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Argos 42" led TV €299

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  • Registered Users Posts: 817 ✭✭✭bonkers


    New stock in santry but all y models

    AAnyonekept the y model any thoughts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,055 ✭✭✭✭cena


    I am so confused. What has the y and x got to do with the the t.v


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭tazwaz


    Collected mine this morning and it was the y model so they'll have an x model in on saturday.
    I didn't get a chance to check the difference between the x and y but there's obviously some difference :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭massy086


    Well i kept the y model and it has netflix and youtube and a browser.so im confused as to what the x has that y does.nt my self.sound is not great .but i knew that from reading reviews


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭newportlad




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,092 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    newportlad wrote: »
    Would this TV be saorview enabled?

    Yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭Hellywelly


    I kept the Y model. But didn't get the wifi dongle & none available now.
    Would chromecast work instead?

    I am brutal with technology so apologies if this an exceptionally dumb questi on. Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    stuba wrote: »
    http://www.currys.ie/Product/panasonicviera-tx50a300b-50-led-tv/330757/6.9.0


    Can anyone give an opinion on this TV? Anyone have one and know is it saorview approved?

    Don't know about that particular model, but it is illegal for Currys to sell it without specifically stating that will not tune in the Saorview channels. If it has a Freeview HD tuner it will tune in the Saorview channels, even though it may not be Saorview approved. In any case, I doubt very much that Currys would sell a non-saorview tv.


  • Registered Users Posts: 161 ✭✭tippgirl123


    Dongles are out of stock everywhere. If you had a wifi extender which you cud connect a Ethernet cable to, would that work. Or as someone mentioned above using chrome cast??
    Also the price is showing at 299.99 on the deals section but is 309 when u go to reserve and buy. So does anyone have a reservation number for dundrum with the old price


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,285 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    Anyone know where I might find a compatible wifi dongle for it online?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭5500


    Picked one up at the weekend but hdmi 2 port isn't working. It's enabled and I've tried different leads and devices ect but it throws up no signal anyone else have the same problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭tazwaz


    Anyone know where I might find a compatible wifi dongle for it online?
    Hellywelly wrote: »
    I kept the Y model. But didn't get the wifi dongle & none available now.
    Would chromecast work instead?

    I am brutal with technology so apologies if this an exceptionally dumb questi on. Thanks!
    Dongles are out of stock everywhere. If you had a wifi extender which you cud connect a Ethernet cable to, would that work. Or as someone mentioned above using chrome cast??
    Also the price is showing at 299.99 on the deals section but is 309 when u go to reserve and buy. So does anyone have a reservation number for dundrum with the old price
    tazwaz wrote: »
    I have one reserved in wwaterford for tomor but they're all sold out of the reduced price dongles. Any idea where I'll get one a reasonable priced one please?
    dunworth1 wrote: »

    I got what Dunorth1 recommended, have no tv to try them on yet as I got the y instead of the x at the weekend, waiting on new stock on Sat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭bromley52


    Anyone know where I might find a compatible wifi dongle for it online?

    This might work

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Toshiba-USB-Wi-Fi-Dongle-Smart-Black/dp/B00HVD1QUW


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭massy086


    5500 wrote: »
    Picked one up at the weekend but hdmi 2 port isn't working. It's enabled and I've tried different leads and devices ect but it throws up no signal anyone else have the same problem
    I seem to be having the same issue with both hdmi ports


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 863 ✭✭✭ucd.1985


    Ordered powerline adapters in anticipation of buying this TV but as per my previous post, could not find a netflix model.

    Might be useful to someone if they want to purchase them for cost before I return to Amazon.

    D15 area. Thanks

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005KTM2G6?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 275 ✭✭jacob2


    collected hitachi led 42 smart from liffey valley for my daughter easy to set up its the y model but it has netflix the remote is rubbish u have to hit the buttons to make them respond without the wifi dongle its useless for wifi its cheap for the money but if want something better go for the lg smart or samsung


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭5500


    massy086 wrote: »
    I seem to be having the same issue with both hdmi ports

    I'm going to bring my own back as I've spent ages at it and cant find a solution, connected online and tried a software update but none are available, as well as resetting the TV ect.

    Can anyone else that may have picked one up confirm if both their HDMI ports are working ok?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Spipov


    5500 wrote: »
    I'm going to bring my own back as I've spent ages at it and cant find a solution, connected online and tried a software update but none are available, as well as resetting the TV ect.

    Can anyone else that may have picked one up confirm if both their HDMI ports are working ok?

    Are you sure they are good cables?might be a finicky set?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭5500


    Tried 3 different cables on the second port, first port is fine with all of them but the second just shows no signal. Theres an option to switch ports on and off and both are obviously on too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Spipov


    5500 wrote: »
    Tried 3 different cables on the second port, first port is fine with all of them but the second just shows no signal. Theres an option to switch ports on and off and both are obviously on too.

    If one works and not the other, somethings faulty. There are some sets ive heard that the second port is a different standard, but thats hearsay at this moment


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    I don't know why anybody would compromise on quality when it comes to products like TVs. I would never buy this piece of $hit, no matter how cheap it was. I'd rather pay the extra 200 quid and get a quality brand like Sony or Samsung that i'll have no issue with and get far better enjoyment out of.

    This is in no way a bargain, its just cheap vastly inferior equipment at a cheap price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,093 ✭✭✭cletus


    grenache wrote: »
    I don't know why anybody would compromise on quality when it comes to products like TVs. I would never buy this piece of $hit, no matter how cheap it was. I'd rather pay the extra 200 quid and get a quality brand like Sony or Samsung that i'll have no issue with and get far better enjoyment out of.

    This is in no way a bargain, its just cheap vastly inferior equipment at a cheap price.

    Jaysus, must be grand to have money


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    cletus wrote: »
    Jaysus, must be grand to have money

    To be fair, given that most people would hope to get years out of a TV, if at all possible these TV's are best avoided when an extra €100 would get you a much better TV. They're more likely to develop faults, in the short term and the long term.

    I've owned two Vestel TV's, one developed a HDMI problem after a few days, the other stopped working after two weeks.

    Maybe just bad luck, but I've stopped seeing these TV's as bargains and more gambles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,093 ✭✭✭cletus


    To be fair, given that most people would hope to get years out of a TV, if at all possible these TV's are best avoided when an extra €100 would get you a much better TV. They're more likely to develop faults, in the short term and the long term.

    I've owned two Vestel TV's, one developed a HDMI problem after a few days, the other stopped working after two weeks.

    Maybe just bad luck, but I've stopped seeing these TV's as bargains and more gambles.

    And I presume as they were both inside warranty you brought them back for replacement or refund.

    My comment above was in relation to the fact that the poster was suggesting adding 2/3 of the original cost in order to get a different tv. For many people that w would be a substantial amount of money, and it would remove the purchase from "bargain"


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 6,817 ✭✭✭jenizzle


    Collected mine in Tallaght just there. It was the 'Y' model, not the 'X' model so I returned it. The lady wasn't very helpful in trying to see if there were any more 'X' models lying about, so I just ended up getting a refund. They had no bother charging the €299 as per reservation email though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,285 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    I don't think the x model exists in Irish stores.
    The y model does have Netflix apparently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭tazwaz


    I had gotten and returned the y model, and was waiting for the x model to arrive this weekend but my telly died today so i bought this one from a local independent store for €390. From what he was saying it seems better value but I'm not 100% sure. It's working grand anyway :-)

    http://www.soundstore.ie/mobile/product/walker-wp4014t2sm-40-smart-wifi-led-with-satellite-tuner/7057/2220.0.3?&


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    cletus wrote: »
    And I presume as they were both inside warranty you brought them back for replacement or refund.

    My comment above was in relation to the fact that the poster was suggesting adding 2/3 of the original cost in order to get a different tv. For many people that w would be a substantial amount of money, and it would remove the purchase from "bargain"

    While the tone of his argument might be off, this imo is very much a gamble, as much as a bargain. Considering the hdmi problems noted here in a small sample size, and the fact you need to buy an external dongle @60€; rrp extra, and poor sound quality means that for €370 I'd want a little more to be jumping about it being a bargain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,093 ✭✭✭cletus


    While the tone of his argument might be off, this imo is very much a gamble, as much as a bargain. Considering the hdmi problems noted here in a small sample size, and the fact you need to buy an external dongle @60€; rrp extra, and poor sound quality means that for €370 I'd want a little more to be jumping about it being a bargain.


    The tv may or may not be a bargain, however for many people "for €200 more" just isn't an option, especially when that's a substantial chunk of the original money. If we were talking about €200 more on a €5000 purchase fair enough, but €200 on a €300 purchase?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 275 ✭✭jacob2


    the walker tv is better with the two year guarantee both tvs are made by the same factory with a different badge


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭bromley52


    I have a reservation code at €299 if anyone wants it for Cork Mahon. Cab be collected until 05Jan.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,982 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    To be fair, given that most people would hope to get years out of a TV, if at all possible these TV's are best avoided when an extra €100 would get you a much better TV. They're more likely to develop faults, in the short term and the long term.
    grenache wrote: »
    I don't know why anybody would compromise on quality when it comes to products like TVs. I would never buy this piece of $hit, no matter how cheap it was. I'd rather pay the extra 200 quid and get a quality brand like Sony or Samsung that i'll have no issue with and get far better enjoyment out of.

    This is in no way a bargain, its just cheap vastly inferior equipment at a cheap price.
    These are cheap and cheerful.

    The panel is more important than the brand on the box

    no one expects the panel to have the same contrast as a better one. You're going to be using external speakers anyway and most people will be using it as a monitor for their Satellite/cable box anyway.

    It would be nice if modern electronics had to list the OEM and the OEM for the Panel as well as the brand/designer.



    Most if not all of the big brands have given us shoddy products over the years with capacitor plague, dodgy panels on laptops, battery recalls etc. and not just in the budget ranges.

    Most are made in the same Chinese factories. IIRC Vestel are Turkish so probably lower eco/human rights footprint too.




    In general too many brands have traded on their names in the past the current generation of marketing / decision makers don't seem to understand this. Over 60 million cars have been recalled in the US this year. One company advertises as the best built cars in the world presumably as damage limitation.

    While the tone of his argument might be off, this imo is very much a gamble, as much as a bargain. Considering the hdmi problems noted here in a small sample size, and the fact you need to buy an external dongle @60€; rrp extra, and poor sound quality means that for €370 I'd want a little more to be jumping about it being a bargain.
    My views on smart TV's dongles is just buy a chromecast / android / now tv / amazon fire stick instead.
    they are cheaper , better supported, lower security risk and way better remote control interface. There's no way I'd use a live account or password with a smart TV

    BTW Irish recalls here - you can play spot the brand at home.
    http://www.consumerhelp.ie/product-recalls

    /RANT


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Just because even major brand name manufacturers have recalls doesn't offset the fact that this a cheap, poor quality TV relatively speaking.

    No-one's saying the visual quality is sub-par; quite often cheap TV's have the same panels as their more expensive counterparts. That is common knowledge. However, there's a lot more to a TV than the panel, and these TV's for the most part are terrible quality in every other aspect.

    The odds are - and they're odds, not a guarantee - is that this TV is twice as likely to break down as a decent brand TV.

    It doesn't mean it's not a good price. Doesn't mean it might not last years. But when we consider that most people might watch or use a TV a few hours a day, and might reasonably expect it to last several years, you're talking about a few thousand hours usage, it's not a bad argument to make that you save the extra 1 or 200 to get a decent set in the long run.

    I do echo the above poster though, it's not really a bargain when you factor it all in. More just 'you get what you pay for'. Already several people on this forum with issues with the TV after just buying it. I bought 2 before thinking that because I had a proper sound system and all that I was dependent on was the panel - which was perfect - it'd be fine for me....it wasn't. Both faulty within weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,408 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Just because even major brand name manufacturers have recalls doesn't offset the fact that this a cheap, poor quality TV relatively speaking.
    You say its cheap and I think everyone knows why that is...the price :) But you also state that its poor quality. Can you give us the reasons for this statement please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,343 ✭✭✭dunworth1


    The odds are - and they're odds, not a guarantee - is that this TV is twice as likely to break down as a decent brand TV.
    .

    sorry but that's nonsense
    any mass produced item will have a number of faulty products
    just because some people here bought some with problems
    does not mean that all the tv is more likely to develop a fault then a sony tv

    Marketing is a powerful thing these days


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭dickwod1


    Price increase again now €329.99


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,982 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    dickwod1 wrote: »
    Price increase again now €329.99

    Curries have this - 100Hz, Panasonic
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057352222


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I have one reserved in Omni if anybody wants the code. It's for €299 but has to be collected by tomorrow (2nd Jan).
    I ended up buying a 55" in Power City so no longer needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭5500


    Brought mine back to argos liffey valley the girl said there had already been 3 returned yesterday with faults when I mentioned the hdmi problem.

    She got the manager over to show another one coming back so the problems may be a bit more wide spread than expected with them


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,343 ✭✭✭dunworth1


    5500 wrote: »
    Brought mine back to argos liffey valley the girl said there had already been 3 returned yesterday with faults when I mentioned the hdmi problem.

    She got the manager over to show another one coming back so the problems may be a bit more wide spread than expected with them

    could be a bad batch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    These are cheap and cheerful.

    The panel is more important than the brand on the box

    no one expects the panel to have the same contrast as a better one. You're going to be using external speakers anyway and most people will be using it as a monitor for their Satellite/cable box anyway.

    It would be nice if modern electronics had to list the OEM and the OEM for the Panel as well as the brand/designer.



    Most if not all of the big brands have given us shoddy products over the years with capacitor plague, dodgy panels on laptops, battery recalls etc. and not just in the budget ranges.

    Most are made in the same Chinese factories. IIRC Vestel are Turkish so probably lower eco/human rights footprint too.




    In general too many brands have traded on their names in the past the current generation of marketing / decision makers don't seem to understand this. Over 60 million cars have been recalled in the US this year. One company advertises as the best built cars in the world presumably as damage limitation.


    My views on smart TV's dongles is just buy a chromecast / android / now tv / amazon fire stick instead.
    they are cheaper , better supported, lower security risk and way better remote control interface. There's no way I'd use a live account or password with a smart TV

    BTW Irish recalls here - you can play spot the brand at home.
    http://www.consumerhelp.ie/product-recalls

    /RANT

    It doesn't really matter where the TV is made. It's who designed the TV and quality control that matters. Better brands are usually in house designed and quality control is carried out by the said brands. They select what components go into their TV's and how the tv is made.

    There is a big difference between this and Tv brands who just get vestel to stick their badge on a vestel made and designed product. These TV's are vastly inferior to the better brands in my experience. They are very poorly and cheaply made imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭dickwod1


    Got the Hitachi 42" today, No problems so far, Both HDMI ports work, Has Netflix and found all the Saorview channels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭dashcamdanny


    Went up north and got an LG 42 inch tv for the money at Tesco Direct. Seemed to be much better bargains up there.

    They had the Blaupunkt 40" for 179 pounds. Tesco here has the same TV for 299euro.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    Went up north and got an LG 42 inch tv for the money at Tesco Direct. Seemed to be much better bargains up there.

    They had the Blaupunkt 40" for 179 pounds. Tesco here has the same TV for 299euro.


    Are both HD ready or full HD


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    jacob2 wrote: »
    the walker tv is better with the two year guarantee both tvs are made by the same factory with a different badge

    Nope- the Walker (and the Grundig, and the Bush and a few others) are made by Beko in Turkey. The Hitachi (and JVC, and World and a few others- are made by Orion (the second largest OEM TV manufacturer in the world)- at a variety of locations- but the factory serving the EU is in Poland (their main factory is in Thailand).

    It uses most of the same components as the JVC- but would be around 2 generations older than current JVC models.

    If purchased in Ireland- it has the standard 2 year warranty- the same as a Walker- the 1 year warranty only applies to the UK (our consumer protection law is significantly better than theirs!).

    Its a very good value tv- however the deal breaker for me is the fact that its only 50Hz- so fast gameplay (on a playstation) or sports- would have a high probability of bluring.

    Good value set though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    Nope- the Walker (and the Grundig, and the Bush and a few others) are made by Beko in Turkey. The Hitachi (and JVC, and World and a few others- are made by Orion (the second largest OEM TV manufacturer in the world)- at a variety of locations- but the factory serving the EU is in Poland (their main factory is in Thailand).

    It uses most of the same components as the JVC- but would be around 2 generations older than current JVC models.

    If purchased in Ireland- it has the standard 2 year warranty- the same as a Walker- the 1 year warranty only applies to the UK (our consumer protection law is significantly better than theirs!).

    Its a very good value tv- however the deal breaker for me is the fact that its only 50Hz- so fast gameplay (on a playstation) or sports- would have a high probability of bluring.

    Good value set though.
    Vestel makes all those TV's including Hitachi and JVC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    Just set up my 42HYT42U. Have HDMI 1 & 2 working.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭dashcamdanny


    washman3 wrote: »
    Are both HD ready or full HD

    Both Full HD . Not smart though. I guess Now TV or chromecast are a decent alternative.

    Never had a TV like this before. Big step up from the 32" old hd ready toshiba I had.

    I got a fairly decent LG soundbar and sub as well. Wife thinks it came with it. :pac:

    Looks and sounds the business .


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    Vestel makes all those TV's including Hitachi and JVC.

    I wonder if they're just re-badging certain models- as Hitachi are definitely still large scale manufacturers (albeit at the budget end)- they do most of the OEM own brand stuff for Costco, Walmart, Target etc in the US. They were also one of the three Japanese companies (including Sony) who pooled their LCD production plants together back in 2012- and recently expanded their massive LCD TV plant in Thailand.

    They're not out of the market- like Sony- but I suspect a rebadging exercise may be happening here.........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭danois


    Have a reservation code for this for dundrum. It's to be collected by tomorrow if anyone wants it. Have the email that says €299 can forward that too.


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