Local store selling alcohol to minors tonight

end of the road

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

My local busy and popular convenience store is selling alcohol to minors. In the queue a kid (the only way he could be described) bought two 8 packs of Bavaria no questions asked and straight after him, this time a girl, bought a naggin of Vodka. No ID, no nuthin. I reckon she was no more than 16 and the other kid looked about 14.

This is just across the road from a garda station too.

I said to one of the two behind the till that they were minors and they shrugged it off.

This was so blatant it's obvious policy for the night.

I will be reporting it to the garda station tomorrow morning and I think others should do the same when they see this. Don't get me wrong i'm not a spoil sport and if it was one off I wouldn't but this was ridiculous. Allowing it in front of a queue of adults too probably shows they think most would not complain.

Would you say anything, do anything or just leave it be?

i'd leave it be. you reporting it is a waste of the gards time. more important things for such a small force with not enough resources to be doing then sorting someone selling some drink to a kid

foggy_lad

bluewolf wrote: »

you can drink underage in a private premises with parental consent

No you can't. It is an offence to provide alcoholic beverages for consumption by any minor whether in public or private and it is also an offence to allow the consumption of alcoholic beverages by minors in any premises owned by you.

end of the road

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

No I don't think so. We have a serious problem with under age drinking in this country and your attitude is partly to blame for that because you think it is ok for an Off License to be feckless with the laws.

well, that is debatible. any problems with drink are over hyped, or way way over hyped, so we don't know what the true situation is . his attitude is not in any way shape or form to blame for it. he just realises this will happen no matter what. if he thinks it is ok for an Off License to be feckless with the laws so what? these laws don't and never will work. no need to abolish them, but a small, barely resourced police force have better things to do.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

But then by and large the people who say "let them be" won't have to deal the consequences. That will be the emergency services and the gardaí.

how do you know some of those who say "let them be" don't infact work for the emergency services? and have based their opinion on the realities of what they see? that this will happen no matter what.

end of the road

kneemos wrote: »

At least they're not doing drugs.

you mean illegal drugs. alcohol is a drug

PizzamanIRL

OP: Garda, I'd like to report that shopkeeper for selling alcohol to minors last night.

Garda: How do you know they were minors?

OP: Eh they looked young.

Garda: Ok thank you I'll just type that up on my invisible typewriter. *tap tap tap tap tap*

foggy_lad

foggy_lad wrote: »

No you can't. It is an offence to provide alcoholic beverages for consumption by any minor whether in public or private and it is also an offence to allow the consumption of alcoholic beverages by minors in any premises owned by you .

newp
can drink in a house/private residence with permission

It is an offence to buy alcohol for people under the age of 18. It is also an offence to give alcohol to anyone under the age of 18 unless in a domestic home and they have parental consent. If found guilty of any of these offences, you could be liable on summary conviction in a District Court to a class B fine for a first offence and a class A fine for a second or any subsequent offence.

Young people under the age of 18 are not allowed in licensed premises during extended hours (except in certain circumstances). It is the responsibility of the licence holder to make sure this does not happen.

If you are under 18, you cannot legally buy alcohol. Also you cannot drink it unless you are in a private residence and have permission from your parents. It is also an offence to pretend that you are over 18 in order to buy or drink alcohol. If you are found guilty of these offences, you are liable to a class E fine on summary conviction in a District Court.
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/justice/criminal_law/criminal_offences/alcohol_and_the_law.html


Course that still doesn't mean they were legally allowed buy it or be sold to, I just thought I'd throw that in there before we get all the OMG UNDERAGE DRINKING

PizzamanIRL

Teenagers will get it either way from someone. The fact that the shopkeeper is selling it directly to them means the kids aren't disturbing an adult who could possibly be having sex with his woman which could eventually lead to some man/woman being born and possibly going on to become a scientist and find cures to deadly diseases.

So the shopkeeper could be saving the world by selling beer to the teens.

ireland.man

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

OP: Garda, I'd like to report that shopkeeper for selling alcohol to minors last night.

Garda: How do you know they were minors?

OP: Eh they looked young.

Garda: Ok thank you I'll just type that up on my invisible typewriter. *tap tap tap tap tap*

"We can't be like "policing" the whole neighbourhood." Chief Wiggum

So what's the punishment for shops which are caught doing this? What would happen to the workers?

Seeing the grief shopkeepers suffer even on good days, I'd probably avoid the aggro and not ask rough looking teens for their proof of age as well.