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Adopting a puppy without vacinations?

  • 28-12-2014 10:40pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,814 ✭✭✭


    Thinking of adopting a puppy (4-5 month old). Hasn't had any vacinations.
    At first contact presumed it would have been done.
    Is this a big no?

    Advice greatly appreciated.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,326 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Depends; are you adopting from a private person or from a rescue and what's the adoption fee... It's obviously not a good sign but itself but it could also be a person who's clueless on how to handle puppies and simply did not get them any shots or it could be a puppy farmer trying to get rid of the last dog in the batch they could not sell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭SillyMangoX


    Big big no. If you were sourcing the pup from a reputable breeder or rescue, vaccinations are the minimum you would expect to have done. If they haven't been vaccinated, I would wonder what other things haven't been done eg health testing parents if it's a breeder, or even routine worming. I'd look elsewhere to be honest!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,814 ✭✭✭dobsdave


    Nody wrote: »
    Depends; are you adopting from a private person or from a rescue and what's the adoption fee... It's obviously not a good sign but itself but it could also be a person who's clueless on how to handle puppies and simply did not get them any shots or it could be a puppy farmer trying to get rid of the last dog in the batch they could not sell.

    Its a private person, no cost.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,814 ✭✭✭dobsdave


    Big big no. If you were sourcing the pup from a reputable breeder or rescue, vaccinations are the minimum you would expect to have done. If they haven't been vaccinated, I would wonder what other things haven't been done eg health testing parents if it's a breeder, or even routine worming. I'd look elsewhere to be honest!


    Thanks, Id say nothing has been done.
    Just needed another opinion to confirm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭VonVix


    Out of curiosity, what breed?

    I would avoid at all costs, aside from the reasons given above, the first thought in my head is that this puppy has not gotten out of the house much for walks (if vaccinations weren't ever considered, I wouldn't imagine being taken for walks is much either!) or had many new experiences, and at 4-5 months of age you'd be getting a puppy who is at (and beginning to go past) a critical stage in their development when it comes to socialising them. I wouldn't be surprised you'd have a skittish mess of a puppy on your hands depending on the breed, and a lot more work to do to get it accustomed to normal every day situations aside from just getting the puppy vaccinated.

    I don't know how much of the above would apply to you and this puppy, but it's just my first thoughts of the situation!

    [Dog Training + Behaviour Nerd]



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,814 ✭✭✭dobsdave


    VonVix wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, what breed?

    I would avoid at all costs, aside from the reasons given above, the first thought in my head is that this puppy has not gotten out of the house much for walks (if vaccinations weren't ever considered, I wouldn't imagine being taken for walks is much either!) or had many new experiences, and at 4-5 months of age you'd be getting a puppy who is at (and beginning to go past) a critical stage in their development when it comes to socialising them. I wouldn't be surprised you'd have a skittish mess of a puppy on your hands depending on the breed, and a lot more work to do to get it accustomed to normal every day situations aside from just getting the puppy vaccinated.

    I don't know how much of the above would apply to you and this puppy, but it's just my first thoughts of the situation!

    j russell cross, thanks for replying, your points are very valid.
    Our search goes on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭SillyMangoX


    dobsdave wrote: »
    j russell cross, thanks for replying, your points are very valid.
    Our search goes on.

    Where about are you and what kind of dog are you looking for? Someone may know of some rescues in your area who would have suitable dogs which would be vaccinated, wormed and microchipped already before they rehome them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭sotisme


    There are plenty of puppies looking for homes, where are you based? I'm fostering two female mixed breed pups (mother was a jrt, father unknown) for a large animal rescue in dublin, I will attach pictures of them. They will be heading back to the rescue on the 5th Jan (will be 10 weeks old) and are fully vaccinated so will be ready for rehoming! They are almost fully toilet trained, lead trained and well socialised and behaved (and absoloutely stunning, needless to say!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,814 ✭✭✭dobsdave


    sotisme wrote: »
    There are plenty of puppies looking for homes, where are you based? I'm fostering two female mixed breed pups (mother was a jrt, father unknown) for a large animal rescue in dublin, I will attach pictures of them. They will be heading back to the rescue on the 5th Jan (will be 10 weeks old) and are fully vaccinated so will be ready for rehoming! They are almost fully toilet trained, lead trained and well socialised and behaved (and absoloutely stunning, needless to say!)

    Im in Celbridge, but can travel anywhere.
    Where are those two lovely puppies from? as in where are you? :)

    Edit: I see you're in Dublin, would it possible to call over or would it be better to deal with the rescue itself?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Personally I wouldn't adopt an unvaccinated dog. As well as the problems mentioned upthread they may be a ticking time bomb, medically speaking, and could cost huge vet's bills.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,079 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    sotisme wrote: »
    There are plenty of puppies looking for homes, where are you based? I'm fostering two female mixed breed pups (mother was a jrt, father unknown) for a large animal rescue in dublin, I will attach pictures of them. They will be heading back to the rescue on the 5th Jan (will be 10 weeks old) and are fully vaccinated so will be ready for rehoming! They are almost fully toilet trained, lead trained and well socialised and behaved (and absoloutely stunning, needless to say!)

    Search over!!
    OP, you have to have those puppies!
    Sure, two are no more trouble than one!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Search over!!
    OP, you have to have those puppies!
    Sure, two are no more trouble than one!

    Puppies are! You have to take a lot of care that they bond with you because two pups can come to form their own little pack, be difficult to train, and can feed off any nervousness/aggression towards other dogs. Not to mention twice the chewing on the sofa and twice the weeing on the carpet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭VonVix


    kylith wrote: »
    Puppies are! You have to take a lot of care that they bond with you because two pups can come to form their own little pack, be difficult to train, and can feed off any nervousness/aggression towards other dogs. Not to mention twice the chewing on the sofa and twice the weeing on the carpet.

    As an owner of siblings, this, almighty God, this!

    [Dog Training + Behaviour Nerd]



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭sotisme


    Sorry for late reply, I only just saw this. I Will send you a pm!

    And I agree with the last two posts, these two will definitely be rehomed seperately (google puppy sibiling/litter mate syndrome) http://paws4udogs.wordpress.com/2012/03/30/littermate-syndrome/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,814 ✭✭✭dobsdave


    sotisme wrote: »
    Sorry for late reply, I only just saw this. I Will send you a pm!

    And I agree with the last two posts, these two will definitely be rehomed seperately (google puppy sibiling/litter mate syndrome) http://paws4udogs.wordpress.com/2012/03/30/littermate-syndrome/

    Much appreciated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    sotisme wrote: »
    Sorry for late reply, I only just saw this. I Will send you a pm!

    And I agree with the last two posts, these two will definitely be rehomed seperately (google puppy sibiling/litter mate syndrome) http://paws4udogs.wordpress.com/2012/03/30/littermate-syndrome/

    Just when reading the comments for that remember that the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'. For just the first comment saying 'I have siblings and they're fine' you'll notice that they dogs have had to be separated at night as one growls when the other moves, and also exhibits resource guarding. I wouldn't exactly call that not having a problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,079 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    sotisme wrote: »
    Sorry for late reply, I only just saw this. I Will send you a pm!

    And I agree with the last two posts, these two will definitely be rehomed seperately (google puppy sibiling/litter mate syndrome) http://paws4udogs.wordpress.com/2012/03/30/littermate-syndrome/

    Oh, I thought you were keeping them together.
    Gorgeous little tykes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,814 ✭✭✭dobsdave


    Just as an update, we adopted Sophie from the <snip> on Friday.
    Shes the one on the left in sotisme photo.
    A wonderfull friendly puppy, full of life and very well behaved dog.
    I wouldn't hesitate to recommend <snip>, very well run, with the friendliest of people.
    And of course a huge thank you to sotisme who introduced us to our new puppy :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭sotisme


    dobsdave wrote: »
    Just as an update, we adopted Sophie from the <snip> on Friday.
    Shes the one on the left in sotisme photo.
    A wonderfull friendly puppy, full of life and very well behaved dog.
    I wouldn't hesitate to recommend <snip>, very well run, with the friendliest of people.
    And of course a huge thank you to sotisme who introduced us to our new puppy :D

    So thrilled that it worked out so well :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭VonVix


    kylith wrote: »
    Just when reading the comments for that remember that the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'. For just the first comment saying 'I have siblings and they're fine' you'll notice that they dogs have had to be separated at night as one growls when the other moves, and also exhibits resource guarding. I wouldn't exactly call that not having a problem.

    A lot of people seem to think their siblings/puppies are "fine" when they simply do not recognize the symptoms. Most people just think their dog is stubborn or it's their personality.
    dobsdave wrote: »
    Just as an update, we adopted Sophie from the <snip> on Friday.
    Shes the one on the left in sotisme photo.
    A wonderfull friendly puppy, full of life and very well behaved dog.
    I wouldn't hesitate to recommend <snip>, very well run, with the friendliest of people.
    And of course a huge thank you to sotisme who introduced us to our new puppy :D

    Amazing how you making such a simple thread turned into a life changing event. ;)

    [Dog Training + Behaviour Nerd]



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 731 ✭✭✭ene


    wow this thread really shows the power of boards.ie!!


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