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Do mods get easy "likes"

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Fat Christy


    Sometimes when I get an infraction, I thank the on thread warning in the hope that the infraction will be reversed. Never happens. :-(

    Yes I've noticed it. Bit cringey.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭fran17


    Specialun wrote: »
    I often see mods posts comments, often very similar to other posts but yet their posts have way more likes that orignal

    Do folk brown-nose by just liking any gibberish by a mod..do mods get easier likes coz their the gaffers around the village..

    Yes,yes they do.Some people will thank anything.Its also used as a way for groups to attempt to belittle other posters and there opinions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,792 ✭✭✭Gandalph


    The two mods with the least amount of thanks each week should have to fight to the death in the Colosseum.

    Just a simple suggestion.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    Gandalph wrote: »
    The two mods with the least amount of thanks each week should have to fight to the death in the Colosseum.

    Just a simple suggestion.
    Poor Mustard mods :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,607 ✭✭✭toastedpickles


    Eh lads just one thing, when did boards become facebook? Gway with yer feckin "likes" They're thanks ffs :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,387 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I've been using this site for years before 'thanks' existed.

    I've been using this site for years after 'thanks' existed.

    People say it's brought in X,Y, Z.. but you know what? That **** has always been there.

    It hasn't changed anything. The only thing it's allowed is for you to quickly skim through a thread and see which posts have the most thanks.

    That's it. Really. The site wasn't better before, it wasn't better after. It's pretty much exactly the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Specialun wrote: »
    I often see mods posts comments, often very similar to other posts but yet their posts have way more likes that orignal

    Do folk brown-nose by just liking any gibberish by a mod..do mods get easier likes coz their the gaffers around the village..

    So little to be worried about


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 126 ✭✭harrymagina


    Funny that when there is a new mod announced people are congratulating them
    Its like congratulating someone on taking a dump.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭diusmr8a504cvk


    As a person who's been on lots of forums for different things and for different lengths of time I'd say that lots of people lick Arse when it comes to mods and that mods are a bunch of knob jockeys on each and every forum. They talk down to other users like a teacher with a cane would to a 2nd class student. They bust out the dictionary for their usually short and non humorous replies to users and a lot of them are people who are probably quite smart but have terrible social skills. Yeah I f*cking said it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    Sometimes when I get an infraction, I thank the on thread warning in the hope that the infraction will be reversed. Never happens. :-(

    Yes I've noticed it. Bit cringey.

    Attention seeker! When did you get an infraction?! :pac:

    I would agree that mods tend to thank each other's posts but apart from supporting on-thread mod actions, I think that a lot of that is just that many of us have met each other and know each other IRL.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,471 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    As a person who's been on lots of forums for different things and for different lengths of time I'd say that lots of people lick Arse when it comes to mods and that mods are a bunch of knob jockeys on each and every forum. They talk down to other users like a teacher with a cane would to a 2nd class student. They bust out the dictionary for their usually short and non humorous replies to users and a lot of them are people who are probably quite smart but have terrible social skills. Yeah I f*cking said it.

    You get used to it after a while,but the "talking down"to people is quite shocking at first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,724 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    anncoates wrote: »
    I'm not a mod and I get millions.

    Liar liar pants on fire :eek:
    Total Thanks
    Thanked 26,781 Times in 6,473 Posts


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Fat Christy


    Attention seeker! When did you get an infraction?! :pac:

    I would agree that mods tend to thank each other's posts but apart from supporting on-thread mod actions, I think that a lot of that is just that many of us have met each other and know each other IRL.
    It was a grave injustice.

    It's more so ordinary users flocking to thank mod posts. I dont see why posters feel the need to thank on thread warnings, seriously? Or other simple posts by mods. I just don't get it. You'll always be mere plebeians to me.

    I just read the last line! Ye cliquey fcukers! I feel so left out. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,655 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    It was a grave injustice.

    It's more so ordinary users flocking to thank mod posts. I dont see why posters feel the need to thank on thread warnings, seriously? Or other simple posts by mods. I just don't get it. You'll always be mere plebeians to me.

    Depends on the warning I suppose. Some people will thank anything for sure, but in my experience, many posters thank mod warnings because:
    • they reported the post and are thanking the mod for actioning it.
    • they are the person being reported, and are acknowledging the warning.
    • the post being warned was a particularly douchey comment and they are letting the OP know that most people in the thread don't agree with it.

    The thanks system has its flaws, much like Facebook's 'like' system, but in many forums it's representative of supporting a particular course of action, rather than posting the same thing over and over again, and it's a hell of a lot better than twenty or thirty "+1" posts cluttering up a thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    I've seen some mod warning speeches so overbaked with self righteousness that even the sheep don't thank it. Those are always gas too.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭TheBeardedLady


    Imagine concerning yourself with this kind of bollocks. Good god.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Macavity.


    Imagine concerning yourself with this kind of bollocks. Good god.

    It's very concerning and worrying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭TheBeardedLady


    Macavity. wrote: »
    It's very concerning and worrying.

    Oh is indeed. Very worrisome.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    Imagine concerning yourself with this kind of bollocks. Good god.

    Maybe she is.

    I see I've got over 1600 Thanks.

    I had set my heart on the Soup Maker but at this rate I don't think I can even afford the small casserole.

    I suppose the Mods get all the best prizes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    Imagine concerning yourself with this kind of bollocks. Good god.

    I haven't slept in weeks. My thanks-ticker is slowing down and I can't figure it out :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,655 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    Sauve wrote: »
    I haven't slept in weeks. My thanks-ticker is slowing down and I can't figure it out :(

    T'is to be expected at your age, sure.... :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,799 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    fran17 wrote: »
    Yes,yes they do.Some people will thank anything.Its also used as a way for groups to attempt to belittle other posters and there opinions.

    I also think that when a poster has been asked by a mod not to post in a thread again, the poster shouldn't be allowed to thank other posts as well from that point on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,724 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    I also think that when a poster has been asked by a mod not to post in a thread again, the poster shouldn't be allowed to thank other posts as well.

    Why not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,655 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    I also think that when a poster has been asked by a mod not to post in a thread again, the poster shouldn't be allowed to thank other posts as well.

    So you think that moderators are going to go through every thanks at the bottom of every post just to make sure it hasn't been thanked by a particular poster?!

    They've been asked not to contribute - they haven't been told that they can't read the thread and agree/disagree with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,799 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Why not?

    Because they are still contributing to the debate, it goes against the spirit of the mod instruction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,724 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Because they are still contributing to the debate, it goes against the spirit of the mod instruction.

    You consider likes to be a contribution to a debate? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,799 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    mike_ie wrote: »
    So you think that moderators are going to go through every thanks at the bottom of every post just to make sure it hasn't been thanked by a particular poster?!

    They've been asked not to contribute - they haven't been told that they can't read the thread and agree/disagree with it.
    That's the thing though, they haven't been asked not to contribute - they've been told not to post.
    Thanking a post is a contribution.

    Perhaps a changing to mod's wording of this would solve this subtle way of staying active in a thread where a poster is no longer welcome?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,724 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    That's the thing though, they haven't been asked not to contribute - they've been told not to post.
    Thanking a post is a contribution.

    Perhaps a changing to mod's wording of this would solve this subtle way of staying active in a thread where a poster is no longer welcome?

    Thanking isn't posting though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Because they are still contributing to the debate, it goes against the spirit of the mod instruction.

    So? Let's take a really popular topic in AH: dole threads!
    Person A says "sure everyone on the dole is a pack of lying, thieving scumbags", Person B says "I don't like how a lot of people on the dole seem to be happy to diddle the welfare and claim more than they should. It's not all of them but still enough that i don't like it".

    Person A gets told not to post again. Person B continues to post, debating their position. Person A agrees with them so they thank the posts. Person B might not agree with Person A but it shouldn't give anyone the right not to agree.

    You can voice your opinion, just don't be a dick. So thanking posts that aren't being a dick but that you agree with/support isn't against the rules.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,799 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    You consider likes to be a contribution to a debate? :confused:

    Yes I do.

    Not the most important, but a contribution all the same.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    It's the poster's post/attitude that aren't welcome, though.
    I've seen it both ways: don't post/don't contribute.
    In either case, they're not really breaking rules. The direction not to post is to make sure they don't have a chance to break the rules.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,724 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Yes I do.

    Not the most important, but a contribution all the same.

    So you think mods should waste hours every day checking the thanks in case someone who is banned from posting has liked a post? You should DEFINITELY take this to feedback and see what the mods think of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,799 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Thanking isn't posting though!

    Never said it was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    Supporting a side is taking part in it. Even if it's a minor way that more than likely won't ever make a difference.

    But wanting that to be against the rules is a way, way overboard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,799 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    So you think mods should waste hours every day checking the thanks in case someone who is banned from posting has liked a post? You should DEFINITELY take this to feedback and see what the mods think of it.

    I think the warning should be changed to 'Don't contribute to this thread again'

    It saves a lot more mod time than your suggestion and stops another way of abusing the thanks system dead in it's tracks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,724 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    I think the warning should be changed to 'Don't contribute to this thread again'

    It saves a lot more mod time than your suggestion and stops another way of abusing the thanks system dead in it's tracks.

    But unless a mod spends hours checking the thanks then how will they know if a "contribution" has been made?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,799 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    But unless a mod spends hours checking the thanks then how will they know if a "contribution" has been made?

    Same way as they always do.

    A combination of reading the threads and reported posts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Same way as they always do.

    A combination of reading the threads and reported posts.

    I need to know. In what way is a user thanking a post being a problem to the thread?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,655 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Same way as they always do.

    A combination of reading the threads and reported posts.


    The day I have to read through a couple hundred 'thanks' per thread to try and enforce the rules is the day I hand back my mod status, and I'd be surprised if most moderators didn't feel the same. Whether a disruptive poster adds a thanks or two to a thread makes very little difference - whether (s)he continues to add disruptive posts, does.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,799 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    I need to know. In what way is a user thanking a post being a problem to the thread?

    You've never noticed a circle jerk of posters in all your time here??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    You've never noticed a circle jerk of posters in all your time here??

    I'd probably be part of one, tbh. I've usually thanked any post I agree with.

    But still, I don't get how one (or even say three) people thanking a poster in a thread is an issue.
    If we were talking about the same 5+ people posting and not just thanking then you'd have a point. After all five or more posts saying near enough the same thing says a lot more than one post and having a few people thanking them. It's pretty much about as much of a disruption as nodding your head in agreement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,423 ✭✭✭tinkerbell


    RayM wrote: »
    Anyone else ever briefly mistake a subscriber for a mod?

    ...and then you have to un-thank them.

    Ah no don't say that :( I like my thanks, thanks :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    tinkerbell wrote: »
    Ah no don't say that :( I like my thanks, thanks :pac:

    I love this mod post!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,799 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    I'd probably be part of one, tbh. I've usually thanked any post I agree with.

    But still, I don't get how one (or even say three) people thanking a poster in a thread is an issue.
    If we were talking about the same 5+ people posting and not just thanking then you'd have a point. After all five or more posts saying near enough the same thing says a lot more than one post and having a few people thanking them. It's pretty much about as much of a disruption as nodding your head in agreement.

    Yeah I would try to thank posts I agree with too, its actually something I need to get into a habit of doing more of to be honest!

    Anyhoo, cliques and circle jerkers thanking each other posts only serve to place the 'thanks' on a level where it was never intended to be.

    In the scenario where a member of the circle jerk gets told to stop posting, they can still do there petty little high fiving and feel good about belittling some minority opinion that dares deviate from the group think.

    Not a very pleasant atmosphere to be allowed fester on any discussion site in my opinion.

    The fact that a mod on this site has stated that he would hand in his stripes rather than keep an eye out for this is a little disappointing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    When did likes start on boards???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    Where do you see this stuff happening?

    I don't go into every thread but I rarely see people doing the old gang-up mentality or being told "stop posting" and then have the bunch of them thanking posts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,799 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Where do you see this stuff happening?

    I don't go into every thread but I rarely see people doing the old gang-up mentality or being told "stop posting" and then have the bunch of them thanking posts.

    It's not something that bothers me personally for any length of time so I honestly can't think of something that has stuck in my mind.

    I have noticed it though so I'm 'on my honour ' on this I'm afraid.

    The powers that be have acknowledged many times on feedback and else where that the thanks system is open to abuse, it's just a shame that at least one of them has admitted zero interest in actually tackling the problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    It's not something that bothers me personally for any length of time so I honestly can't think of something that has stuck in my mind.

    I have noticed it though so I'm 'on my honour ' on this I'm afraid.

    The powers that be have acknowledged many times on feedback and else where that the thanks system is open to abuse, it's just a shame that at least one of them has admitted zero interest in actually tackling the problem.
    I suppose you're right; it's just one of those things that you notice or don't notice.

    You mean mike? He said he wouldn't want to go around checking posts just to see who thanked them. Nobody should have to do that.

    Now, if for example, the same few people were constantly liking posts that anyone made who were arguing against you (for example), it could be seen as trolling. That would be very different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,423 ✭✭✭tinkerbell


    Before "thanks", there was rep. Now those were the good times. Those shiny green dots were everything! Thanks is so inferior in comparison :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,655 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    The powers that be have acknowledged many times on feedback and else where that the thanks system is open to abuse, it's just a shame that at least one of them has admitted zero interest in actually tackling the problem.

    Interesting how you spin other peoples words to suit your purpose while ignoring most of the content. My actual words were:
    The day I have to read through a couple hundred 'thanks' per thread to try and enforce the rules is the day I hand back my mod status

    ...and I stand by that statement. For a few reasons:
    • We're volunteers, not employees, and the forum takes up a reasonable amount of time as it is. On a busy thread a single post can get 70-80 thanks or more, multiply that by posts per thread and we're talking unreasonable numbers. Nobody in their right mind would sign up for doing that manually, and the system doesn't provide the means to prevent it at the click of a button.
    • 'Thanks' aren't timestamped, therefore there's no way of verifying (at a mod or CMod level at least) whether a poster had thanked a post before or after the warning was issued. Obviously this applies to posts that came before the warning.
    • On the list of things that appear on the radar in terms of moderation, abuse of the 'thanks' system is quite low down.
    • A realistic implementation of this system would require changes to the code in order to make it manageable, something I don't see on the cards anytime soon.

    Anyhow, in my opinion, this is an issue for feedback if you truly want something done about it other than complain about it. Perhaps you should bring the issue there?


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