Soccer Forum Premier League Era Draft Game Thread

Blatter

Oh and Lloyd, Berbatov never played wing forward for United unless I'm horribly mistaken. I never remember him anywhere but right down the middle.

Still a very good pick at that stage, he was underwhelming but solid at United, majestic at Spurs.

Frankie Lee

Milner is a solid enough pick at this stage.

Andersonisgod

Frankie Lee wrote: »

Milner is a solid enough pick at this stage.

Solid and unspectacular, classic Milner.

bucketybuck

Frankie Lee wrote: »

Milner is a solid enough pick at this stage.

James Milner has more premier league assists than David Silva, Ronaldo, Nani, Walcott, Mata, Pires, and technically David Beckham, Scholes and Dennis Bergkamp (I think that might have to do with record keeping for the last 3 though).

Milner is more than a solid pick, he is somebody I came very close to taking in a number of rounds. The only reason I didn't is the perception people tend to have of him.

LuckyLloyd

Blatter wrote: »

Oh and Lloyd, Berbatov never played wing forward for United unless I'm horribly mistaken. I never remember him anywhere but right down the middle.

Still a very good pick at that stage, he was underwhelming but solid at United, majestic at Spurs.

Really? I don't pay a massive amount of attention to Utd lineups obv but I could have sworn I saw him out wide as part of a three from time to time...I'll bow to your more tuned in view though needless to say!!

LuckyLloyd

If it's purely peak then every team becomes roughly equivalent. That's the problem.

There's little or no way to distinguish between:

Torres
Henry
Shearer
Rooney
Fowler

etc, etc

If we're purely going by their very best season. It just becomes a matter of preference then.

Blatter

bucketybuck wrote: »

James Milner has more premier league assists than David Silva, Ronaldo, Nani, Walcott, Mata, Pires, and technically David Beckham, Scholes and Dennis Bergkamp (I think that might have to do with record keeping for the last 3 though).

Milner is more than a solid pick, he is somebody I came very close to taking in a number of rounds. The only reason I didn't is the perception people tend to have of him.

I think he's a very good pick myself but his assist record looks good compared to those because he has 400+ PL appearances to his name, more than double a lot of the names you mentioned. I'd agree that record keeping does affect the last 3 too.

SlickRic

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

If it's purely peak then every team becomes roughly equivalent. That's the problem.

There's little or no way to distinguish between:

Torres
Henry
Shearer
Rooney
Fowler

etc, etc

If we're purely going by their very best season. It just becomes a matter of preference then.

Yup, it's logically speaking a ridiculous notion that you simply take everyone at their peak and take barely anything else into consideration.

you simply have to take legacy, longevity, impact on the team etc into some sort of consideration. Peak performance can still be the main criteria, but other things simply have to be considered.

bucketybuck

SlickRic wrote: »

Yup, it's logically speaking a ridiculous notion that you simply take everyone at their peak and take barely anything else into consideration.

But that isn't what people are saying, nobody means that nothing else should be taken into consideration.

We are simply rebutting those who seem to think that the likes of a 33 year old Ruud Gullit still wouldn't be superb in this hypothetical game simply because he didn't play enough seasons.

shano_88

Great pick in Park. Was wondering who would pick him up.

Another striker I'd imagine will go soon.

Frankie Lee

Round 12 completed now, some good progress being made through the rounds now. Some excellent picks in that round, I'm resigned to an early exit with the way my team panned out.

IncognitoMan

Frankie Lee wrote: »

Round 12 completed now, some good progress being made through the rounds now. Some excellent picks in that round, I'm resigned to an early exit with the way my team panned out.

Me too :cool: So lets hope we draw each other and then at least one of us will get through :pac:

bucketybuck

I'd like to reassure everybody that David Ginola's impending bid for the FIFA presidency will not impact upon his performance in the upcoming draft games.

Liam O

bucketybuck wrote: »

James Milner has more premier league assists than David Silva, Ronaldo, Nani, Walcott, Mata, Pires, and technically David Beckham, Scholes and Dennis Bergkamp (I think that might have to do with record keeping for the last 3 though).

Milner is more than a solid pick, he is somebody I came very close to taking in a number of rounds. The only reason I didn't is the perception people tend to have of him.

Is that really true? Nani and Walcott especially were feeding the ball to Rooney and RVP respectively during their hot streaks and I remember Mata had a ridiculous year one time.

Schwiiing

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Frankie Lee

Liam O wrote: »

Is that really true? Nani and Walcott especially were feeding the ball to Rooney and RVP respectively during their hot streaks and I remember Mata had a ridiculous year one time.

He had a ****load for Villa, especially the season he played centre midfield.

LuckyLloyd

Bellamy a great pick.

bucketybuck

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Bellamy a great pick.

Really? I've always considered him a talented player that showed flashes of his ability but never really performed consistently in the PL. I know we are in the later rounds, but I'd call him a risky pick.

LuckyLloyd

Was brilliant for City in 2009 / 10 imo

Morzadec

Nani was a brilliant pick at this stage I'm surprised he took so long to go.

Yes he's been hit and miss, but this is predominantly peak performance and there was a season (was 11/12?) where he was arguably in the top 3 performers in the league, and in general he had a 2-3 year period where he was mostly excellent

bucketybuck

Morzadec wrote: »

Nani was a brilliant pick at this stage I'm surprised he took so long to go.

Yes he's been hit and miss, but this is predominantly peak performance and there was a season (was 11/12?) where he was arguably in the top 3 performers in the league, and in general he had a 2-3 year period where he was mostly excellent

Nani is completely underrated, was hoping to snap him up myself. IMO he won a title for United and was robbed by Bale for player of the year, in 2011 I think? He's definitely a weapon.

redzerdrog

The picks in the next two rounds are pretty meaningless as they are unlikely to make a significant difference to anyones team unless someone made a hash of things in the earlier rounds.

Also in general it is going to be a lower caliber player available at this late stage so even less likely to have a significant impact.

bucketybuck

redzerdrog wrote: »

The picks in the next two rounds are pretty meaningless as they are unlikely to make a significant difference to anyones team unless someone made a hash of things in the earlier rounds.

Also in general it is going to be a lower caliber player available at this late stage so even less likely to have a significant impact.

On the contrary, I think they are going to be very interesting. There are still a few hidden gems there, and the potential for changing formations to suit the opposition is very interesting in my opinion.

These picks might not cost you a match, but they could win you one.

LuckyLloyd

bucketybuck wrote: »

On the contrary, I think they are going to be very interesting. There are still a few hidden gems there, and the potential for changing formations to suit the opposition is very interesting in my opinion.

These picks might not cost you a match, but they could win you one.

Meh, there's not a huge amount left on the board relative to what's already gone. Any teams that benefit from players at this stage are probably poorly constructed to begin with.

SlickRic

I got PM'd but I don't think it's my go.

Have PM'd Ferris Bueller.

Pudsy33

Cabaye is a fantastic pick at this point

Frankie Lee

Valencia is gone I'm fairly sure.

Pudsy33

Frankie Lee wrote: »

Valencia is gone I'm fairly sure.

I picked him earlier but I had received a pm in error saying it was my go, so I deleted him. I did a search and he doesn't show up so I think I'm ok.

Frankie Lee

Oh right I knew I seen him there already.

eagle eye

Sorry about the hold up lads. I was at work with no internet access all day.

Anyways picked up another legend and pm sent. I have some selection posers now.

A_Sober_Paddy

Just looking through the keepers drafted and there seems to be one keeper who i'm a bit surprised hasn't been snapped up yet...

Is there many more picks until the draft concludes

Frankie Lee

I can't even remember if Chris Waddle was any good in the PL era but he makes for good youtube highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKpkS1NWI78

I can't remember too many players making such a fool of Giggs who has always been hugely underrated defensively.

Frankie Lee

Rushden is up now, Chrissybhoy can make his pick whenever he is online.

Frankie Lee

SherlockWatson is happy enough with the 12 players he has and needs no more so whenever Rushden makes his pick he has two available (pick 15 in round 13 and pick 2 in round 14) then it will be with Chrissybhoy again. The thing has hit a bit of a bottleneck at the moment.

Frankie Lee

Moving on to Redzerdrog now, Chrissybhoy can make his picks whenever he is online again.

Rushden

Really starting to lose interest in this now that it's been dragging out for so long

Ferris_Bueller

In hindsight the subs were probably a bad idea, it has stalled terribly over the last few days.

eagle eye

We moved along at a great pace through eleven rounds or maybe even twelve. Its sad that people can't just continue on with the same effort for another couple of rounds. Its just pure laziness on the part of some of those involved.

There is no good reason that this should have stalled like it has.

Skylinehead

You'll get some teamwork from those two on the bench Chrissy :pac:

Chrissybhoy

Great passion from those. I see it as will to win

Frankie Lee

Martin Laursen should have went rounds ago, I regretted picking Agger ahead of him but did so just for Agger's left footedness.

My squad in the end:
De Gea

Gary Kelly, McGrath, Kompany, Agger, Kolarov

Gravesen, Fernandinho, Scholes, Poyet, Robben, Waddle, Joe Cole

Les Ferdinand

I'm not expecting much from them.

LuckyLloyd

The subs are meaningless, that's the problem.

Frankie Lee

Frankie Lee wrote: »

It will be the later rounds that will make the real difference between the teams I reckon. Are we going 14 player squads or 11 player teams. I like the idea of squads as it will make the matches a little more unpredictable.

Frankie Lee wrote: »

1 more thing, is everyone ok with 14 man squads to allow for tactical variation?

Frankie Lee wrote: »

Not a bad idea if Junior D didn't mind, are we going for 14 man squads?

IncognitoMan wrote: »

Love Van Nistelrooy

14 man squads is fine with me

I did ask early on in the competition and that was the only response I got.

The Moldy Gowl

It was the weekend lads. People like to think they have 'lives'.

Frankie Lee

Only 6 picks left now too, so the games will be starting very soon.

IncognitoMan

Is Alex song not gone already?

Frankie Lee

Yeah Ferris Bueller has him. I PM'd AIG already so hopefully he sees it.

eagle eye

Pick made and I've got selection posers now.

VDS

Carr Dunne/Henchoz/Hyypia Azpilicueta

Schneiderlin/Hamann/Tugay

Hazard/Cahill/Bale

Hughes/Suarez

LuckyLloyd

Final team:

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Friedel

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Arbeloa----Terry (C)---Walker

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Pearce

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Mascherano

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Ince

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Silva

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Beardsley

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Kewell

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Van Nisteelroy

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Berbatov
Kinkladze
Djorkaeff

SlickRic

May as well put up my final team.

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Southall

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Sagna

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Desailly

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Hendry

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Bridge

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Gilberto

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Wilshere

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Lampard

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Walcott

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Pires

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Aguero

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Subs:
Shawcross
Ramsey
Sutton