Air Asia flight from Singapore to Indonesia missing

ceadaoin.

It hasn't been a very good year for aviation. An air Asia flight has lost contact with air traffic control while flying over Indonesian air space.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30614627

ardinn

We can rule out foul play i suggest (well you can never rule it out] but its fairly stable air space is it not??

Highflyer13

Terrifying stuff. Awful year for aviation. Over 5 hrs overdue at the moment which itself is outside the range for this type of aircraft.

Captain Chaos

Highflyer13 wrote: »

Terrifying stuff. Awful year for aviation.

I don't think it was. 1 plane went missing, so did an Air France flight over the Atlantic a few years ago.

The other flew over an active war zone and got shot down as a result. That's not bad luck, that's being stupid.

To put in perspective we have had the worst year for road deaths in 10 years but that's not even on the news.

The Diabolical Monocle

surely not again.

JaMarcusHustle

Captain Chaos wrote: »

I don't think it was. 1 plane went missing, so did an Air France flight over the Atlantic a few years ago.

The other flew over an active war zone and got shot down as a result. That's not bad luck, that's being stupid.

He didn't say it was bad luck. He said it was an awful year.

Highflyer13

Captain Chaos wrote: »

I don't think it was. 1 plane went missing, so did an Air France flight over the Atlantic a few years ago.

The other flew over an active war zone and got shot down as a result. That's not bad luck, that's being stupid.

Not to get petty but it still makes it an bad year for aviation. Thats a lot of lives lost and the unknowns about MH 370 is truly terrifiying.

Captain Chaos

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

He didn't say it was bad luck. He said it was an awful year.

Same thing really.

JaMarcusHustle

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Same thing really.

Except it's not...?

beks101

Jesus christ. Another missing plane? WTF.

Just read this -

If all passengers were confirmed lost, it would take the 2014 air fatality count over 600, making it the deadliest year for aviation since 2010.

JaMarcusHustle

Reports of a plane crash in the ocean off the east coast of Belitung which - from my uninformed quick check on google maps - would appear to be in the middle of the flight path....

Taken from following link.

http://nasional.kompas.com/read/2014/12/28/10400961/Ada.Pesawat.yang.Jatuh.di.Perairan.Belitung.Timur

Google Translate wrote:

A plane reportedly crashed in the sea waters of East Belitung, Bangka Beltung, Sunday (28/12). It is not yet certain point the crash site.

"Did Mr. Danlanud phone Mr (Basuri), no information ngasi water plane bus crashed in the waters around Beltim," said Yuhinu, aide Regent Beltim Basuri T Purnama, when contacted bangkapos.com, Sunday (28/12).

Separated, Adj Polair Beltim AKP Yanto said, the information obtained from the directorate Polair Babylon, the approximate location of the waters of Babylon. But still confirmed the crash site.

"We are still coordinating with the directorate and collect information from fishermen and boats that pass Beltim waters," said AKP Yanto when contacted bangkapos.com.

Previously, QZ 8501 AirAsia aircraft reported missing on the way from Surabaya to Singapore this morning, Sunday (12/28/2014).

Director of Air Transport Ministry, Djoko Murjatmojo ensure that the aircraft lost in the radar. "Right now I'm in the post monitoring to wait for a variety of reports received," he said when confirmed Kompas.com.

He said, later the Ministry of Transportation will provide an official statement regarding the loss of the AirAsia plane. (Read: AirAsia aircraft from Surabaya to Singapore Reported Missing)

Meanwhile, citing data from Flightradar, missing AirAsia plane is an Airbus A320 with registration number PK-AXC. The plane took off from Surabaya at 5:20 am and arrived in Singapore should at 08.30 local time or 07.30. (

Edit: Some pretty bad thunderstorms in the area at that time too.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B56gCKECYAAEVwj.jpg

Egginacup

ceadaoin. wrote: »

It hasn't been a very good year for aviation. An air Asia flight has lost contact with air traffic control while flying over Indonesian air space.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30614627

John "Beaker Of Muppet Lab" Kerry is now gunning through his notes to announce that he has unshakeable proof that it was Putin?

"Quick! More sanctions against Russia. In fact sanctions against China for promising financial aid to the Russians suffering from the sanctions we imposed over another airliner that I have proof they brought down!"

Egginacup

Captain Chaos wrote: »

I don't think it was. 1 plane went missing, so did an Air France flight over the Atlantic a few years ago.

The other flew over an active war zone and got shot down as a result. That's not bad luck, that's being stupid.

To put in perspective we have had the worst year for road deaths in 10 years but that's not even on the news.

Stupid on the part of whom? The pilots who flew the plane or those on the ground who guided them?

Merkin

Hope they find the crash site/debris quickly. The horror of not doing so for those families lost on MH370 is unimaginable.

Kermit.de.frog

Merkin wrote: »

The horror of not doing so for those families lost on MH370 is unimaginable.

Why?

Merkin

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Why?

:rolleyes:

BlaasForRafa

Merkin wrote: »

Hope they find the crash site/debris quickly. The horror of not doing so for those families lost on MH370 is unimaginable.

Why do people care about the actual body once they know that the person is dead? Getting the body back doesn't make them any less dead.

Kermit.de.frog

Merkin wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Don't roll your eyes, i'm asking you why this would have any affect on them whatsoever.

NegativeCreep

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Why?

Yeah I don't really get that either.

supersean1999

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Don't roll your eyes, i'm asking you why this would have any affect on them whatsoever.

Ever heard of a funeral. Imagine wanting to use the actual dead person. Crazy stuff

Kermit.de.frog

supersean1999 wrote: »

Ever heard of a funeral. Imagine wanting to use the actually dead person. Crazy stuff

Bullsh!t. The other families couldn't give a toss and why should they? Absolute rubbish.

Get in to the real world.

Egginacup

The womble President of the world United States has been briefed.

Thanks for that CNN

supersean1999

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Bullsh!t. The other families couldn't give a toss and why should they? Absolute rubbish.

Get in to the real world.

Get some sleep.

Kermit.de.frog

supersean1999 wrote: »

Get some sleep.

I've had plenty. Now stop evading and answer the question. Why would the families of the Malaysian Airlines plane that went missing care about this?

Utter nonsense. Bulsh!t. Balderdash. Spiffle... what ever you want to call it.

Dj Stiggie

Egginacup wrote: »

John "Beaker Of Muppet Lab" Kerry is now gunning through his notes to announce that he has unshakeable proof that it was Putin?

"Quick! More sanctions against Russia. In fact sanctions against China for promising financial aid to the Russians suffering from the sanctions we imposed over another airliner that I have proof they brought down!"

Are you parodying yourself while trying to satirise John Kerry?

Canis Lupus

Egginacup wrote: »

John "Beaker Of Muppet Lab" Kerry is now gunning through his notes to announce that he has unshakeable proof that it was Putin?

"Quick! More sanctions against Russia. In fact sanctions against China for promising financial aid to the Russians suffering from the sanctions we imposed over another airliner that I have proof they brought down!"

Holy sh*t... Could you not spew anti American crap in at least one thread?

My name is URL

It was hacked by North Korea apparently

Tarzana2

Captain Chaos wrote: »

I don't think it was. 1 plane went missing, so did an Air France flight over the Atlantic a few years ago.

The Air France crash location was quickly ascertained. No big mystery like MH370.

osarusan

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I've had plenty. Now stop evading and answer the question. Why would the families of the Malaysian Airlines plane that went missing care about this?

Utter nonsense. Bulsh!t. Balderdash. Spiffle... what ever you want to call it.

You're not reading it right - that's not what the poster is saying.

The families of those on the Malaysian Airlines flight suffered through not being able to bury their loved ones.

He/She hopes that the crash site* is located quickly, so the families of those on this flight don't suffer in the same way.



*let's hope that somehow there is no crash at all.

Pat D. Almighty

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

Why do people care about the actual body once they know that the person is dead? Getting the body back doesn't make them any less dead.

I hope you're asking yourself that question.

Tarzana2

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I've had plenty. Now stop evading and answer the question. Why would the families of the Malaysian Airlines plane that went missing care about this?

I think Merkin meant how awful it was for the families of MH370 when MH370 went missing, and that it will be another set of families going through the same with this flight if it's lost. That's how I read it anyway.

seventeen sheep

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I've had plenty. Now stop evading and answer the question. Why would the families of the Malaysian Airlines plane that went missing care about this?

Utter nonsense. Bulsh!t. Balderdash. Spiffle... what ever you want to call it.

As pointed out in the post above, you completely misinterpreted what was being said ... she meant that it was horrific for the families on the Malaysian Airlines plane; that they never got to have proper funerals etc ... and that it would be awful if similar happened again.

Having said that, even interpreting it the way you did, I think it's to be expected that the families of the other recent plane crash might have more than a passing interest in another major event like this ... and that, considering what they've been through, that they'd have a lot of empathy for the families of the victims of this incident, and that they'd hope for the bodies to be retrieved as soon as possible.

Sclosages

When they say 'missing', is it gone missing like the other one? i.e. no trace on radar?

the_monkey

beks101 wrote: »

Jesus christ. Another missing plane? WTF.

Just read this -

Yeah imagine the worldwide stats on road deaths so far this year ???

100k + maybe ???????

supersean1999

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I've had plenty. Now stop evading and answer the question. Why would the families of the Malaysian Airlines plane that went missing care about this?

Utter nonsense. Bulsh!t. Balderdash. Spiffle... what ever you want to call it.

Ooooops

bilston

Egginacup wrote: »

John "Beaker Of Muppet Lab" Kerry is now gunning through his notes to announce that he has unshakeable proof that it was Putin?

"Quick! More sanctions against Russia. In fact sanctions against China for promising financial aid to the Russians suffering from the sanctions we imposed over another airliner that I have proof they brought down!"

I doubt it

Tugboats

I was waiting for the post Christmas grief thread and we finally have it.

RobertKK

Looks like a thunderstorm brought the plane down. They formed quickly, the pilots looks to divert but couldn't avoid the thunderstorm so was rising to try and avoid it but the thunderstorm that formed went to 52,000ft, and the plane was at 32,000ft looking to go to 38,000ft when contact was lost.

auldgranny

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

Why do people care about the actual body once they know that the person is dead? Getting the body back doesn't make them any less dead.

My child died years ago and it would have upset me something terrible not to have a body to bury. People have died here. Stop making stupid points to try make yourself look smarter.

Highflyer13

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

Why do people care about the actual body once they know that the person is dead? Getting the body back doesn't make them any less dead.

Closure. Its part of the grieving process. You may not think it but it would have an affect on you if you didn't know where the body of your loved one was after suddenly vanishing of the earth.

The Bould Rabbit

Awful year for aviation.

Not looking too good in the sea between Greece and Italy either.

Sky News is keeping us updated with all the latest news tweets.

Specialun

Afterhours; a thread on a nissing plane

3 pages in and weve had a debate on whether people like to have funerals and anti american posts

You have to laugh

castletownman

My heart skipped two beats when I heard this story this morning. My brother, my cousin and five others departed for Thailand in the early hours yesterday. As harsh as it sounds towards the casualties, thankfully it wasn't my brother's plane. He is probably living it up on a beach somewhere oblivious to it.

Sclosages

Again no mayday call? What is this 'icing' that some dude was on about. He said it happened to MH370.

FouxDaFaFa

the_monkey wrote: »

Yeah imagine the worldwide stats on road deaths so far this year ???

100k + maybe ???????

Yeah and cancer is terrible too and claims a lot of lives.

But neither of them are the topic of this thread.

Some people seem to have an issue talking about anything without claiming it's at the expense of something else.

Joeythepirate

auldgranny wrote: »

My child died years ago and it would have upset me something terrible not to have a body to bury. People have died here. Stop making stupid points to try make yourself look smarter.

This us Christians care greatly about burring the body, just cause you heritics don't doesn't mean the rest of us good people don't

SpaceSasqwatch

Joeythepirate wrote: »

This us Christians care greatly about burring the body, just cause you heritics don't doesn't mean the rest of us good people don't

Anyone got a degree in linguistics to decipher this?

auldgranny

Joeythepirate wrote: »

This. We Christians care greatly about burying the body. Just because you heritics don't care it doesn't mean the rest of us good people don't care

This maybe?

Not agreeing with sentiments of post.

KungPao

FouxDaFaFa wrote: »

Yeah and cancer is terrible too and claims a lot of lives.

But neither of them are the topic of this thread.

Some people seem to have an issue talking about anything without claiming it's at the expense of something else.

Ehhh you didnt even mention the problems in Iraq.

You're so insenstive.

In fact, post reported.

Joeythepirate

auldgranny wrote: »

This maybe?

Not agreeing with sentiments of post.

Thanks english is not my first language

auldgranny

Joeythepirate wrote: »

Thanks english is not my first language

That's ok. It wasn't really in English. Love your username.