Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15

super_furry

Yep West Ham win for me please. United are by no means guarenteed a Champions League place and I think it's two that are up for grabs rather than just one.

Agent Coulson

Utd will win..

Best result I think is a West Ham win.

Turtyturd

super_furry wrote: »

Yep West Ham win for me please. United are by no means guarenteed a Champions League place and I think it's two that are up for grabs rather than just one.

It's funny how the story that they had one sewn up began to be spoken like fact. Although after spending 200million you can see why their fans wanted to believe it was.

Charlie19

Harry Palmr wrote: »

So then....do we want a Utd win or a Utd win or a draw?

I'd be more worried about Utd getting a top four spot than the hammers, so I be happy enough with the score remaining the same.

niallo27

Turtyturd wrote: »

It's funny how the story that they had one sewn up began to be spoken like fact. Although after spending 200million you can see why their fans wanted to believe it was.

With their tactical genius how could they possibly fail.

Dub13

Plan on buying Liverpool Tickets on Done Deal, well have a read of this. Loads getting stung, so tag any Liverpool fan you know (and share it) lets help get the word out.

http://www.irishkop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23585

I put a link to this thread on our facebook page to try and help get the word out to none Irish Kop members. If you get a min tag any LFC fans you know on the post as most people these days use facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Irishkopcom/197642533606680

Gbear

For all the negativity after yesterday, it's not a disastrous result, particularly if Utd drop points.

We weren't going to win every game between now and the end of the season and I'd rather be dropping points in fairly tough away games than at home to Hull.
Not to mention that the manner of the dropped points wasn't us being systematically a shambles but rather a slightly wobbly choice in the first 11, the game management and being a little bit to casual.

It was always going to be tricky to get top 4 from such a low base, but we're still in the middle of an excellent run and, with Sturridge hopefully coming back to the first 11, we've every chance to keep it going.

delaney001

Point gained on arsenal and no loss on united. Not a brutal weekend by any stretch.

Agent Coulson

A must win game against Spurs on Tuesday.

Gerrard must not start the game.

Kirby

Agent Coulson wrote: »

A must win game against Spurs on Tuesday.

Gerrard must not start the game.

90 minutes against Everton. I think Rodgers will bench him.

JohnDaniels

Any news on Lucas or Coutinho today?

5starpool

Agent Coulson wrote: »

A must win game against Spurs on Tuesday.

Gerrard must not start the game.

It is, and he won't I'd say. Hopefully Coutinho and Lucas aren't too badly injured (I think someone said Coutinho had a tight muscle or something yesterday?). Any updates on them?

klose

Agent Coulson wrote: »

A must win game against Spurs on Tuesday.

Gerrard must not start the game.

Amen to that

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mig
Can--skrtel--sakho
Ibe-lucas-hendo-moreno
---sterling----coutinho

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sturridge

Is what i would like to see, if lucas is out i would look at bringing can into midfield and biting the bullet and give lovren a start....

brevity

Not a bad result in the Utd game.

Agent Coulson

klose wrote: »

Amen to that

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mig
Can--skrtel--sakho
Ibe-lucas-hendo-moreno
---sterling----coutinho

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sturridge

Is what i would like to see, if lucas is out i would look at bringing can into midfield and biting the bullet and give lovren a start....

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mig
Lovren--skrtel--sakho
Ibe-Can-hendo-moreno
---sterling----Lallana

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sturridge

If Coutinho & Lucas aren't fit I'd go with this.

Kerrigooney

I'm not surprised Rodgers didn't want Van Gaal as a DOF....he's looking like an absolute spoofer at the minute.

Turtyturd

Kerrigooney wrote: »

I'm not surprised Rodgers didn't want Van Gaal as a DOF....he's looking like an absolute spoofer at the minute.

Master of the long ball.

Kerrigooney

Turtyturd wrote: »

Master of the long ball.

Yep. They are horrible to watch. I won't bother again.

googled eyes

Kerrigooney wrote: »

I'm not surprised Rodgers didn't want Van Gaal as a DOF....he's looking like an absolute spoofer at the minute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DdLH75GKkc

Slattsy

Were we after a Falcao?
If we were we dodged a huge mistake there.

Think he's worse than Balotelli given the price tag. He's brutal.

8-10

Kerrigooney wrote: »

I'm not surprised Rodgers didn't want Van Gaal as a DOF....he's looking like an absolute spoofer at the minute.

Nonsense. I'd agree with not wanting him as DOF but that's because it's rarely a good idea to have one. But van Gaal is a very very competent coach

Gbear

Gbear wrote: »

For all the negativity after yesterday, it's not a disastrous result, particularly if Utd drop points.

We weren't going to win every game between now and the end of the season and I'd rather be dropping points in fairly tough away games than at home to Hull.
Not to mention that the manner of the dropped points wasn't us being systematically a shambles but rather a slightly wobbly choice in the first 11, the game management and being a little bit to casual.

It was always going to be tricky to get top 4 from such a low base, but we're still in the middle of an excellent run and, with Sturridge hopefully coming back to the first 11, we've every chance to keep it going.

Indeed, all to play for yet, I do think Liverpool will stride on purposely to the end of the season, no doubt dropping points along the way but I reckon top 4 will be within reach right to the end.

Agent Coulson

On Lucas..

Lucas Leiva will undergo a scan to determine the extent of the groin injury that forced him out of the Merseyside derby after just 16 minutes on Saturday evening.

At least it's not a knee injury.

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/179659-reds-to-assess-lucas-injury-problem

klose

8-10 wrote: »

Nonsense. I'd agree with not wanting him as DOF but that's because it's rarely a good idea to have one. But van Gaal is a very very competent coach

He's getting away with doing a pretty poor job tbf so far, obviously his cv is giving him leeway with the media.

monkey9

Slattsy wrote: »

Were we after a Falcao?
If we were we dodged a huge mistake there.

Think he's worse than Balotelli given the price tag. He's brutal.

He hasn't looked the same since that knee injury.

citytillidie

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Yep. They are horrible to watch. I won't bother again.

Might replay it, have to work at 3am for 3rd night in a row and need to get some sleep

Agent Coulson

Interesting look at Player Influence 2014/15 season stats so far for those who like stats.


http://www.anfield-online.co.uk/stats/lfc-player-influence.html

8-10

klose wrote: »

He's getting away with doing a pretty poor job tbf so far, obviously his cv is giving him leeway with the media.

Relative to what? Only City and Chelsea have lost less games. In my opinion regardless of how they're playing and the cup tragedies he's doing what he needed to and that's to make them a hard team to beat again.

Anyway I think his chance of moving to Liverpool has come and gone so moot point.

8-10

8-10 wrote: »

Nonsense. I'd agree with not wanting him as DOF but that's because it's rarely a good idea to have one. But van Gaal is a very very competent coach

I think he's a dinosaur, PL management is a tough gig, coming from an international role is not advantageous. He's doing little better at OT than Moyes did.

I reckon he will want to spend buckets of cash in the summer on defenders and forwards, there's no significant spine to the first 11 and I hope De Gea leaves.

VG has a mountain of work ahead

Harry Palmr

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Interesting look at Player Influence 2014/15 season stats so far for those who like stats.


http://www.anfield-online.co.uk/stats/lfc-player-influence.html

So then, we need more Borini and Enrique. Stats!

or to be serious

Leiva - 13-8-3-2-61.54-2.08 (PPG)

Agent Coulson

Harry Palmr wrote: »

So then, we need more Borini and Enrique. Stats!

Less Allen.. But we all new that

Sakho, Lucas & Can are well up there and our form has changed since they all came into the starting team.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Turtyturd wrote: »

It's funny how the story that they had one sewn up began to be spoken like fact. Although after spending 200million you can see why their fans wanted to believe it was.

They're a shoe-in for CL qualification, what with none of that silly european competition thing to bother their march to the title.

Or is that soooo last year?:)

murpho999

People criticising a manager like LVG with a proven winning track record shows me how knee-jerk many posters here are as they under-estimate the huge task he has at Old Trafford.

jesus_thats_gre

murpho999 wrote: »

People criticising a manager like LVG with a proven winning track record shows me how knee-jerk many posters here are as they under-estimate the huge task he has at Old Trafford.

Especially when said manager is a few points ahead of our own manager.

Agent Coulson

murpho999 wrote: »

People criticising a manager like LVG with a proven winning track record shows me how knee-jerk many posters here are as they under-estimate the huge task he has at Old Trafford.

He is the manager of the most dominat English team of the last 25 years who have a near unlimited budget.

He was also one of the most successful managers in world football over the last 25 years.

If that is a huge task I petty ever other manger in the league.

kfallon

Goal for Suarez, it breaks my heart every time

michael999999

kfallon wrote: »

Goal for Suarez, it breaks my heart every time

Lovely finish!

Fowler87

He would have gobbled up:pac: those chances created yesterday.

LuckyLloyd

murpho999 wrote: »

People criticising a manager like LVG with a proven winning track record shows me how knee-jerk many posters here are as they under-estimate the huge task he has at Old Trafford.

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Especially when said manager is a few points ahead of our own manager.

Yeah wtf?

murpho999

Agent Coulson wrote: »

He is the manager of the most dominat English team of the last 25 years who have a near unlimited budget.

He was also one of the most successful managers in world football over the last 25 years.

If that is a huge task I petty ever other manger in the league.

Of course it's a huge task considering where they were when he took over and what the expectations are. As you saw Moyes couldn't match up to it.

Anyway this is the LFC thread and I don't want to derail it.

My point is that too many posters are judging managers over a few games (LVG has had 24 league games!) and calling for heads etc far too quickly.

murpho999

murpho999 wrote: »

Of course it's a huge task considering where they were when he took over and what the expectations are. As you saw Moyes couldn't match up to it.

Anyway this is the LFC thread and I don't want to derail it.

My point is that too many posters are judging managers over a few games (LVG has had 24 league games!) and calling for heads etc far too quickly.

I don't think anyone is calling for his head
Pointing out some obvious mistakes is what is going on at the moment

whatawaster

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Yeah wtf?

He has Di Maria, Falcao, Rooney, Van Persie and Mata. That's probably the best attack in the league. He had as much money as he wanted to spend in the summer.

He has underperformed.

The fact that he is ahead of Liverpool is irrelevant to the discussion because a) Liverpool have also underperformed and b) Liverpool do not have as good a squad as LVG does at his disposal.

If he were not LVG (the big name, big record) then he would be getting far more criticism

Vicxas

That draw last night is even more bitter tasting now.

mrsoundie

whatawaster wrote: »

He has Di Maria, Falcao, Rooney, Van Persie and Mata. That's probably the best attack in the league. He had as much money as he wanted to spend in the summer.

He has underperformed.

The fact that he is ahead of Liverpool is irrelevant to the discussion because a) Liverpool have also underperformed and b) Liverpool do not have as good a squad as LVG does at his disposal.

If he were not LVG (the big name, big record) then he would be getting far more criticism

Paddy Power has a good blog on this, no doubt will be updated tomorrow.

rob316

Vicxas wrote: »

That draw last night is even more bitter tasting now.

I had in my head on friday we could be in touching distance of 4th in the space of a few days if this scenario played out.

Spurs beat arsenal
We beat Everton
West ham beat united
We beat spurs.

Golden opportunity pissed away by Rodgers and id be a big supporter of his.

Rayne Wooney

They're all spoofers Bill, the whole lot of them. Van Haal, Rooney, Falcoa, Di Mary

LuckyLloyd

whatawaster wrote: »

He has Di Maria, Falcao, Rooney, Van Persie and Mata. That's probably the best attack in the league. He had as much money as he wanted to spend in the summer.

He has underperformed.

The fact that he is ahead of Liverpool is irrelevant to the discussion because a) Liverpool have also underperformed and b) Liverpool do not have as good a squad as LVG does at his disposal.

If he were not LVG (the big name, big record) then he would be getting far more criticism

They're on course to qualify for the CL, they are making progress in one of the two cup competitions they were entered into. I'm not sure what the expectations were?!!

Kerrigooney

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

They're all spoofers Bill, the whole lot of them. Van Haal, Rooney, Falcoa, Di Mary

Nailed it. Well done you.

Kerrigooney

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

They're on course to qualify for the CL, they are making progress in one of the two cup competitions they were entered into. I'm not sure what the expectations were?!!

The Utd fans are used to good attacking football. I think after spending £170m(or whatever it was) they want more than hoofball up to Fellaini. I haven't seen them every week but I've seen quite a few games and even when they're winning,they're dire. If I was a Utd fan(shudder)I'd be well pissed off.

LuckyLloyd

Kerrigooney wrote: »

The Utd fans are used to good attacking football. I think after spending £170m(or whatever it was) they want more than hoofball up to Fellaini. I haven't seen them every week but I've seen quite a few games and even when they're winning,they're dire. If I was a Utd fan(shudder)I'd be well pissed off.

Oh well, I can't comment on that. Style of football is irrelevant imo. They penned West Ham back deeper and deeper this evening after Fellaini came on and the equaliser was a direct product of that approach.