective of choice.

If you take the net spend figure and our position in that table, it would suggest we're over-achieving for the last five years - because we've finished 5th rather than 20th.

If you take the gross spend figure, the fact that we have the 6th highest spend but came 5th in the leguae, would suggest we're slightly over-achieving. While Man Utd are dramatically under-achieving.

While, if you look at the big picture, you'd probably be able to figure out that we are preparing for a massive capital expenditure (the stadium). I'd hazard a guess that if you looked at Arsenal's net transfer income in the years leading up to the building of The Emirates, it would look pretty similar. However, if you look at their expenditure since The Emirates was built you see a dramatically different picture.

Wait until Nike Hart Lane is built and then you'll see us signing the likes of Ozil and Sanchez for £40m+.

what I see is a club making profits on transfer dealings and not making any net investment in players. it's that simple.

how did arsenal build a stadium and still manage to compete for trophies ?
because they were run properly and had footballing ambition.

look at the table again, we are ROCK BOTTOM, and while you're thinking about that think about the fact that our owner is worth billions of pounds.

the only winner in all of this is Lewis and Levy - the fans get nothing whilst the owners get richer and it's been like this for 15 years now - my patience ran out around 4 years ago - you will reach your own breaking point some day.

DubPerryman · 30-07-2015 3:04pm

Dublin Spur wrote: »

look at the table again, we are ROCK BOTTOM, and while you're thinking about that think about the fact that our owner is worth billions of pounds.

We're only rock bottom in the table for the last five years.

ENIC has been in control for 14 years.

Do the other tables not suggest that we were spending as expected for the first 9 years of their ownership, but tightened their belt in the last five years?

Dublin Spur · 30-07-2015 3:16pm

DubPerryman wrote: »

We're only rock bottom in the table for the last five years.

ENIC has been in control for 14 years.

Do the other tables not suggest that we were spending as expected for the first 9 years of their ownership, but tightened their belt in the last five years?

Its the here and now I'm interested in
right now we are the club that spends the least on players
that is a shocking indictment on the owners and the glamorous history of our club

We're 15 years down the road with this mob, they have had 15 years (30 transfer windows) to provide us with a competent manager and a successful team - history tells us they are not going to deliver the goods - I have witnessed enough false dawns - its just not gonna happen with ENIC.

When they eventually sell up they will probably walk away with close to a billion pounds whilst the trophy cabinet will continue to gather dust. They are the only winners, we get nothing as usual.

This sentiment is becoming more widespread as more and more fans see what really going on. We all have a limit on how much we can take, I reached mine a few years ago.

I would love ENIC to prove me wrong by the way and deliver a successful team we can be proud of but it's just not gonna happen because they think it's too expensive to attempt.

mass_debater · 30-07-2015 3:21pm

Please stop, you've got your own anti levy thread don't be spoiling this one

Dublin Spur · 30-07-2015 3:23pm

okay - agreed - got side tracked there (wasn't the only one) - enough

mass_debater · 30-07-2015 3:32pm

https://twitter.com/sport_simon/status/626700378822832128

Sugarlumps · 30-07-2015 3:37pm

I'd be surprised if Lerner was picking up the tab solely.

mass_debater · 30-07-2015 3:39pm

Sugarlumps wrote: »

I'd be surprised if Lerner was picking up the tab solely.

Hopefully there's an if he scores three goals you keep him clause

Sugarlumps · 30-07-2015 3:40pm

mass_debater wrote: »

Hopefully there's an if he scores three goals you keep him clause

He'll score goals, good for a season.

DubPerryman · 30-07-2015 3:51pm

He'd be a value purchase for the fantasy football team. We've all seen how well he can play when he's on loan and fighting for a contract!

mass_debater · 30-07-2015 4:36pm

DubPerryman wrote: »

He'd be a value purchase for the fantasy football team. We've all seen how well he can play when he's on loan and fighting for a contract!

Yeah, Tim gets the best out of him too

mass_debater · 30-07-2015 6:21pm

https://twitter.com/SpursOfficial/status/626799640847978496

30-07-2015 7:27pm

What's that Queen song? "And another one gone, and another one gone. Another one bites the dust"!

Glebee · 30-07-2015 7:38pm

mass_debater wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SpursOfficial/status/626799640847978496

Thanks **** for that. Out of all the players that need to go he had to be top of my list. He did not even look like a footballer at some stages last season. Brutal. Although Romania must be poor if hes there centre half..

30-07-2015 7:52pm

I think he's actually the captain of the Romania team....

jobeenfitz · 30-07-2015 7:58pm

Great to see us clearing out the players that are not really in managers plans.

Time to see a few decent buys now with league, Euro crap and domestic cups or we just fizzle out end of next season again.

2nd Row Donkey · 30-07-2015 9:28pm

DubPerryman wrote:

If you take the gross spend figure, the fact that we have the 6th highest spend but came 5th in the leguae, would suggest we're slightly over-achieving. While Man Utd are dramatically under-achieving.

But by that logic does that not provide a strong argument to say further spending would most likely result in an even better final league position.

DubPerryman · 30-07-2015 11:23pm

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

But by that logic does that not provide a strong argument to say further spending would most likely result in an even better final league position.

Quite the opposite. United are spending significantly more than us and I stated that they are underachieving.

A heavy gross spend doesn't necessarily result in success.