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Ref-Cams

  • 01-01-2015 6:03pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭


    Having seen referees in Ladies GAA and Rugby wearing TV cameras on their chest are there any plans to trial this in the Premier League at all? Or are there any leagues abroad where the local TV company has rigged the ref with a camera so the viewer can get an 'on-pitch' angle from the play?

    Seems a no-brainer for the TV companies, if a refs positioning is correct a camera broadcasting from his jersey should provide some spectactular footage of both tackles and long distance strikes. I'm just thinking back to that Wayne Rooney wonder goal a few years back where he was arguing with the ref one second and the next he was firing it into the top corner, the refs view of that would have been sublime, shame us fans never got to see it from the angle he did.

    Thoughts?

    edit- just had a look on the tube and they did it in the MLS last year. Camera is a bit shaky as they put it on the refs head instead of his chest like TG4 did for Ladies GAA. Still gives an interesting perspective, a real feeling of what it is actually like on the pitch



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,042 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Having seen referees in Ladies GAA and Rugby wearing TV cameras on their chest are there any plans to trial this in the Premier League at all? Or are there any leagues abroad where the local TV company has rigged the ref with a camera so the viewer can get an 'on-pitch' angle from the play?

    Seems a no-brainer for the TV companies, if a refs positioning is correct a camera broadcasting from his jersey should provide some spectactular footage of both tackles and long distance strikes. I'm just thinking back to that Wayne Rooney wonder goal a few years back where he was arguing with the ref one second and the next he was firing it into the top corner, the refs view of that would have been sublime, shame us fans never got to see it from the angle he did.

    Thoughts?

    Don't think it could be brought in with the amount of abuse that gets thrown at the refs. Unless maybe that could help with that carry on because every word will be caught on camera.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,294 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    They did it once many years ago and the abuse left it unbroadcastable

    ******



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    haha never thought of that, players would be getting complaints into Ofcom for using foul language on tv before the 9pm watershed :D

    If implemented it does have the potential to change player behaviour towards refs somewhat.

    I hope it comes in at some stage, even if only to be recorded and the best bits shown in the match highlights after the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,294 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    If it was strapped across the ref's forehead, it might go some way to stop all these "the ref had to have seen it" comments, usually made by managers, when refs make a decision that doesn't go their way.

    Also concerns about players language/abuse shouldn't stop it. If anything it'd be more reason for it, it might bring the players into line.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    I don't think it would work for association football. Referees in rugby and GAA naturally command respect whereas soccer referees just get volumes of abuse. It would be unsuitable to broadcast to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,948 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    I'd be for it if it meant players had to cop the hell on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,564 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Mars Bar wrote: »
    I'd be for it if it meant players had to cop the hell on.

    It wouldn't mean that though. Old habits die hard and it'd end up being the idea that had to be knocked on the head rather than the culture.

    You couldn't have that bedding in period where the language is on TV every week during pre-watershed hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,948 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    Anyway they could filter it so it's just the refs you hear and not the players? Means we'd hear the reasoning refs have for some of those mad decisions they make.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,564 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Mars Bar wrote: »
    Anyway they could filter it so it's just the refs you hear and not the players? Means we'd hear the reasoning refs have for some of those mad decisions they make.

    I'd say that's difficult, but I'm no multimedia expert at the same time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    CSF wrote: »
    I'd say that's difficult, but I'm no multimedia expert at the same time.

    Doable but not live.

    Think it would create a bigger problem with foul and abusive language, didnt rooney get sent off for that before?

    If the rules were enforced would be 5 a sides every week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    It will be a long time before it gets introduced. The sport is too conservative and slow to progress.

    I'd like to see it introduced to expose the amount of cheating refs that see pulling and holding in the box but choose to turn a blind eye.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    Surely you could just strap a camera,no need a for mic?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    As much as I'd like to see it introduced it leaves the refs and assistants open for criticsm when they start debating decisions among themselves, unless as its mentioned, its only video and not audio recorded.

    Although without audio theres nothing a refs cam can add to the game that the multiple cameras of the broadcasters cant already provide us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell



    Im pretty sure thats Millwall playing Arsenal there. AFAIK the Millwall players were tipped of about the ref being miked up and were as polite as they could be while Arsenal on the other hand.......... :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,785 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Mics work very well in rugby, so I would be in favour of that.

    Cameras seem to be a bit of a needless gimmick to me.


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