The Tipperary GAA (Club and intercounty) Discussion thread 2015

evolving tipperary

Yes, Shelly would want to be looked at sooner rather than later for the senior Tipp set-up - mould him into a player - as he is big and strong. I hear he is a very good boxer too - wonder if he's still treating that seriously...

You'd imagine if he is good enough that Eoin and Paul will be in somebody's ear within the Tipp camp...is he still under 21?

evolving tipperary

The Tipperary Minor Hurling Team to play Waterford in the Munster Championship Quarter-Final this Wednesday at 7pm in Semple Stadium is.
1 Padraigh Hayes (Ballingarry)
2 Emmet Moloney (Drom and Inch)
3 James Quigley (Kildangan)
4 Enda Heffernan (Clonoulty Rossmore)
5 Jack Skehan (Holycross Ballycahill)
6 Brian McGrath (Loughmore Castleiney)
7 Darragh Peters (Kilruane McDonaghs)
8 Liam McCutcheon (Templederry)
9 Shane Neville (Latin Cullen)
10 Daragh Carey (Templederry)
11 Stephen Quirke Capt (Moyle Rovers)
12 Ruadhan Mulrooney (Portroe)
13 David Gleeson (Ballinahinch)
14 Alan Tynan (Roscrea)
15 Ross Peters (St Marys Clonmel)

evolving tipperary

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Yes, Shelly would want to be looked at sooner rather than later for the senior Tipp set-up - mould him into a player - as he is big and strong. I hear he is a very good boxer too - wonder if he's still treating that seriously...

You'd imagine if he is good enough that Eoin and Paul will be in somebody's ear within the Tipp camp...is he still under 21?

He was a member of Callan boxing club and was a former national champion albeit in his early teens. He is more or less concentrating on GAA these days. He is under 21 in both codes from what i understand but is a better hurler. He is on the u21s but went to the US last year. Id imagine we'll see a bit of him this year though

tippspur

evolving tipperary wrote: »

The Tipperary Minor Hurling Team to play Waterford in the Munster Championship Quarter-Final this Wednesday at 7pm in Semple Stadium is.
1 Padraigh Hayes (Ballingarry)
2 Emmet Moloney (Drom and Inch)
3 James Quigley (Kildangan)
4 Enda Heffernan (Clonoulty Rossmore)
5 Jack Skehan (Holycross Ballycahill)
6 Brian McGrath (Loughmore Castleiney)
7 Darragh Peters (Kilruane McDonaghs)
8 Liam McCutcheon (Templederry)
9 Shane Neville (Latin Cullen)
10 Daragh Carey (Templederry)
11 Stephen Quirke Capt (Moyle Rovers)
12 Ruadhan Mulrooney (Portroe)
13 David Gleeson (Ballinahinch)
14 Alan Tynan (Roscrea)
15 Ross Peters (St Marys Clonmel)

Is much expected of our minor hurlers this year? I would have high hopes for our U/21 hurlers but wouldn't be to sure about the minors.

tippspur

tippspur wrote: »

Is much expected of our minor hurlers this year? I would have high hopes for our U/21 hurlers but wouldn't be to sure about the minors.

From what i understand they were very young last year. Were unlucky in Ennis too barring some shíte officiating where 3 were unfairly sent off despite us leading at half time. I think i remember Premierstone saying that even the Clare crowd thought there was farcial decisions. Prior to that they met a brilliant Limerick team in the first match in the Gaelic grounds. Liam Cahill seems to be adamant that they are a year older and wiser. Its hard to know with minors really.

Like the look of Quirke from last year. Very talented. A hurling version of his brother Philip

tippspur

Yeah it's true,hard to know what way a minor team will turn out.

evolving tipperary

Hopefully, McGrath is okay after six weeks and there are no more injuries in Spain:

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/tipp-hit-with-mcgrath-injury-blow-31122640.html

evolving tipperary

Injuries building for the under 21 footballers:

http://www.the42.ie/5-tipperary-forwards-missing-munster-u21-football-final-2033040-Apr2015/?utm_source=twitter_self

Rasputin11

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Hopefully, McGrath is okay after six months and there are no more injuries in Spain:

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/tipp-hit-with-mcgrath-injury-blow-31122640.html

It's a six week injury for John McGrath.

evolving tipperary

Yeah, typo there!

evolving tipperary

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Hopefully, McGrath is okay after six weeks and there are no more injuries in Spain:

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/tipp-hit-with-mcgrath-injury-blow-31122640.html

Rough luck on the young lad. He was playing great stuff to date.

OAOB

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Rough luck on the young lad. He was playing great stuff to date.

It breaks up the momentum he's built up over the last few months but he's also done a lot of winter hurling so the break might not be the worst thing for him at the moment

Looking forward to the matches this week. Ill be at both. Weather is good and optimism is high.

UP THE PREMIER!

Well spoken by Westside this week

http://www.tippsupportersclub.com/westside-column-10-april-2015/

It was a bad week for GAA justice. The rejection of the Seamus Callanan and Cathal Barrett appeals has left a sour taste in Tipperary and raises obvious issues about the Association’s commitment to fair play. The Tipperary delegation to the Central Hearings Committee, it seems, felt very confident that they had made a convincing case in both instances and there was dismay when the verdicts were relayed. ‘Not sufficiently compelling to rebut the referee’s report’, was the reason given for the rejection of the appeals.
‘Not sufficiently compelling’? You have a camera with a full-on, frontal view of the incident between Seamus Callanan and his marker where no striking could be seen and yet it was deemed insufficient to rebut a charge of striking. The camera doesn’t lie, folks, but I suppose if you’re determined to uphold the referee’s report, come what may, then you’ll use any fudge available.
This might be bearable – just about – if it was a consistent policy but clearly it’s not. Any fair-minded neutral looking at the Pat Horgan incident from the 2013 Munster final must surely be baffled as to how the Cork man deserved exoneration but Callanan didn’t. Or Henry Shefflin from the qualifier the same year? Or even Jonjo Farrell in a recent league match?
Incidentally I think the referees erred in the cases of Horgan, Shefflin and Farrell and therefore the decisions to rescind the cards were correct. However, the error was every whit as obvious with Callanan – even more obvious when compared to the Pat Horgan incident – and yet we have an entirely different outcome. Why the double standard?
Prior to this appeal being heard I was being told by email that Tipperary had no chance of success because unlike Cork or Kilkenny they have no friends in Croke Park. If that is the case then it is a sad indictment of the Association. I’m now hearing ‘I told you so’ from the same correspondents. Couple this with the ‘special’ treatment of Peter Creedon and you may well see a pattern emerge.
Anyway the players and Eamon O’Shea have decided that there will be no further appeal attempt. Understandably they see it as a distraction to the team which wants to now look ahead to the league semi-final. I understand their attitude though the dogged part of me hates seeing injustice thrive.
You know another aspect of this affair that really irks me too: the deafening silence of the national media. Some parts of that media corps were well able to kick up a stink over Horgan or Shefflin but have now suddenly pressed the mute button.
In other affairs the changes to the playing rules come into force this Saturday so all concerned would do well to take note. The one-on-one penalty is the most eye-catching but there are other aspects too such as the advantage rule. I’ve read the missive from Croke Park outlining the alterations and one aspect of the advantage rule puzzles me.
A referee can now allow an advantage for up to five seconds and if no advantage accrues then he can call back play for the original foul. That’s fair enough but then it states that if the player being given the five-seconds advantage commits a foul himself within that time then the free will be given against him and the advantage effectively cancelled.
A typical scenario here would be where a player is bearing down on goal and gets fouled; then when he’s given the five-seconds advantage he over-carries. Under the new stipulation he’ll now have a free awarded against him instead of having the original foul penalised.
What now follows will probably read like sacrilege in a GAA column: I think the rugby fraternity has got this one right. In rugby, if the team being given advantage commits an infringement within the allotted time, then the referee comes back to the original foul. That makes perfect sense to me, unlike the GAA scenario. Anyway we’ll see how in pans out.
The quest by Thurles CBS for a second All Ireland colleges’ title came up tantalisingly short at the Stadium on Saturday last. A brave effort by the Tipp lads just wasn’t enough as hot favourites, St. Kieran’s, took their 20th title.
The margin was three at the interval and three at the end and that pretty well summed up the minimal gap between two fine sides. In fairness the Kilkenny lads looked the slicker side and Thurles spent most of the time chasing the game. They showed typical resolve in the chase but it just wasn’t enough.
When you’re tackling strong favourites you need a break or two and in that regard the CBS was luckless. A few fleeting goal chances just escaped them when they lacked a little composure near goal. Even the last point, whipped over by Drom’s Robbie Long, might easily have gone under and the referee was a bit too hasty in not allowing advantage on one of their final attacks. Small things decided it and Thurles deserve huge credit for a mighty effort that just fell short. They’ll still remember their Harty year with great pride.
Hopefully the Abbey CBS will cap a memorable year too this Saturday when they chase an All Ireland senior football ‘B’ crown at Croke Park. They’ll be outsiders against Carlow CBS but, like Thurles, they’ve shown fine resolve all season and hopefully it will get its reward. It would be a fitting one for team mentor, Damien O’Brien, who played a key role in the school’s last success at headquarters back in 1998, scoring seven points in an historic win over St. Louis Grammar School, Ballymena. Good luck to them on Saturday.
Finally it’s not the time of year when you expect to see GAA publications rolling off the presses; the Christmas market is a more typical target. Yet Tipperary native and long-time Kilkenny resident, Jim Fogarty, has stepped into the breach with his latest gem. Remember in 2012 he produced ‘The Dan Breen Cup’ chronicling Tipperary county S.H. finals from 1931 to 2011. Well this time he’s gone inter-county with ‘The Cross of Cashel’, a compilation of fifty years of All Ireland U21 hurling finals. Actually he covers fifty-one finals from Tipperary’s win in the competition’s launch year of 1964 to the completion of Clare’s hat-trick of titles in 2014.
It’s a beautiful production covering half a century of finals in a grade that’s sometimes maligned but regularly produces marvellous hurling spectacle. Don’t expect long, meandering accounts of fixtures and finals. Instead, true to form, Jim is both concise and precise. Each final is distilled down to its essentials, a memory-jogger if you will for many followers. It’s for the browser more than the bookworm.
The photographs, I’d suggest, will be a major selling point for this production. By pulling together all those finals into one neat, colourful production it provides followers with an excellent resource. Eight different counties have won the All Ireland U21 hurling crown, which should ensure quite a wide audience for this worthwhile production.
The title, ‘The Cross of Cashel’, comes from the trophy presented to the winner, which is a replica of an old Celtic Cross from the Rock of Cashel – no filling of cups with this handful! The trophy was first presented by Dr. Morris to fellow Tipperary man, P.J. Ryan of Carrick, after the premier county defeated Dublin in the 1967 decider.
The book should be available soon in most local towns or otherwise you can contact the author at 086 1512946 or at email jkfog1@gmail.com. Tipperary has won the title nine times so there should be no shortage of local interest in this book.

tippspur

Spot on from Westside as usual.

Rasputin11

tippspur wrote: »

Spot on from Westside as usual.

Very good article, the whole thing is rotten to the core. Callanan joins Brian O Meara, Eamonn Corcoran and John Coughlan as Tipp hurlers banned for fcuk all.

Poor minor performance tonight however some positives to be taken aside from the win. We closed out the game well tbf. Ref was dire and never let the game get into any sort of rhythm. There would be less whistle blowing at Sheep dog trials plus some of his decisions were bizarre while the remainder of his performance lacked consistency

Rasputin11

Rasputin11 wrote: »

Very good article, the whole thing is rotten to the core. Callanan joins Brian O Meara, Eamonn Corcoran and John Coughlan as Tipp hurlers banned for fcuk all.

The 2 Brian O'Mearas. Brian from Mullinahone missed an all Ireland final in 2001 due to more Ref incompetence.

tippspur

Went up to Thurles tonight,Not a great display by the Tipp minors at all,in fact Waterford must be wondering how they lost the game after dominating most of it.our backs played well enough and denied the Blahs a couple of goal chances in the first half and held out well at the end of the game to see it out,but the forwards were a different story,apart from Quirk they couldn't win a ball,lucky we had a great free taker who kept us in the game.the ref really loved the sound of his whistle,all stop go stop go ffs.

Spirit of 67

Tipp Under 21 Team for tomorrow night , Colin not selected but don`t be surprised if he starts !

Evan Comerford (Kilsheelan Kilcash), Kevin Fahey (Clonmel Commercials), Jimmy Feehan (Killenaule), Colm O’Shaughnessy (Ardfinnan), Ross Mulcahy (Moyle Rovers), Luke Boland (Moyle Rovers), Bill Maher (Kilsheelan Kilcash), Steven O’Brien (Ballina), Liam Casey (Cahir), Jason Lonergan (Clonmel Commercials), Ian Fahey (Clonmel Commercials), Paul Shanahan (Upperchurch Drombane), Kevin O’Halloran (Portroe), Josh Keane (Golden Kilfeacle), Paul Maher (Kilsheelan Kilcash) .

evolving tipperary

A win is a win - win ugly, fine. The time for form is later in the year - it's an early start to a long summer...


That young lad showed great character to knock over those 65s

buggy beag

Prior to this appeal being heard I was being told by email that Tipperary had no chance of success because unlike Cork or Kilkenny they have no friends in Croke Park. If that is the case then it is a sad indictment of the Association. I’m now hearing ‘I told you so’ from the same correspondents. Couple this with the ‘special’ treatment of Peter Creedon and you may well see a pattern emerge.This is from this weeks westside column what do ye think lads?

Rasputin11

evolving tipperary wrote: »

A win is a win - win ugly, fine. The time for form is later in the year - it's an early start to a long summer...


That young lad showed great character to knock over those 65s

Had they the pitch narrowed in a few yards on the New Stand side or am I mistaken?

Charlie69

buggy beag wrote: »

Prior to this appeal being heard I was being told by email that Tipperary had no chance of success because unlike Cork or Kilkenny they have no friends in Croke Park. If that is the case then it is a sad indictment of the Association. I’m now hearing ‘I told you so’ from the same correspondents. Couple this with the ‘special’ treatment of Peter Creedon and you may well see a pattern emerge.This is from this weeks westside column what do ye think lads?

Kilkenny have friends in Croke Park????... that's the best one I've heard in a while.

buggy beag

Only a direct quote from another source:)why would you think that ye dont?

Charlie69

buggy beag wrote: »

Only a direct quote from another source:)why would you think that ye dont?

I wouldn't go along with the conspiracy theorists in my own county buggy, but friends in Croke Park?... definitely not.

I thought Seamie's red would definitely be rescinded btw

buggy beag

Charlie69 wrote:

I wouldn't go along with the conspiracy theorists in my own county buggy, but friends in Croke Park?... definitely not.

Charlie69 wrote:

I thought Seamie's red would definitely be recinded btw

Ya elsewhere in the article he highlighted how horgan and shefflin had their cards rescinded for arguably worse so thats where it came from id imagine.

Charlie69

buggy beag wrote: »

Ya elsewhere in the article he highlighted how horgan and shefflin had their cards rescinded for arguably worse so thats where it came from id imagine.

Yeah, it was easy to rescind Shefflin's though as KK were out of the championship anyway, overturning Horgan's though meant he was available to play against KK , huge difference.

buggy beag

Ya think his main point was that theres no consistency

Charlie69

buggy beag wrote: »

Ya think his main point was that theres no consistency

He's right.