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Lizard Squad are at it again (PSN/Live Down)

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    #62
    TimeToShine
    Registered Users Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    COYVB wrote: »
    Got nothing to do with security. It's a ddos. It requires no ability or knowledge to do, and its got zip to do with the security of any server. Robustness, yes. Security, no.

    Still requires man/processing power, which they seem to have.


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    #63
    Riesen_Meal
    Registered Users Posts: 10,575 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    TimeToShine wrote: »
    Still requires man/processing power, which they seem to have.

    By double clicking inside a PC app, typing in an IP address into a box and clicking "fire mah lazerz" ???

    That doesn't take much power, it's when you multiply it by 5000 is where the issues start....


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    #64
    COYVB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    TimeToShine wrote: »
    Still requires man/processing power, which they seem to have.

    Doesn't require much of either to be fair


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    #65
    TimeToShine
    Registered Users Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    Fieldog wrote: »
    By double clicking inside a PC app, typing in an IP address into a box and clicking "fire mah lazerz" ???

    That doesn't take much power, it's when you multiply it by 5000 is where the issues start....

    I meant in terms of bringing down PSN/XBL so the second part of your post is correct.


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    #66
    COYVB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    TimeToShine wrote: »
    I meant in terms of bringing down PSN/XBL so the second part of your post is correct.

    If they took both down on a random July night I'd be impressed. But Christmas would've had both networks close to breaking point anyway. Hard to imagine it took THAT much to tip them over the edge given the 6m plus of new ps4 owners and 4-6m new xbox one owners all trying to update their OS, patch games and play online at the same time


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    #67
    Riesen_Meal
    Registered Users Posts: 10,575 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    COYVB wrote: »
    If they took both down on a random July night I'd be impressed. But Christmas would've had both networks close to breaking point anyway. Hard to imagine it took THAT much to tip them over the edge given the 6m plus of new ps4 owners and 4-6m new xbox one owners all trying to update their OS, patch games and play online at the same time

    In fairness to the hackers, they have been threatening this for weeks - you would think (in your head) they would have a safeguard against the attacks, the reality is they can't do much to stop it, especially whilst being attacked.... :(


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    #68
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,215 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    TimeToShine wrote: »
    Still requires man/processing power, which they seem to have.

    No it doesn't. A single person can easily do it with a zombie network or even just a peer to peer attack. Get a lot of people on a torrent and tghey unwittingly contribute. I'd be very surprised if 'Lizard Squad' are more than 5 bored teenagers.
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    #69
    COYVB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    No it doesn't. A single person can easily do it with a zombie network or even just a peer to peer attack. Get a lot of people on a torrent and tghey unwittingly contribute. I'd be very surprised if 'Lizard Squad' are more than 5 bored teenagers.

    A couple of them live close by me as chance has it


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    #70
    Blue_Dabadee
    Registered Users Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Blue_Dabadee


    COYVB wrote: »
    Got nothing to do with security. It's a ddos. It requires no ability or knowledge to do, and its got zip to do with the security of any server. Robustness, yes. Security, no.

    Well, I did not say it was not a DDOS attack. I am not exactly tech savvy, I was just going by what I read online a few hours ago when Lizard Squad reported to be the group to DDOS attack the PSN/XBL servers and what their intention was that it can be easily done such a day like yesterday or today like you said.


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    #71
    I Armour I
    Registered Users Posts: 799 ✭✭✭I Armour I


    Without prying to much, by chance are you from cork COYVB?


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    #72
    COYVB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    I Armour I wrote: »
    Without prying to much, by chance are you from cork COYVB?

    Nope, I'm in canada


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    #73
    john the one
    Registered Users Posts: 1,750 ✭✭✭john the one


    COYVB wrote: »
    Nope, I'm in canada

    Lizard squad are probably based in Russia


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    #74
    COYVB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    john the one wrote: »
    Lizard squad are probably based in Russia

    Theyre not. They were doxxed back in August after a LOL attack. All their info is in the public domain


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    #75
    Riesen_Meal
    Registered Users Posts: 10,575 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    COYVB wrote: »
    Theyre not. They were doxxed back in August after a LOL attack. All their info is in the public domain

    Its all here :

    http://www.lizardsquad.info/


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    #76
    dharma200
    Registered Users Posts: 998 ✭✭✭dharma200


    they have just tweeted : https://twitter.com/****crucifix

    supposedly games now for free as has been hacked?


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    #77
    COYVB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    Link dead


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    #78
    J. Marston
    Registered Users Posts: 23,160 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Boards censors "fúck" so replace the **** with fúck and it'll take you to their childish Twitter where they're shíteing on about Destiny being free on PSN.

    IN ALL CAPS OF COURSE.


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    #79
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,215 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Fair enough some kid being upset over their new console not working xmas day but some of the nerd rage because someone can't get a game of call of duty or fifa is embarrassing.
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    #80
    Grayditch
    Registered Users Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    Nerd and Fifa/COD in the same sentence...


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    #81
    YouSavedMyLife
    Registered Users Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭YouSavedMyLife


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Fair enough some kid being upset over their new console not working xmas day but some of the nerd rage because someone can't get a game of call of duty or fifa is embarrassing.

    Some people don't have a backlog of 52,651 games to play like yourself. :pac: Think of the children


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    #82
    GerB40
    Registered Users Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭GerB40


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Fair enough some kid being upset over their new console not working xmas day but some of the nerd rage because someone can't get a game of call of duty or fifa is embarrassing.

    I was slightly put out by the DoS but I have a backlog of books to fall back on so it wasn't a big deal for me.

    But "some kid being upset" is actually thousands of kids who's only present they were looking forward to getting was an Xbox or PS4 so they could play kids games like little big planet or similar games. Their promise to Santa to be nice all year must make them feel fairly sad just because a group of nerds wanted to make a point.. I can't help but feel bad for the young uns... Not to mention the parents who had little money but still managed to buy these consoles to see the joy on their kids faces that, so far, they haven't seen.

    The nerd rage is definitely over the top but seriously "Won't somebody please think of the children"..


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    #83
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,215 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I never got that Super Nintendo I wanted back in 1992 so those kids are only feeling a tiny amount of the pain I felt since PSN and Xbox Live will be back up soon. I turned out to be a well adjusted individual anyway.

    Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to DDOS PSN and XBox Live so entitled children can feel my christmas pain!
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    #84
    J. Marston
    Registered Users Posts: 23,160 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Don't know if these two guys are legit but if they are, what a pair of utter twats...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVXfAb8NXyM


    I do like the interviewers fairly obvious disdain for them.


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    #85
    Dublin Red Devil
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭Dublin Red Devil


    I'm still offline, can't sign in


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    #86
    lertsnim
    Registered Users Posts: 9,754 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    Dublin Red Devil wrote: »
    I'm still offline, can't sign in

    I see "Sony Entertainment Network is currently undergoing maintenance". It's a mystery as to how long this will take.


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    #87
    COYVB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    sony's got it down voluntarily at the moment apparently


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    #88
    GerB40
    Registered Users Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭GerB40


    COYVB wrote: »
    sony's got it down voluntarily at the moment apparently

    Which would suggest they're either bulking up their security or they've actually been hacked by actual hackers. It's just gettin fair fùckin annoying now...


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    #89
    gimli2112
    Registered Users Posts: 13,408 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Fair enough some kid being upset over their new console not working xmas day but some of the nerd rage because someone can't get a game of call of duty or fifa is embarrassing.



    the real calamity is because of this I had to watch Frozen and now can't stop singing the songs


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    #90
    crasy dash
    Registered Users Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭crasy dash


    gimli2112 wrote: »
    the real calamity is because of this I had to watch Frozen and now can't stop singing the songs

    Ah cmon let it go haha


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    #91
    Dublin Red Devil
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭Dublin Red Devil


    If anything thing it exposed the incompetence of PSN staff. and Sony as an organization With all the money they make you'd think they would hire the people with the skills and provide them with the resources necessary to set up security systems to stop this


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