PS2 V Xbox

sweetie

could never get into the Orogi games myself. Wasn't Escape from Butcher Bay an Xbox exclusive?

Myrddin

Well I've read some good points, but nothing yet conclusive (apart from certain game specific examples) as to why people prefer the PS2 (again, exclusives aside...we're talking about shared libraries for this question). I can only surmise it's the go-to console because it has a vastly superior library, & therefore people are comfortable to favour it (controller accepted too).

Myrddin

Parawind wrote: »

Obviously it should be a case by case basis, but generally the multi platform titles were better on the 360.

I presume you mean the original Xbox here? (Edit, nevermind you ninja'd it) This is concurrent with some of the stuff I've read online (can't find the bloody article atm), & prompted me start this thread & ask people why they prefer the PS2 outside of exclusives. It seems to be more a familiarity with the PS2, & alienation of the Xbox in a lot of cases...

CiDeRmAn

I think the reason that, in the main part, the PS2 clinches it in even multiplatform releases is that, as the most popular machine of it's day by a long long margin, it became the target machine in terms of graphics, gameply etc.
Sure, the Xbox had more horses and the GC had... a nifty controller, but they were just co-opted into presenting PS2 quality visuals and the controller setup twisted to accommodate gameplay designed for the PS2 controller, like the aforementioned Metal Gear Solid 2.
There were exceptions, Outrun 2 and later Outrun 2:SP and SP DX were originally an arcade title and released on Sega hardware based on Xbox architecture, the Chihiro and later the Lindbergh boards, both Xbox based arcade boards.
This meant the game ran closer to the arcade edition when played on the Xbox platform, although the game sold far more afaik on the PSP/PS2.
But, I digress, in the main the game developers were targeting the PS2 architecture and the other platforms basically got the lowest common denominator ports, or worse as in the described case of Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2.

CiDeRmAn

Myrddin wrote: »

I presume you mean the original Xbox here? (Edit, nevermind you ninja'd it) This is concurrent with some of the stuff I've read online (can't find the bloody article atm), & prompted me start this thread & ask people why they prefer the PS2 outside of exclusives. It seems to be more a familiarity with the PS2, & alienation of the Xbox in a lot of cases...

It's probably this,
And, more precisely, the familiarity with the controller.
No need to go and learn where all the buttons are all over again, on the PS2 they are in the same place as they were on your PS1, and then there's the almost perfect compatibility with your PS1 games stack in your room.
For many buyers of software, not necessarily you but, maybe your parents given the average age of a games player was younger than now, the familiarity of the Playstation brand was as ubiquitous as Hoover was to Vacuum cleaners and, as a result, that's what they asked for.

Honestly, working in a gameshop in the late 90's people would be looking for Sega Megagames for the white machine their kids had, meaning they were looking for games for the Snes, as well as people overlooking the Dreamcast completely simply because it wasn't carrying the Sony brand.

As I have described before, when asked to loan my console to an Irish disk based computer magazine, they trialled my GC, an Xbox and a PS2 and lost their load over the PS2, loved the Xbox and gave the GC a complete fail.

Don't Underestimate The Power Of Playstation (Marketing Dept)

Tomo.Murphy

If I had to pick between the two I'd probably go with the PS2 just for the size of the game library and the backwards compatibility.

I still have the PS2 I got for Christmas when I was younger (so maybe there's some bias there :-P). My only experience with the Xbox was playing Halo and PGR in my cousin's house. Couldn't say anything bad about it though. I'm sure you'll be happy with either. The only reason I haven't picked up an Xbox is I wouldn't have the time to play it or the space to set it up.

CiDeRmAn

One other thing.
My lovely launch PS2 died due to a lightning strike on the house a few years ago.
My Xbox was unaffected.
My 3DO, FZ-1, shook it's fists and laughed at the gods!!!

o1s1n

A lightning strike took it out? Holy ****e! I take it you were trying to play Fire Warrior and nature objected? :pac:

CiDeRmAn

o1s1n wrote: »

A lightning strike took it out? Holy ****e! I take it you were trying to play Fire Warrior and nature objected? :pac:

You know, I'd expect that sort of comment from Retr0, but from you O1s... never from you

o1s1n

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

You know, I'd expect that sort of comment from Retr0, but from you O1s... never from you

Hah! I've spent too long in his company

CiDeRmAn

o1s1n wrote: »

Hah! I've spent too long in his company

Were you Ryu to his Sakura?

Dr Bob

Hmm..ive bought hundreds of ps2 games easily..and about 10 xbox ..at a stretch.....there seems to be a LOT more people that owned a ps2 than xbox back in the day..at least in ireland..

The Last Bandit

Dr Bob wrote: »

Hmm..ive bought hundreds of ps2 games easily..and about 10 xbox ..at a stretch.....there seems to be a LOT more people that owned a ps2 than xbox back in the day..at least in ireland..

It had a much shorter shelf life as well though, but ya rarely see a XBOX game at car boots any more.
But then again all the PS2 stuff is Buzz or EA Sport muck as well..

Mr.Saturn

The Last Bandit wrote: »

But then again all the PS2 stuff is Buzz or EA Sport muck as well..

The number of false alarms these have been over the years. There's no sense of disappointment quite like scoping an array of blue cases from a distance, only to approach and see EA's entire PS2 library stretched before you. Slightly better than seeing a case with a game you'd like, only to crack it open and see 'FIFA' plastered on the disc.

I've let out an audible "bollocks" on more than one occasion.

CiDeRmAn

Be careful to label everything from any given studio as muck.
Say what you will about EA Sports, Shox is a brilliant little old skool racer straight out of a 90's arcade and is a wonder with a force feedback steering wheel like the GT Force, its a bit of a diamond in the rough, sold like dried dog sh1t back in the day and never got a follow up but well worth picking up, less than a fiver in shops that stock that sort of thing.

the groutch

it is true though that the ps2 probably has more shovelware than every other console combined.

Retr0gamer

the groutch wrote: »

it is true though that the ps2 probably has more shovelware than every other console combined.

What you call shovelware, I call endlessly entertaining. Zombie vs. Ambulance, Sniper 2, Demolition Girl so much ****!

CiDeRmAn

You never know what you'll find in shovelware.
Many jap titles found their way to Pal shores via shovelware publishers like 505 and you got the like of Castle of Shikigami and Strikers III popping up at stupid budget prices.
Battle Gear 2 and other racing franchises respected in Japan popped up too as cheaply released games like Kaido Racer and Tokyo Road Race and can be easily overlooked in a pile of dung but are actually pretty damn fine games.

The Last Bandit

Actually have Shox somewhere, good game alright. But I should have been more specific and said EA sports games

Mr.Saturn

When we say non-sporty shovelware, I'm thinking more of what used to be found in the PS2 section of TempleCom on the quays. Games such as Aladdin or Little Mermaid where the development time was spent entirely on making the cover evoke Disney as much as possible whilst avoiding a lawsuit. Mercy be to the poor sausage who found that in their Xmas stocking.