Scumbag dies of OD in prison

Foxhound38

Just read an article in the Indo saying he killed a guy leaving a nightclub in an unprovoked attack (with 85 previous convictions at the time, because it's Ireland and of course he had :rolleyes:) so my sympathy is limited to say the least, but how are these jailbirds even getting so many drugs? How are such substances even finding their way into the prisons in the first place?

Shiraz 4.99

If I'd my way I'd make sure the cleanest non-cut heroin was made freely available to every one of his kind.
There's probably some legal liberal argument against this but I can't think of one.

crazygeryy

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darkdubh

This guy was smirking in front of his victims family as he was sentenced.They should dump his corpse in the nearest boghole and leave him to the rats.

Foxhound38

darkdubh wrote: »

This guy was smirking in front of his victims family as he was sentenced.They should dump his corpse in the nearest boghole and leave him to the rats.

Fcuk him, to be honest - absolute scum of the earth. My only regret is that he got to take the easy way out instead of rotting in prison for a few more years.

Cee-Jay-Cee

Foxhound38 wrote: »

How are such substances even finding their way into the prisons in the first place?

Because this is Ireland and the prisons are outdated overcrowded not fit for purpose ****holes and far from being secure.

Greenmachine

Awaits a swathe of red cards.

um7y1h83ge06nx

I'm usually not one for such a populist hang 'em all type of thread like this but you would want to be some tree hugger, or total scumbag yourself, to defend this sub human.

One less mouth to feed and take care of.

kneemos

Greenmachine wrote: »

Awaits a swathe of red cards.

Wishing death on someone is fine as long as they have the appropriate number of convictions.

Billy86

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

Because this is Ireland and the prisons are outdated overcrowded not fit for purpose ****holes and far from being secure.

Good thing other countries don't have drugs in their prisons.

Foxhound38

kneemos wrote: »

Wishing death on someone is fine as long as they have the appropriate number of convictions.

And committed murder in an unprovoked attack on some lad just trying to get home from a night out, then dancing over the body and smirking at the victims family in court, while carrying said convictions.

Fcuk him, he's a waste of oxygen and a total scumbag.

DellyBelly

Billy86 wrote: »

Good thing other countries don't have drugs in their prisons.

If you think that's true you must be living in cuckoo land. Its a problem is prisons all over the world!

Banjo String

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7l8dx-h8M

Billy86

DellyBelly wrote: »

If you think that's true you must be living in cuckoo land. Its a problem is prisons all over the world!

That... was... kind of my.... oh never mind!

Tarzana2

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Just read an article in the Indo saying he killed a guy leaving a nightclub in an unprovoked attack (with 85 previous convictions at the time, because it's Ireland and of course he had :rolleyes:) so my sympathy is limited to say the least, but how are these jailbirds even getting so many drugs? How are such substances even finding their way into the prisons in the first place?

I lived next to one of our nation's fine prisons for 5 years. From what I observed, the methods can be quite crude. Saw people attempting to fling packages over the wall on many occasions. The walls was high and there was netting above that, but I'd say occasionally they were successful.

sunshine and showers

He's still somebody's scumbag at the end of the day. RIP.

Axel Lamp

Read that myself this morning and it cheered me up, I really hope it was a long agonising death.

marienbad

Axel Lamp wrote: »

Read that myself this morning and it cheered me up, I really hope it was a long agonising death.

Grow up

Super-Rush

The really funny bit in all this is that out of those 85 convictions, 10 were for assault.

Justice system me hole.

Un Croissant

Good, good , good, good, good.

The town was mental after that attack..

I await the horse drawn hearse through the town and the 'mi angle' statuses.

jacksie66

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Foxhound38

sunshine and showers wrote: »

He's still somebody's scumbag at the end of the day. RIP.

The victim impact statement from the mother of the guy he decided to kill for absolutely no reason other than the fact that he was drunk and high off his tits:

We will never forget the phone call from Clonmel hospital to tell us that our son was gravely ill and to get there as quickly as possible, the nightmare drive, to see him lying there attached to machines – the life gone out of him.

The week before he died he had told me he was so happy and we knew it. He loved his job, his lovely girlfriend Fiona, his friends and he had everything to live for.

Now we have to live without him. I can't put down in words how hard that is. An illness or an accident would be hard enough, but to lose your son like this is devastating and unbearable. Every day is a nightmare.

The pain and loss is terrible. It is so hard to carry on without him.

He was born on October 3, 1986 – a joy to us all. He was always smiling, so happy. I feel so robbed that I will never be a granny to his children and he would have been a wonderful dad.

His life was not in vain, when he died he gave life to six people as his organs were donated, that was his wish. James was that kind, thinking of others.

I want you all to know what one punch can do – it takes a life. It leaves us to live our lives in darkness now, as the light left us when James died.

Our recently departed scumbag sat there making faces and smirking as this was read out. Fcuk him, he should have been strung up by the balls. How he was out on bail at the time of the murder, with 85 previous convictions by the age of 23 is absolutely beyond me. :mad:

howamidifferent

WTF?

"In an unrelated incident, three other prisoners at the prison were brought to hospital in a comatose state after drinking too much home-made alcohol."

sunshine and showers

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Our recently departed scumbag sat there making faces and smirking as this was read out. Fcuk him, he should have been strung up by the balls. How he was out on bail at the time of the murder, with 85 previous convictions by the age of 23 is absolutely beyond me. :mad:

It's more the people he leaves behind that I feel sorry for. I also don't tend to wish death on people, even when they have killed someone, as it seems a bit hypocritical, really. I'm not one for that "eye-for-an-eye" bs.

Yes, he sounds like he was a scumbag, but let's not have the total disregard for human life that he appears to have had.

Jester252

sunshine and showers wrote: »

It's more the people he leaves behind that I feel sorry for. I also don't tend to wish death on people, even when they have killed someone, as it seems a bit hypocritical, really. I'm not one for that "eye-for-an-eye" bs.

Yes, he sounds like he was a scumbag, but let's not have the total disregard for human life that he appears to have had.

No one here assaulted 10 people, killed one and OD. Some comments on a website don't equal to the disregard this scum had for human life.

Not everyone who dies is an angle, there is nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade.

chrysagon

Frees up space...let the lot of them over dose!

Cantremember

The only tragedy here is that this happened four years too late for James Tynan and his family.

Rubberchikken

i'm neither a tree hugger nor a scumbag but i fail to derive any satisfaction from anyone's death.

having some prison authority and some garda authority investigate these deaths and the off chance that there are any drugs available in our prisons is a bit of a joke.

that's the equivelent of the fox counting the hens.

freewheeler

sunshine and showers wrote: »

He's still somebody's scumbag at the end of the day. RIP.

RIP? no...will save that for decent human beings...like the poor innocent person he murdered. The planet is a better place without this scumbag.

Terrontress

It suits the prison authorities to have them all high. They get in fewer fights, make less noise of they are nodding on heroin.

This is just the consequence of if.

CrazyRabbit

He go the drugs the same way they get phones and other prohibited drugs into the prison...via a corrupt prison guard.

bjork

Drugs keep the prisoners calm. We can't be having riots.

dixiefly

DellyBelly wrote: »

If you think that's true you must be living in cuckoo land. Its a problem is prisons all over the world!

You need a lesson on understanding basic irony!

The Hill Billy

jacksie66 wrote: »

Waiting for all the PC do gooders to rock on to this thread..

Just because some people have a shred of decency & don't lower themselves to become pond-scum keyboard warriors slagging off someone's dead son, brother, dad, husband, lover - that doesn't make them a "PC do-gooder."

ch750536

The Hill Billy wrote: »

Just because some people have a shred of decency & don't lower themselves to become pond-scum keyboard warriors slagging off someone's dead son, brother, dad, husband, lover - that doesn't make them a "PC do-gooder."

Just checked wikipedia - it does.

newmug

Here's what needs to be done. If the following was implemented, that fella would still be inside for conviction number 1 right now, and James Tynan would still be alive:




1) Build a massive underground jail, the biggest jail in the world, fit to hold 1 million people.

2) Put every joyriding, junkie, fraudster, banker, paedophile, illegal immigrant, shoplifting, lying politicians, dishonest, violent scumbag in Ireland into it.

3) Take in prisoners from other countries. Charge the other countries for keeping their scum. This will keep more good people of the world safe, dilute crime levels worldwide, and help our economy.

4) Have treadmills in the jail. Make the scum run on them and generate electricity.

5) Sell the electricity, which will not only boost our economy evenfurther, but will help the global warming crisis aswell.

6) Scrap all previous laws, and start from scratch. Publish a book called "The Law". Make it available to everybody in Ireland. Teach it in schools. Leave no excuse for criminal behaviour.

7) In this book, state the sentences. Rape of children = rest of your life in jail. Not 4 years with 2 suspended, not 18 months and a donation to charity, minimum of 100 years just to be sure. Same for dealing drugs. This is both as a punishment, and to keep criminals away from normal people. Normal people dont rob, do drugs, or rape. Also, longer sentences = more electricity produced.

8) Aim to build a society which mimics that of "The Girl From Tomorrow". The only people who should be walking around freely are those responsible enough to know how to use their freedom properly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVS37...eature=related

Wibbs

Foxhound38 wrote: »

How he was out on bail at the time of the murder, with 85 previous convictions by the age of 23 is absolutely beyond me. :mad:

This is the part which never ceases to amaze and anger me and it's near a given when such stories come up. X amount of previous convictions/out on bail etc. This is what we really should be angry about and remind every doorstepping politician come election times.

twowheelsonly

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Just read an article in the Indo saying he killed a guy leaving a nightclub in an unprovoked attack (with 85 previous convictions at the time, because it's Ireland and of course he had :rolleyes:) so my sympathy is limited to say the least, but how are these jailbirds even getting so many drugs? How are such substances even finding their way into the prisons in the first place?

Every jail in the world has drugs in it. Have you ever seen the size of a wrap of heroin/cocaine or whatever?? They don't come packed like sugar with a big 'DRUGS' label on the outside. Use your imagination as to how they manage to smuggle them in..
It's a bit like the question 'how do drugs even get into the country..'

Terrontress wrote: »

It suits the prison authorities to have them all high. They get in fewer fights, make less noise of they are nodding on heroin.

This is just the consequence of if.

Total and utter BS.

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

He go the drugs the same way they get phones and other prohibited drugs into the prison...via a corrupt prison guard.

You should really go straight to the Gardai with that information that you seem to have. Yes, it does and has happened in the past - 3 convicted in the last 10 years out of 3000+ staff but it's nowhere near as common as you'd make it out.
Staff are searched on the way into work as well, using both metal detectors and dogs. Staff are also banned from bringing their own phones in - it's actually a sackable offence.

Wibbs

Wibbs wrote: »

This is the part which never ceases to amaze and anger me and it's near a given when such stories come up. X amount of previous convictions/out on bail etc. This is what we really should be angry about and remind every doorstepping politician come election times.

The sad fact is that we don't have enough prisons for them to be put in, so they're bailed.

We need at least another remand centre for these scummers.

The only way to stop drugs getting in would be to have "no contact" visitor centres at all prisons like the ones in Cloverhill, but they're expensive.

Cantremember

The Hill Billy wrote: »

Just because some people have a shred of decency & don't lower themselves to become pond-scum keyboard warriors slagging off someone's dead son, brother, dad, husband, lover - that doesn't make them a "PC do-gooder."

It's alright to slag off the living though who still have sons and daughters brothers dads and mothers and lovers though isn't it? You can call them pond scum. You can call them keyboard warriors while you do the same thing: pound out condemnation of what are probably law abiding people trying to get by. You can do that from Bern. Isn't that it? One law for some, a different law for those who dish out the beatings and the brutality and a good dose of hypocritical condescension from a CMOD. Thanks.

better call saul

newmug wrote: »

Here's what needs to be done. If the following was implemented, that fella would still be inside for conviction number 1 right now, and James Tynan would still be alive:




1) Build a massive underground jail, the biggest jail in the world, fit to hold 1 million people.

2) Put every joyriding, junkie, fraudster, banker, paedophile, illegal immigrant, shoplifting, lying politicians, dishonest, violent scumbag in Ireland into it.

3) Take in prisoners from other countries. Charge the other countries for keeping their scum. This will keep more good people of the world safe, dilute crime levels worldwide, and help our economy.

4) Have treadmills in the jail. Make the scum run on them and generate electricity.

5) Sell the electricity, which will not only boost our economy evenfurther, but will help the global warming crisis aswell.

6) Scrap all previous laws, and start from scratch. Publish a book called "The Law". Make it available to everybody in Ireland. Teach it in schools. Leave no excuse for criminal behaviour.

7) In this book, state the sentences. Rape of children = rest of your life in jail. Not 4 years with 2 suspended, not 18 months and a donation to charity, minimum of 100 years just to be sure. Same for dealing drugs. This is both as a punishment, and to keep criminals away from normal people. Normal people dont rob, do drugs, or rape. Also, longer sentences = more electricity produced.

8) Aim to build a society which mimics that of "The Girl From Tomorrow". The only people who should be walking around freely are those responsible enough to know how to use their freedom properly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVS37...eature=related

If you ever run for politics let me know

cloud493

Not that I've got oodles of sympathy for a creature such as this, but he was still somebodies son, brother, whatever, and I'd hope people would understand thats what done is and dancing on his grave means nothing now, cant change what he's done.

chrysagon

Deleted User wrote: »

The sad fact is that we don't have enough prisons for them to be put in, so they're bailed.

We need at least another remand centre for these scummers.

we dont need more prisons... just fit more in a cell...they aint there for comfort..

Amirani

sunshine and showers wrote: »

It's more the people he leaves behind that I feel sorry for. I also don't tend to wish death on people, even when they have killed someone, as it seems a bit hypocritical, really. I'm not one for that "eye-for-an-eye" bs.

If his family hadn't disowned him at this point there's probably something wrong. If one of my relatives had taken joy in inflicting this sort of immense suffering on others, I'd despise them.

chrysagon

chrysagon wrote: »

we dont need more prisons... just fit more in a cell...they aint there for comfort..

They're three to a cell in Cloverhill already, still more spacious than some of the cheapest room shares in Dublin.

Cantremember

cloud493 wrote: »

Not that I've got oodles of sympathy for a creature such as this, but he was still somebodies son, brother, whatever, and I'd hope people would understand thats what done is and dancing on his grave means nothing now, cant change what he's done.

Not dancing can't change anything either. In fact, nothing can bring back James Tynan. RIP.

cloud493

Dancing on his grave archives nothing no?

myshirt

newmug wrote: »

Here's what needs to be done. If the following was implemented....

1) Build a massive underground jail, the biggest jail in the world, fit to hold 1 million people.

2) Put every joyriding, junkie, fraudster, banker, paedophile, illegal immigrant, shoplifting, lying politicians, dishonest, violent scumbag in Ireland into it.

3) Take in prisoners from other countries. Charge the other countries for keeping their scum. This will keep more good people of the world safe, dilute crime levels worldwide, and help our economy.

4) Have treadmills in the jail. Make the scum run on them and generate electricity....


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Are you basically saying we cordon off Leitrim and use it as a bomb test site cum wasteland prison facility... you may be on to something here...

Cantremember

cloud493 wrote: »

Dancing on his grave archives nothing no?

Not dancing achieves nothing no?

Amirani

cloud493 wrote: »

Not that I've got oodles of sympathy for a creature such as this, but he was still somebodies son, brother, whatever, and I'd hope people would understand thats what done is and dancing on his grave means nothing now, cant change what he's done.

Yep, that would be pointless. I don't understand the moral indignation from certain parts when some posters have said that his death is probably a good thing. It probably is, for both his family and wider society. He's probably caused just as much anguish to both in his miserable life.