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The downhill of AAA games
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02-01-2015 10:13pm#12014 was the year videogames got stupid those words come from a youtuber I have tremendous respect for from super bunny hop and in a video less than 15 minutes long pretty much has summed up the decisions of the industry and us surrounding it and while I made a thread awhile back on my thoughts on indie games and feel alot I played although very creative , unique and gorgeous when taking into the account of budget and team size compared to the like of the ubisoft and ea its very promising and its no wonder the industry has really taken a strive to them to push innovation and memorable moments for years to come.
I made another thread awhile back talking about I fear having online into my single player games because while I may be in the minority as the ever fast digital age comes rapid and social networking as blended into our everyday lives I am now in red alert stage not for games per say but for AAA games.
2 titles comes to mind , two of which if you were to ask me what was your some of your fav games I would say sleeping dogs and dragons dogma, now these are two vastly different games with different genres and made by two completely different developers and studios but they share something in common. fans such as myself were dying for an announcement of a sequel and when the time came we were happy till the moment came , they are online only :mad: one of which is pc exclusive via sleeping dogs.
is this is what to expect for future titles ? that any given moment a successful well made sp game can turn into a sort of mmo esque game ?
albeit ubisoft most recent and ea have treated sp games like mmo with microtransactions and if anything is to remind us of how hard it is to manage online games to iron bugs with titles like driveclub , the crew and assassin creed unity the days of getting excited for a games release is well and truly gone and playing the waiting game till bugs are ironed out is in.
http://ie.ign.com/articles/2015/01/02/capcom-registers-trademark-for-dragons-dogma-online
Sqaure enix ceo latest remarks gave me the impressions that japanese studios think mobile strategy is the right tactic measures to keep a steady revenue while I can not say for certain is right or wrong it still worries me.
I do not mind a dark souls approach just allow me to play single player if by any chance my internet dies out I can still play it.
http://ie.ign.com/articles/2015/01/01/square-enix-annual-report-talks-ffxiv-hitman-go-tomb-raider-and-the-future
Sorry for the normal aul long rant again , just something I needed to get off my chest0
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Well he doesn't say games becoming stupid was all bad. Bayonetta 2 is brilliant in it's stupidity.
It's a transition year for gaming with the new generation of consoles. Sales of games have been dropping steadily for current gen while the next gen formats don't have a solid user base yet so publishers had to play it safe to make any sort of impact. However publishers also know that the start of a generation is the best time to introduce new franchises and hopefully we'll see a lot of that in the coming year. It's happening already with stuff like Destiny, Shadow of Mordor and Watchdogs, they may not be perfect but are solid foundations on which to build a franchise, similar to the first assassin's creed which was an absolutely appalling game but came into it's own in it's second iteration and neither of the two games mentioned are as bad as the first Assassin's Creed.
And if you are bored with triple A games that were boring there was always Nintendo to fall back on who created and published some of the most widely innovative, imaginative and technically competent titles this year. It still boggles the mind how there are still so many morons out there complaining about them rehashing old ideas and franchises when just playing their games reveals anything but.
Handhelds I feel were disappointing this year, especially considering the stellar year the 3DS had last year. In fact I think the Vita had a far, far better year than the 3DS. The 3DS still had a handful of absolutely stellar titles but I feel it was eclipsed by the japanese weirdness on the Vita and it hosted some wonderful JRPGs. However it might be mobile that was the real winner for handheld gaming. Some of the deepest and imaginative games came out on mobile.
So it's really not all doom and gloom (well except for the gamergate nonsense which is embarassing for all involved) just a crappy year for games but every console transition period takes a while to truly get going, I remember the PS360 period taking a good two years before it really took off. It's just business as usual.
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richymcdermott wrote: »2014 was the year videogames got stupid those words come from a youtuber I have tremendous respect for from super bunny hop and in a video less than 15 minutes long pretty much has summed up the decisions of the industry and us surrounding it and while I made a thread awhile back on my thoughts on indie games and feel alot I played although very creative , unique and gorgeous when taking into the account of budget and team size compared to the like of the ubisoft and ea its very promising and its no wonder the industry has really taken a strive to them to push innovation and memorable moments for years to come.
I made another thread awhile back talking about I fear having online into my single player games because while I may be in the minority as the ever fast digital age comes rapid and social networking as blended into our everyday lives I am now in red alert stage not for games per say but for AAA games.
2 titles comes to mind , two of which if you were to ask me what was your some of your fav games I would say sleeping dogs and dragons dogma, now these are two vastly different games with different genres and made by two completely different developers and studios but they share something in common. fans such as myself were dying for an announcement of a sequel and when the time came we were happy till the moment came , they are online only :mad: one of which is pc exclusive via sleeping dogs.
is this is what to expect for future titles ? that any given moment a successful well made sp game can turn into a sort of mmo esque game ?
albeit ubisoft most recent and ea have treated sp games like mmo with microtransactions and if anything is to remind us of how hard it is to manage online games to iron bugs with titles like driveclub , the crew and assassin creed unity the days of getting excited for a games release is well and truly gone and playing the waiting game till bugs are ironed out is in.
http://ie.ign.com/articles/2015/01/02/capcom-registers-trademark-for-dragons-dogma-online
Sqaure enix ceo latest remarks gave me the impressions that japanese studios think mobile strategy is the right tactic measures to keep a steady revenue while I can not say for certain is right or wrong it still worries me.
I do not mind a dark souls approach just allow me to play single player if by any chance my internet dies out I can still play it.
http://ie.ign.com/articles/2015/01/01/square-enix-annual-report-talks-ffxiv-hitman-go-tomb-raider-and-the-future
Sorry for the normal aul long rant again , just something I needed to get off my chest
I must be getting old as I had great difficulty reading this post. I'm not the kind of guy that nitpicks grammar, spelling and punctuation in a post. But this is absolutely terrible.
Anyway back on topic. With regards to PC AAA games, I think that the move of the industry towards mobile, micro-transactions, small scale games and console ports is largely the fault of the PC gaming community. The vast majority of PC gamers have pirated at least some of their games. The figures from piracy for Far Cry 4 show you exactly why there is such a reluctance to take gambles on well made AAA titles for PC.
When the industry gets some proper anti-piracy tools that actually work and don't interfere with legitimate gameplay, then you will start to get more developers take large AAA PC games seriously.0 -
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Now personally, I don't play many Japanese games at all, not since I was a kid really playing FFVII and MGS on the PlayStation way back when. It kinda just came with the territory of being a PC gamer, it was like there was a whole world of games that I was kinda cut off from. Picking up MGR: Revengeance and being super excited about it, I kinda wish there were more games available to me. I actually want to grab a copy of the MGS HD collection and play it on my girlfriend's Xbox, but damn I wish it was available for PC because I would seriously snap it up.
Speaking of, how are the Devil May Cry games on the PC? Was kinda eyeballing them
It's not just PC games that aren't popular in Japan, consoles have totally fallen out of favour with only the nerdy Otaku playing games on them. Development has really shifted to handheld and mobile although the indie scene has only just taken off there.Anyway back on topic. With regards to PC AAA games, I think that the move of the industry towards mobile, micro-transactions, small scale games and console ports is largely the fault of the PC gaming community. The vast majority of PC gamers have pirated at least some of their games. The figures from piracy for Far Cry 4 show you exactly why there is such a reluctance to take gambles on well made AAA titles for PC.
When the industry gets some proper anti-piracy tools that actually work and don't interfere with legitimate gameplay, then you will start to get more developers take large AAA PC games seriously.
You can't just look at piracy figures and declare PC gamers to be pirates and that the game didn't sell well. PC game sales figures are well up at the moment and then there's also the fact that most pirates were never going to buy the full game anyway.
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Hopefully 2014 was the low point in terms of broken/half finished games getting released. I'd be optimistic for 2015 mainly because it seems some AAA developers are willing to take the decision to delay titles until they are finished like CD project with the Witcher 3 and Rocksteady with Arkham Knight.
Oh and never pre-order...not even once
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Randall Floyd wrote: »Hopefully 2014 was the low point in terms of broken/half finished games getting released. I'd be optimistic for 2015 mainly because it seems some AAA developers are willing to take the decision to delay titles until they are finished like CD project with the Witcher 3 and Rocksteady with Arkham Knight.
Oh and never pre-order...not even once
EA really hurt the Battlefield brand with how broken 4 was and the same for Ubi with AC, and while in the case of unity it was an exception when publishers are so interested in serializing game they aren't going to be in a rush for a quick profit when they could milk a series for years.
While the delays are good for the games you have to think if it needed x more months how ****ed was it, in the case of Drive club they delayed it around a year and only announced that a month out from the original release and it was still broken.
Not sure how good Witcher 3 will be, the 2.0 versions have made those games but they weren't that great to begin with. Years ago I read a short collection of those stories based on the fact that someone defended the crappy first game with the lore and back-story which I guess must be great if it in anyway make up for the W1; the 2.0 version of that change it but this was before it.0 -
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johnny_ultimate wrote: »Good thing we have indie games to keep us company, ey Richy
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Well that changes everything. If a few people you know did it a few years ago before digital market places like steam etc. then by extension everyone must be doing it. I bow to your powers of extrapolation based on conjecture.
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