Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15

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Dickerty wrote: »

Is he not cup tied?

Yeah played 30 minutes as a sub in round 3 against Southport.

Harry Palmr

8-10 wrote: »

The ones that come through like Rossiter and Ibe recently obviously hold a lot more interest. But I couldn't care less about how such and such a 16/17 yr old played in the U-21's last week or on loan at Brentford etc.

Rossiter did a leg in his last game, could be out for a while (ie rest of season), that's the sort of thing one knows when it happens if you keep an eye on the kids rather than wondering later "what happened to?" when he doesn't get included in a senior squad selection.

Dickerty

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Rossiter did a leg in his last game, could be out for a while (ie rest of season), that's the sort of thing one knows when it happens if you keep an eye on the kids rather than wondering later "what happened to?" when he doesn't get included in a senior squad selection.

I'm with ya Harry!

And when Adam Phillips starts in the Community Shield later this year (:D), we'll be two of the few that know anything about him! :cool:

Charlie19

Dickerty wrote: »

Coutinho should take them IMO, since he's not much of a threat in the box or around the edge.

Always confused me why more full backs don't take corners, for example, when they are often some of the best crossers...

I'd rather have someone to just thump it at goal than let Couthinio have a crack.

All the good attributes wee Phil has, shooting is not one of them.

8-10

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Rossiter did a leg in his last game, could be out for a while (ie rest of season), that's the sort of thing one knows when it happens if you keep an eye on the kids rather than wondering later "what happened to?" when he doesn't get included in a senior squad selection.

But I can just ask why isn't he involved and you can tell me

I just don't have the time, however I do do it for some of my other teams. For example I'll probably watch most of Red Sox spring training games and will keep tabs on our 'bigger' prospects at the minor league level throughout the season so when they get a call up to the Major roster or get used as a pawn in a trade I'll know where they're at and have the background stats on them. Essentially exactly the same thing, just can't be doing it for everything! I don't think Liverpool have the youth team to first team ratio at the same level, in soccer the players just seem to be bought in more than developed in-house. You'd essentially be watching the players of tomorrow, who will be playing for a different team!

MonkeyTennis

I really enjoy watching the youth games. They play very nice football.

LuckyLloyd

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

I really enjoy watching the youth games. They play very nice football.

UCD U19s play very nice football. Who gives a ****.

Harry Palmr

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

UCD U19s play very nice football. Who gives a ****.

No one unless they have an interest in how the UCD senior squad may play in the future. Why not accept that we're not all like you?

You know we really could do with an thumbs down "unthanks" button.

Kirby

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

UCD U19s play very nice football. Who gives a ****.

Harry Palmr wrote: »

No one unless they have an interest in how the UCD senior squad may play in the future. Why not accept that we're not all like you?

You know we really could do with an thumbs down "unthanks" button.

God no.

We already have to deal with one clique button. A second one would kill all notions of discussion. We would end up with a bunch of sycophantic, like minded people nodding in agreement with each other all day and we already have enough of that.

Haven't you ever used reddit? That's what happens when a downvote button exists.

Harry Palmr

:pac:

LuckyLloyd

Harry Palmr wrote: »

No one unless they have an interest in how the UCD senior squad may play in the future. Why not accept that we're not all like you?

You know we really could do with an thumbs down "unthanks" button.

I accept that, but I nonetheless reserve my right to express my opinion on a topic in a straightforward fashion.

Agent Coulson

Cortana is now able to predict who will win upcoming Barclays Premier League games.



http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/news/a626710/cortana-now-offers-predictions-on-the-barclays-premier-league.html#~p3lQfDex9HaSN8

Turtyturd

Meh, Cortana's dead to me after I had to endure rescuing her from the High Charity.

MonkeyTennis

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

UCD U19s play very nice football. Who gives a ****.

I like Liverpool. I like watching good football.

Its not complicated.

garra

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

UCD U19s play very nice football. Who gives a ****.

Yes indeed, if they aren't playing "winning" football, why bother - right?

Who gives a **** might be people who enjoying watching sport, rather than those who need the cosy camaraderie of a commercially driven leisure activity / marketing opportunity that we call football fandom..*

* I belong to both camps

Vanolder

The U21 and minor hurling championships are fantastic. It's not quite the same but college ball in the states is also brilliant to watch. I don't watch the academy teams much but only an idiot would not understand the draw to it. When I do watch it I always think the kids look a bit over coached tho- especially in comparison to the sports I just mentioned where there's a rawness to the game that makes it exciting. You get it in the F.A youth cup mind, which is always worth a watch. The ridiculous hyping of players however annoys the b a l l s off me... the new Steven Gerrard.... The Irish Messi....

rob316

What's the point of watching winning football if its not entertaining or exciting?

Devilman40k

rob316 wrote: »

What's the point of watching winning football if its not entertaining or exciting?

We didn't complain in 2001 with Houlliers dogs of war.

Harry Palmr

I'll bet Kolo starts a game before Balo does.

MD1990

Lovren & Balotelli not even on the bench for the cup. Can see both being sold in the summer.
Feel a little bit for Lovren as when he played he had no protection at all. He did play poor but I still think he is a good CB.

klose

MD1990 wrote: »

Lovren & Balotelli not even on the bench for the cup. Can see both being sold in the summer.

Both have been disasters, neither can complain about it tbf. Another 35 mill we look to have pissed away.

Turtyturd

Lovern may be salvageable in the current set up...Balotelli is a lost cause.

mosstin

Vanolder wrote: »

The U21 and minor hurling championships are fantastic. It's not quite the same but college ball in the states is also brilliant to watch. I don't watch the academy teams much but only an idiot would not understand the draw to it. When I do watch it I always think the kids look a bit over coached tho- especially in comparison to the sports I just mentioned where there's a rawness to the game that makes it exciting. You get it in the F.A youth cup mind, which is always worth a watch. The ridiculous hyping of players however annoys the b a l l s off me... the new Steven Gerrard.... The Irish Messi....

Jaysus, I must have missed this one.

klose

klose wrote: »

Both have been disasters, neither can complain about it tbf. Another 35 mill we look to have pissed away.

Ballotelli is done I'd say. Don't think he'll ever fit.

Lovern could still work. There were calls for Sakho to be sold a few months ago too. Markovik as well. Lovern played in the side when Gerrard was a defensive midfielder and the whole defensive system was a mess. I'd give him a pass for that reason.

MonkeyTennis

Mario is like reverse Chuck Norris

DaveSuarez

rob316 wrote: »

What's the point of watching winning football if its not entertaining or exciting?

Winning is all the excitement I need.

MR NINE

Lovren deserves another chance. He has been poor so far for liverpool but its still a relatively small amount of games and it was at a time when gerrard was our holding midfielder, mignolet was at his very worst and the entire team was playing poorly and shipping a lot of goals, cant blame it all on lovren. He'll have to be patient to wait for his chance, sakho can and skrtel are three of the first names on the teamsheet and rightly so. However, i wouldnt give up on lovren just yet, id happily keep him around as back up for the moment, he could yet prove his worth.

Is he not injured at the moment? I thought hed picked up a knock?

Fromvert

DaveSuarez wrote: »

Winning is all the excitement I need.

If fans only care about playing good football we'll turn into Spurs quickly enough. Winning matters most and I don't care how ugly and dogged we are to achieve that. Winning and playing 'nice' football is great but very hard to achieve outside of the very elite teams.

mosstin

If Lovren is being given another chance (and so he should) because the system (and staff) we were using at the time didn't suit him, why does Balotelli not deserve another chance now that Sturridge is back and we haven't seen what he's like with another quality striker on the pitch.
I get that his work ethic has been poor but if he'd been scoring a few goals this wouldn't have been as big an issue.

Turtyturd

mosstin wrote: »

If Lovren is being given another chance (and so he should) because the system (and staff) we were using at the time didn't suit him, why does Balotelli not deserve another chance now that Sturridge is back and we haven't seen what he's like with another quality striker on the pitch.
I get that his work ethic has been poor but if he'd been scoring a few goals this wouldn't have been as big an issue.

But who do you drop for him?

Agent Coulson

Turtyturd wrote: »

But who do you drop for him?

I'd leave the back 3 they way they are right now all 3 are playing well.

If Lovren is to be used I would like to see Lovren--Can--Sakho back 3.

I'm not Skrtel's biggest fan but he has done very well in this system and it would be hard on him to be dropped.

8-10

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I'd leave the back 3 they way they are right now all 3 are playing well.

If Lovren is to be used I would like to see Lovren--Can--Sakho back 3.

I'm not Skrtel's biggest fan but he has done very well in this system and it would be hard on him to be dropped.

I think he means who do you drop for Balotelli if he's to come in beside Danny?

mosstin

Turtyturd wrote: »

But who do you drop for him?

To be honest I don't particularly want to have him in the starting XI - he hasn't shown enough. I do think he deserves a place on the bench though and could be useful to come on in tandem with Sturridge.

SuperTortoise

Lovren has to stay on the bench until a drop in form from the current back three.

Dissapointd to see Allen start, is Lucas injured?

Agent Coulson

Turtyturd wrote: »

But who do you drop for him?

On Balotelli then .. If he was to come into the team the system would have to change back to a 4-4-2 to suit his strenghts.

Right now we need to stick to the system that is working and that's not 4-4-2 so he replaces some on the bench that's all.

SuperTortoise

SuperTortoise wrote: »

Dissapointd to see Allen start, is Lucas injured?

Allen more than capable to start against Bolton, Lucas has a slight injury, he gets a rest anyway.

bur

In the whole time Coutinho has been at the club, why has no one asked him to try curling the ball with the inside of his foot when he shoots?

Harry Palmr

Kolo is going to the Final!

The Mig

I know we've been generally poor but Gerrard or Allen should not be starting another game this season. Be it as a 2 together or with somebody else. 2 of them out for a stroll

Ulysses Gaze

Iago Aspas scores his second league goal in the last 2 games. Against Real Madrid at the Bernabeu.

Off the bench and putting Sevilla back in the game at 2-1.

Should do his confidence no end of good.

Agent Coulson

bur wrote: »

In the whole time Coutinho has been at the club, why has no one asked him to try curling the ball with the inside of his foot when he shoots?

jcsoulinger

bur wrote: »

In the whole time Coutinho has been at the club, why has no one asked him to try curling the ball with the inside of his foot when he shoots?

Boom

murpho999

I know people here will disect and criticise some aspects of tonight's performance but I think they played very well and coming back and winning like that can be a massive boost to confidence that can help in the remaining games.

LuckyLloyd

You play to win the game. Onwards.

Harry Palmr

Funny game that, Liverpool were getting better and better against 11 men but when Bolton went down to 10 all that was good became bad - Coutinho was the worst offender but Gerrard also poor. Instead of looking after possession and stretching tiring legs Liverpool starting shooting from silly places or attempting eye of the needle passes that were never really on.

Typical that it took the calm composure of a German to actually pick a perfect ball for Sterling to run on to. Emre Can is going to be massive - he has everything bar a slight lack of pace when he is pushed hard in a sprint.

rob316

Great comeback. The potential of our young attacking players is huge. Can is a worthy successor of the no. 23

djPSB

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

You play to win the game. Onwards.

And Rodgers gets slagged for the cheesy one liners :P

Agent Coulson

Being honest you can see the difference of not having Lucas in there breaking up play.


Allen and Gerrard are a horrible midfield partnership.

klose

Deserved win, games against lower league teams are often tricky affairs. Two goals of real quality tonight.
Can is a frightening talent.

retalivity

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

You play to win the game. Onwards.

I play to try out skills I saw watching an under 14s match.