Paddy Barnes- MBE

Fratton Fred

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

It'd make more sense to support an Irish team? Just doesn't tally why someone who has such a vehement dislike of all things English likes to spend his Saturdays cheering on an English team, playing an English sport in an English league.

And no doubt claiming "we are the best team in the world"

Fratton Fred

drumswan wrote: »

This is comical stuff, keep it up lads.

You do have to smile at the straw clutching.

Karl Stein

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

clearly strong anti-british sentiments.

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

such a vehement dislike of all things English

Aongus von Strawman.

drumswan

Fratton Fred wrote: »

You do have to smile at the straw clutching.

The little mental webs they weave to fit in with their world view. Paddy Barnes isnt Irish, Manchester United arent English. Its fascinating what people can convince themselves of. And a bit pathetic.

MikeSD

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

Why didn't he box for Britain at the Olympics then if he's a member of the British empire? Those Olympic medals for a foreign country (Ireland) are now tainted, He never won anything at world championship level,

He will never win anything at professional level

Would't last 5 sec in the ring with Roman Gonzalez

I wonder would the British disown McIlroy for accepting the RTE sports personality of the year award. It is absolutely pathetic that people in Ireland still feel this way about these sort of situations.

Dublin Red Devil

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

It'd make more sense to support an Irish team? Just doesn't tally why someone who has such a vehement dislike of all things English likes to spend his Saturdays cheering on an English team, playing an English sport in an English league.

I have no problem with anything English. But I do have a problem with an ungrateful little bastard from county Antrim who was quite happy to use the IABA resources, wear the green jersey and stand under the tri-colour.

Then turns around and accepts Member of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire.

Britain can have the ****ing traitor

http://sportsnewsireland.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/paddy-barnes1.jpg

h2005

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

I have no problem with anything English. But I do have a problem with an ungrateful little bastard from county Antrim who was quite happy to use the IABA resources, wear the green jersey and stand under the tri-colour.

Then turns around and accepts Member of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire.

Britain can have the ****ing traitor

http://sportsnewsireland.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/paddy-barnes1.jpg

Thankfully you don't get to speak for the rest of the country. I'm cringing at every post you've made.

drumswan

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

I have no problem with anything English. But I do have a problem with an ungrateful little bastard from county Antrim who was quite happy to use the IABA resources, wear the green jersey and stand under the tri-colour.

Then turns around and accepts Member of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire.

Britain can have the ****ing traitor

http://sportsnewsireland.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/paddy-barnes1.jpg

There is nothing like coming across the Republican English premiership fan in the wild. Truly a remarkable specimen.

Dublin Red Devil

MikeSD wrote: »

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

Why didn't he box for Britain at the Olympics then if he's a member of the British empire? Those Olympic medals for a foreign country (Ireland) are now tainted, He never won anything at world championship level,

He will never win anything at professional level

Would't last 5 sec in the ring with Roman Gonzalez

I wonder would the British disown McIlroy for accepting the RTE sports personality of the year award. It is absolutely pathetic that people in Ireland still feel this way about these sort of situations.

Don't get me started on McIlroy. If you are going to be a traitor at least stick with the side you betrayed your country for, McIlroy wants to be a member of the British empire, then wants to rep for Ireland in the Olympics?

If you are going to turn your back, at least keep it turned.

drumswan

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

MikeSD wrote: »

Don't get me started on McIlroy. If you are going to be a traitor

Says the Irish football fan who supports a club registered with the companies office of Her Majestys Government and pays its taxes to Her Majestys Customs and Revenue - via British Sky Broadcasting. :pac:

MikeSD

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

MikeSD wrote: »

Don't get me started on McIlroy. If you are going to be a traitor at least stick with the side you betrayed your country for, McIlroy wants to be a member of the British empire, then wants to rep for Ireland in the Olympics?

If you are going to turn your back, at least keep it turned.

I never realised there was a "Rep of Ireland" Olympic team.

Dublin Red Devil

drumswan wrote: »

There is nothing like coming across the Republican English premiership fan in the wild. Truly a remarkable specimen.

Again. get it through you thick head. Man United= Professional Sports franchise, Not representative of it's nation of base location.

Nothing to do with Religion, or Politics

SEPT 23 1989

Dublin Red Devil

drumswan wrote: »

Says the Irish football fan who supports a club registered with the companies office of Her Majestys Government and pays its taxes to Her Majestys Customs and Revenue - via British Sky Broadcasting. :pac:

Its owned by international investors on the New York Stock exchange.
It's cute that you think Big businesses and corporations pay their tax. Aww bless

Thats why our our economy is just wonderful right now:D

drumswan

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

Again. get it through you thick head. Man United= Professional Sports franchise, Not representative of it's nation of base location.

Nothing to do with Religion, or Politics

Bollox. Another clueless plastic who understands nothing about the club they supposedly support. You should travel with United's away support and share your republican views, they'd especially love that.

Skid X

This thread has delivered. I hope the Queen hands out a few titles to Ulster GAA players in her Birthday list next Summer so we can do it again.

Maybe the former Baron of the Manor of Northstead should accept a gong, in the interests of the peace process?

pmasterson95

Wait is this thread to bash "plastic" Man U fans? Or is it to for Brits to bash the Irish?

Dublin Red Devil

The way most of you go on. You would rather Ireland abandon all nationality, Fly the union jack, sing God save the Queen?

Why not? You obviously don't care about Ireland, Being Irish means nothing to you. Why not just be British right?

Who cares about the people who died fighting for Irish independence, that was all just a good laugh. Right?

BoJack Horseman

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

The way most of you go on. You would rather Ireland abandon all nationality, Fly the union jack, sing God save the Queen?

Why not? You obviously don't care about Ireland, Being Irish means nothing to you. Why not just be British right?

Who cares about the people who died fighting for Irish independence, that was all just a good laugh. Right?

Little Irelander reminds me of this

SharpshooterTom

drumswan wrote: »

You lads should pop along to the Stretford End and tell the fella beside you Manchester United isnt an English club, then count the seconds before you get a slap. Bleedin clowns.

Man United might well be an English club, but its common knowledge to the whole of England that Man United fans have some of the most anti-English fans you can get, many of which are not loyal to England.

He plays on the left, he plays on the riiiiiiiight, that boy Ronaldo makes England look sh1te!

Man United/Liverpool fans are not well liked within parts of England often accused for their lack of patriotism to the national team, well known to clubs like Chelsea, West Ham etc. A lot of England fans tend to come from places like Basingstoke, Guildford etc.

Fratton Fred

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Man United might well be an English club, but its common knowledge to the whole of England that Man United fans have some of the most anti-English fans you can get, many of which are not loyal to England.

He plays on the left, he plays on the riiiiiiiight, that boy Ronaldo makes England look sh1te!

Man United/Liverpool fans are not well liked within parts of England often accused for their lack of patriotism, well known to clubs like Chelsea, West Ham etc.

This just gets funnier and funnier.

SharpshooterTom

Fratton Fred wrote: »

This just gets funnier and funnier.

Its true and you know it!

I'm not denying they're not an English club, or even agreeing with Dublin Red Devil here but it is well known that Man United and Liverpool fans are not the most ardent supporters of the national team.

Dublin Red Devil

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Man United might well be an English club, but its common knowledge to the whole of England that Man United fans have some of the most anti-English fans you can get, many of which are not loyal to England.

He plays on the left, he plays on the riiiiiiiight, that boy Ronaldo makes England look sh1te!

Its true. Many fans of big UK based clubs. don't care about international football. They are there because the love Man United, not because the club represents the city of Manchester.

Man United fans see The England national team as waste of time taking away some of their players for pointless friendlies, risking injury to key players for important club games.

Many United fans would rather Rooney didn't play for England at all.

calanus

Sometimes I skip from the first to the last page to see what the craic is... especially when the title of the thread is so straightforward and clear cut. And then I see this ^

Aongus Von Bismarck

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

Many United fans would rather Rooney didn't play for England at all.

Yeah, the plastic republicans who love talking about traitors and west brits and 800 years over a pint of Carling watching the footie on a Saturday.

Shiraz 4.99

calanus wrote: »

Sometimes I skip from the first to the last page to see what the craic is... especially when the title of the thread is so straightforward and clear cut. And then I see this ^

Yep, there should be a "guess the op" prize on page 10 on all these ditch hurling threads.

KungPao

Off with his head!

KungPao

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

Yeah, the plastic republicans who love talking about traitors and west brits and 800 years over a pint of Carling watching the footie on a Saturday.

In fairness, I don't think I've ever seen an Irish man drink Carling. Nor have I heard one call football "footie".

onlyme!

Someone should explain to young barnes that he can't be sticking his tongue up the queens arsehole and call himself irish, at the same time! ..........or can he?

Axel Lamp

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Little Irelander reminds me of this

I love that picture,makes me smile every time.

Reminds me of a pic from the love ulster riots of a lad in a villa jersey throwing a rock, with the tag line:

"**** da Brits, but Aston Villa are deadly"

pmasterson95

So this is an anti Premiership thread.....okey dokey

Berserker

Fran1985 wrote: »

Recognition for an Irish man from a country that hated us as mych as we hated them.

I feel to need to share a few words on this sentiment in sports terms. As an England football fan, I would like to inform you that whilst it is pretty clear that RoIs fans strongly dislike us, we do not share that sentiment. I, like pretty much every other England fan I know, would support the RoI as a second team. A football or sporting rivalry is a two way thing. You are not our rivals and you never will be.

As 2015 is nearly upon us, I have to say that I cannot wait for our little kick around this year. I am looking forward to all the media hype surrounding the game and seeing Lansdowne Road/Aviva Stadium, or whatever you call it, full for a football game.

As for Paddy Barnes, congrats and fair play to the man. I am not one for the honours system myself but he obviously feels a connection to it, as a Belfast boy. Also, he would have been asked whether or not he was willing to accept the MBE many months ago, in private consultation.

onlyme!

KungPao wrote: »

In fairness, I don't think I've ever seen an Irish man drink Carling. Nor have I heard one call football "footie".

sounds like a plastic englishman

Dublin Red Devil

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

Not really. They are a professional sport team. Not representative of the country in which they are based.

Actually yes really. Really really. When they win the league (I'll say they and not you) they represent England in the Champions League don't they? Also, dunno if you actually go to games or just watch down the local but the fans chant ''We Are The Champions, Champions Of England'' when they win the league. You were caught out lovely saying 'for me' (another thing you always hear in English football) he's not Irish anymore with your Dublin Red Devil moniker showing you up.

Dublin Red Devil

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

Again. get it through you thick head. Man United= Professional Sports franchise, Not representative of it's nation of base location.

Nothing to do with Religion, or Politics

The irony. It's called Manchester United for a reason. The clun represents the people of Manchester first and foremost. They're Mancs, not you and your pals down the boozer. 95% of clubs are named after where they're from. When they get successful, people like you latch on. You basically say Barnes will never be a champ and so isn't really any good to you. Says it all really. Despise 'fans' like that, buffoons.

Berserker

onlyme! wrote: »

sounds like a plastic englishman

If he drinks a pint of Guinness, he's a proper Irish man?

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Man United/Liverpool fans are not well liked within parts of England often accused for their lack of patriotism to the national team, well known to clubs like Chelsea, West Ham etc.

Man United/Liverpool fans are not well liked because of where the come from and also because they are remarkably successful, as football clubs. As for patriotism, the most patriotic football fans I know come from Walton Breck Road in Liverpool, i.e. Liverpool and Everton fans. I have been to hundreds of games in England and I can honestly say that I have never ever heard any chants or comments passed regarding patriotism. I have seen plenty of flags from all over the world, including Irish flags at the Bridge and the Boleyn ground. Those flags would easily out numbers England flags or UJs.

Jimoslimos

Oh dear. So much facepalming on this thread!

It is perfectly possible to be Republican/Nationalist/whatever and still enjoy the English (and Welsh) Premier League. However it is cringeworthy when you then start making assumptions about the cultures and national identity of local supporters from those clubs, whilst painting yourself as some sort of "superfan".

As for the thread topic, Paddy Barnes. I don't particularly care much for the honours system in the UK, especially since it doesn't quite resemble a merit system the higher up you go, more a collection of distant royal relatives and wealthy sycophants. For what it is worth there are plenty of other countries I'd decline an honour from before Britain.

However Paddy Barnes has accepted one and while surprised, I don't begrudge or think any higher/lesser of him for doing so. Perhaps he reckoned that by being dignified and respectful in accepting the award, it might be a small token of reconciliation between the two traditions up North - people he'd work and fight (in the sporting sense) with everyday. If so, fair play and no complaints here. It's not as if he has to surrender his Irish passport on receiving an MBE.

Lenin Skynard

Streetwalker wrote: »

Member of the most excellent order of the British empire (MBE)

Lol. These feckers are still stuck in the dark ages.

I remember chuckling at an interview with Rudolph Giuliani the former Mayor of New York when he was awarded a knighthood. His response in the interview was "They told me that I was being made into a British knight and I thought they were gonna give me a horse!, they didn't but I took the award anyways".

Was funny as feck in the thick New York accent. Never seen him attach "Sir" to the front of his name, he probably forgot about the award as soon as he finished laughing at its silliness.

Jimoslimos

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

I remember chuckling at an interview with Rudolph Giuliani the former Mayor of New York when he was awarded a knighthood. His response in the interview was "They told me that I was being made into a British knight and I thought they were gonna give me a horse!, they didn't but I took the award anyways".

Was funny as feck in the thick New York accent. Never seen him attach "Sir" to the front of his name, he probably forgot about the award as soon as he finished laughing at its silliness.

It's an honourary knighthood, he can use the letters (KBE) but not the title "Sir".

tomwaterford

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Oh dear. So much facepalming on this thread!

It is perfectly possible to be Republican/Nationalist/whatever and still enjoy the English (and Welsh) Premier League. However it is cringeworthy when you then start making assumptions about the cultures and national identity of local supporters from those clubs, whilst painting yourself as some sort of "superfan".

As for the thread topic, Paddy Barnes. I don't particularly care much for the honours system in the UK, especially since it doesn't quite resemble a merit system the higher up you go, more a collection of distant royal relatives and wealthy sycophants. For what it is worth there are plenty of other countries I'd decline an honour from before Britain.

However Paddy Barnes has accepted one and while surprised, I don't begrudge or think any higher/lesser of him for doing so. Perhaps he reckoned that by being dignified and respectful in accepting the award, it might be a small token of reconciliation between the two traditions up North - people he'd work and fight (in the sporting sense) with everyday. If so, fair play and no complaints here. It's not as if he has to surrender his Irish passport on receiving an MBE.

A great many Irish nationalists/people have turned them down over the years and it was no more said of it

But to say someone can be republican and still accept titles of any empire/royalty based regime is jumping through impossible hoops of logic IMO

Guy:Incognito

Some proper bitter fools full of hate about. I'm sure the hatred will keep them warm in their coffins. It might even get them there a bit quicker....

Fred Swanson

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tomwaterford

Fred Swanson wrote: »

Is Paddy a republican?

Since he accepted this I think we're on safe ground to say he's not

I've no bother with him accepting award btw....
Each to there own and all that!!

just I cannot abide this bs pushed by many so called republicans who support Sinn Fein who try and twist everything into a stupid victory (as someone who support them longterm...and by and large can stand by support of the ira)



There is no possible way this moves any community relations even 1%

Dirty Dingus McGee

Is it not a little hypocritical of him considering he declared "thats not my anthem" when God save the queen was played at his commonwealth games medal presentation ceremony.

I couldn't give a sh1te what he does but he could at least have a degree of consistency.

Fratton Fred

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Is it not a little hypocritical of him considering he declared "thats not my anthem" when God save the queen was played at his commonwealth games medal presentation ceremony.

I couldn't give a sh1te what he does but he could at least have a degree of consistency.

Personally I'd prefer Jerusalem was played in the unlikely event I won a gold medal.

Dublin Red Devil

Omackeral wrote: »

Actually yes really. Really really. When they win the league (I'll say they and not you) they represent England in the Champions League don't they? Also, dunno if you actually go to games or just watch down the local but the fans chant ''We Are The Champions, Champions Of England'' when they win the league. You were caught out lovely saying 'for me' (another thing you always hear in English football) he's not Irish anymore with your Dublin Red Devil moniker showing you up.

No, No team represents the country they are based in, in the Champions league. They represents themselves and their club.

United don't stand before the game an sing god save the queen to to Georges cross. Why? Because De Gea, Rafael, Rojo, Blind, Herrara, Mata, Valencia, Di Maria, Falcao and Van Persie are not English.

How can you say these men represent the country of England when they are just playing for a privetly owned professional sports organization that pays them their salary. They are representing themselves and the American billionaire who signs their paychecks,

Dublin Red Devil

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Personally I'd prefer Jerusalem was played in the unlikely event I won a gold medal.

Consistency isn't usually a characteristic possessed by traitors. Barnes is a whore who doesn't know the meaning of loyalty and respect.

Terrontress

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Is it not a little hypocritical of him considering he declared "thats not my anthem" when God save the queen was played at his commonwealth games medal presentation ceremony.

I couldn't give a sh1te what he does but he could at least have a degree of consistency.

It was Danny Boy which he said that about.

You're just as likely to find a loyalist unionist feel the same about it.

Terrontress

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

No, No team represents the country they are based in, in the Champions league. They represents themselves and their club.

United don't stand before the game an sing god save the queen to to Georges cross. Why? Because De Gea, Rafael, Rojo, Blind, Herrara, Mata, Valencia, Di Maria, Falcao and Van Persie are not English.

How can you say these men represent the country of England when they are just playing for a privetly owned professional sports organization that pays them their salary. They are representing themselves and the American billionaire who signs their paychecks,

What about before the FA Cup Final?

curioser

Enoch Slimy Banknote wrote: »

Disgusting little bastard IMO.. Unforgivable in my books.

Enjoy your Pimms with 'Sir' Bob Geldof ya little tosser.

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