Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15

OwaynOTT

rob316 wrote: »

Begovic is a keeper I really rate, he is strong, vocal and an excellent shot stopper. He is who we should have went for instead of the timid Mignolet in the first place. He would have cost about 5m more but once again we took the cheap option and have paid for it.

Mignolet is a good shot stopper too. We need more than that.

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Plus, he accurately lobs the ball from kick offs onto the chest of Jonny Walters up on the right wing 10 times a game so the assumption would be that he can use the ball well.

How's his short passing game and receiving the ball under pressure? And if we don't go for Walters too, I don't know who he will be lobbing the ball to on the right wing.


The one thing I miss about Reina was his quick release to set up counter attacks. Don't have that with Mig. Whether he is too timid to try it or people aren't making the runs.

Charlie19

I didn't think he was a Liverpool fan, its probably a spoof. Anyways he'd cost a fortune.

LuckyLloyd

OwaynOTT wrote: »

How's his short passing game and receiving the ball under pressure? And if we don't go for Walters too, I don't know who he will be lobbing the ball to on the right wing.

We don't know, there is no data. He plays for Stoke.

Liam O

Decent manager and all but has anyone ever called Rafa their hero? :P

NukaCola

Liam O wrote: »

Decent manager and all but has anyone ever called Rafa their hero? :P

MrAlan

:P

monkey9

Liam O wrote: »

Decent manager and all but has anyone ever called Rafa their hero? :P

I prefer the term 'messiah' myself.

Magico Gonzalez

Charlie19 wrote: »

I didn't think he was a Liverpool fan, its probably a spoof. Anyways he'd cost a fortune.

Carragher (via his twitter account) says we should get him for 12m. Don't know what he's smoking to be fair, Everton wouldn't sell us a signed barkley shirt for 12m.

Would be the ideal signing, can't see it happening sadly. At this stage I think we need upgrades on Lucas & Allen too.

Dayum

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

Carragher (via his twitter account) says we should get him for 12m. Don't know what he's smoking to be fair, Everton wouldn't sell us a signed barkley shirt for 12m.

Would be the ideal signing, can't see it happening sadly. At this stage I think we need upgrades on Lucas & Allen too.

These English players are overpriced....

Lallana wasn't worth 27m. Not the colour of it..

jcsoulinger

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

Carragher (via his twitter account) says we should get him for 12m. Don't know what he's smoking to be fair, Everton wouldn't sell us a signed barkley shirt for 12m.

Would be the ideal signing, can't see it happening sadly. At this stage I think we need upgrades on Lucas & Allen too.

Maybe he's smoking the top banter pipe?

Utopia Parkway

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

Carragher (via his twitter account) says we should get him for 12m. Don't know what he's smoking to be fair, Everton wouldn't sell us a signed barkley shirt for 12m.

Would be the ideal signing, can't see it happening sadly. At this stage I think we need upgrades on Lucas & Allen too.

Carra is just winding up the blues on twitter as usual. I'm amazed how many people have taken that seriously since.

NukaCola

Dayum wrote: »

These English players are overpriced....

Lallana wasn't worth 27m. Not the colour of it..

He didn't cost 27m but ya, he isn't and wasn't worth what we paid.

Vicxas

NukaCola wrote: »

He didn't cost 27m but ya, he isn't and wasn't worth what we paid.

Rarely has a Liverpool player been worth the money we forked out.

Talisman

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

Carragher (via his twitter account) says we should get him for 12m. Don't know what he's smoking to be fair, Everton wouldn't sell us a signed barkley shirt for 12m.

Would be the ideal signing, can't see it happening sadly. At this stage I think we need upgrades on Lucas & Allen too.

It wouldn't be like Jamie Carragher to say something to wind up the Everton fans.

NukaCola

Vicxas wrote: »

Rarely has a Liverpool player been worth the money we forked out.

Recent times anyway.

smileyj1987

Vicxas wrote: »

Rarely has a Liverpool player been worth the money we forked out.

I honestly do believe every club over pays for a player . You look at some of the fees players are going for now and it's nuts .

NukaCola

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

Carragher (via his twitter account) says we should get him for 12m. Don't know what he's smoking to be fair, Everton wouldn't sell us a signed barkley shirt for 12m.

Would be the ideal signing, can't see it happening sadly. At this stage I think we need upgrades on Lucas & Allen too.

Barkley is decent but completely over rated. He's probably as effective as Shelvey is but with a better footballing brain and a better player overall, however he doesn't really stamp his authority on a game enough. 20m + he certainly is not but I'm sure a Man City or a Chelsea would be stupid enough to spend that kind of money.

LuckyLloyd

Vicxas wrote: »

Rarely has a Liverpool player been worth the money we forked out.

Suarez
Torres
Arbeloa
Mascherano
Kuyt
Reina
Alonso
Hamman
Finnan
Riise
Hyppia

I'd go back and pay more for all of those players tbh.

Connavar

NukaCola wrote: »

Barkley is decent but completely over rated. He's probably as effective as Shelvey is but with a better footballing brain and a better player overall, however he doesn't really stamp his authority on a game enough. 20m + he certainly is not but I'm sure a Man City or a Chelsea would be stupid enough to spend that kind of money.

But what about the potential

smileyj1987

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Suarez
Torres
Arbeloa
Mascherano
Kuyt
Reina
Alonso
Hamman
Finnan
Riise
Hyppia

I'd go back and pay more for all of those players tbh.

The only downside to that is the fact that those transfers happened in the last 10 years or so .
I don't care how small or big a fee once the player proves their worth and has a great career for LFC .
The big thing that all those players had in common is the fact they gave their all for LFC . The club needs to start signing like that again . People like ballotelli seem to only in it for themselves and LFC need better then that .

LuckyLloyd

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Suarez
Torres
Arbeloa
Mascherano
Kuyt
Reina
Alonso
Hamman
Finnan
Riise
Hyppia

I'd go back and pay more for all of those players tbh.

Cracking team that!

Ganymede Glow

Luis Garcia for 6m was money well spent

K-9

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I think it's absolutely laughable that we're paying to bring him back early. Lille may be struggling and the team might not be setup perfectly for him blah, blah but it's very desperate altogether to throw him into the fray when the team is performing poorly imo.

Playing with Sterling as a striker is pretty damning when we've 4 CF's in the squad costing near £50 Million.

My suspicion is we wont see a new CF signing until the Summer and Mario is on his way out.

Dayum

Dayum wrote: »

These English players are overpriced....

Lallana wasn't worth 27m. Not the colour of it..

Lallana has scored 4 goals in 14 PL appearances, extrapulated to a season that's 10 goals a season territory, if he scores that and performs to the level he's been at since getting match fit over the next 3/4 seasons than in my book he was worth what he cost

LuckyLloyd

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Suarez
Torres
Arbeloa
Mascherano
Kuyt
Reina
Alonso
Hamman
Finnan
Riise
Hyppia

I'd go back and pay more for all of those players tbh.

You forgot Sturridge and Coutinho

Gbear

I liked this bit from Neil Atkinson's article on Gerrard:

There’s no cheat here. There’s no magic formula. You can’t even solve the problem by throwing money (we don’t have) at it. Chelsea haven’t replaced Lampard’s goals from midfield. They have all the money in the world and a ton of lads on loan. You find a new way, not look to replicate an old one. We won’t be replacing this Gerrard. That’s the reality. It’s OK though. Because no one else will be cloning him either.

Rest of it's here: http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2015/01/steven-gerrard-replacing-legend/

Liverpool Echo reporting that Origi is carrying a groin injury, not too serious they reckon.

He had an MRI scan on the injury today.

smileyj1987

Gbear wrote: »

I liked this bit from Neil Atkinson's article on Gerrard:



Rest of it's here: http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2015/01/steven-gerrard-replacing-legend/

Thats why this season has been tough to watch at times because the players at times aren't really sure what's going on at all . Br needs to bring a system in and go with for the rest of the season .

Dickerty

Ganymede Glow wrote: »

Luis Garcia for 6m was money well spent

Great return in terms of crucial goals, for sure.

No surprise the majority of those are Rafa signings?

smileyj1987

Dickerty wrote: »

Great return in terms of crucial goals, for sure.

No surprise the majority of those are Rafa signings?

Rafa was the type of manager if he got it right with a player he got it right !!! If it went wrong it went horribly wrong !!!

Ganymede Glow

He signed players more often than not based on their mentality. Strong minded players.

Didn't always work out mind you but it's impossible to get it 100% right with every player. With those players we were never really beaten until the whistle went.

Dickerty

smileyj1987 wrote: »

Thats why this season has been tough to watch at times because the players at times aren't really sure what's going on at all . Br needs to bring a system in and go with for the rest of the season .

Last season, we changed formation and strategy almost every other game during our winning run. Confidence plays a big part...

Sturridge ............. 25 year old English Striker...... bought for £12m two years ago

2012–13
Premier League
14 app
10 goals

2013–14
Premier League
29 app
21 goals

Even considering the injury record etc it looks like a fantastic return on investment.

MonkeyTennis

Can someone tell me why BBC MOTD are tweeting 'live' from the FA cup final between Liverpool and Wimbledon from in 1988

No Liverpool fan wants to hear about it and Im sure any Wimbledon fans have enjoyed that game plenty of times. Its all a bit weird

Turtyturd

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Can someone tell me why BBC MOTD are tweeting 'live' from the FA cup final between Liverpool and Wimbledon from in 1988

No Liverpool fan wants to hear about it and Im sure any Wimbledon fans have enjoyed that game plenty of times. Its all a bit weird

Didn't they do same with some other meaningless game last season?

smileyj1987

Dickerty wrote: »

Last season, we changed formation and strategy almost every other game during our winning run. Confidence plays a big part...

The thing about last season was the fact the manager had time to work with the players before games to get the formantions right . This season you really did need to go with one or two formations .
The amount of games compared to last year is a lot more .

brevity

Ganymede Glow wrote: »

He signed players more often than not based on their mentality. Strong minded players.

That's what I worry about when it comes to our squad.

It feels like we've bought players that have the "we've made it" attitude. That just getting the opportunity at Liverpool is their ceiling when it should be Liverpool + working your ****ing balls off + trophies.

Dayum

smileyj1987 wrote: »

The thing about last season was the fact the manager had time to work with the players before games to get the formantions right . This season you really did need to go with one or two formations .
The amount of games compared to last year is a lot more .

Only 6 more than last year...

Ste-

Dayum wrote: »

Only 6 more than last year...

So far.

jcsoulinger

Ganymede Glow wrote: »

He signed players more often than not based on their mentality. Strong minded players.

Didn't always work out mind you but it's impossible to get it 100% right with every player. With those players we were never really beaten until the whistle went.

Never really won anything big with those players either tho. The 05cl was before benitez put his stamp on the team.

Dickerty

Ganymede Glow wrote: »

He signed players more often than not based on their mentality. Strong minded players.

That is where someone like Toure and Lucas have helped on recent form. They get a game and they just play. No perceived pressure, like Lambert or Johnson would be under.

Would like to see us get Milner for a similar reason. He's just gets on with the job...

Dayum

Ste- wrote: »

So far.

Well I can't see UEFA letting Liverpool compete in the last 16 of the Champions League, can you?

Dayum

Dayum wrote: »

Well I can't see UEFA letting Liverpool compete in the last 16 of the Champions League, can you?

Europa League Dayum old boy

jcsoulinger

Dayum wrote: »

Well I can't see UEFA letting Liverpool compete in the last 16 of the Champions League, can you?

Ah Europa?

Nerdlingr

Dayum wrote: »

Well I can't see UEFA letting Liverpool compete in the last 16 of the Champions League, can you?

There's this other thing called the Europa League...

5starpool

Augeo wrote: »

Europa League Dayum old boy

Plus at least 5 league cup games vs 2 last year. We also only played 2 FA Cup matches last year, so even if we get knocked out in the next round of every cup (quite possible although I'd hope we can beat Wimbledon), we'd have played 10 more games this season than last.

Turtyturd

Europa league isn't well known in Brazil.

5starpool

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Can someone tell me why BBC MOTD are tweeting 'live' from the FA cup final between Liverpool and Wimbledon from in 1988

No Liverpool fan wants to hear about it and Im sure any Wimbledon fans have enjoyed that game plenty of times. Its all a bit weird

Romance of the cup innit?

Wimbledon played far above the sum of their parts for years of course (not to mention their budget), but at the end of the day this was a team that finished 6th in the 1st division beating the team who finished 1st in the 1st division, and who had also won at Anfield the previous season. It's not like they were a 3rd tier side or anything. It'd be like Southampton beating Chelsea in the FA Cup final this year. They would be underdogs for sure, but not massive outsiders. I was going to use Spurs as an example but in terms of disparity of budgets Southampton are a better fit, although still not Wimbledon scale.

Ganymede Glow

jcsoulinger wrote: »

Never really won anything big with those players either tho. The 05cl was before benitez put his stamp on the team.

Those Champions League runs and another CL final in 2007 which is so often forgotten about. You're right in saying maybe we should have won some more trophies but we were very unfortunate in some of the finals we lost. Actually thinking about it the one's we should have won, we lost. The one's we had no right to win, we won. Quite strange that

But also we're talking about the general mentality within the team that anyone coming to Anfield would have to work the gulag to get a result against us.

Vicxas

Rumoured starting Lineup for tonight:

Mignolet

Skrtel - Can - Sakho

Markovic - Manquillo

Lucas - Gerrard

Coutinho - Lallana - Lambert

Jesus Wept

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Suarez
Torres
Arbeloa
Mascherano
Kuyt
Reina
Alonso
Hamman
Finnan
Riise
Hyppia

I'd go back and pay more for all of those players tbh.

Doni m8