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The Apple Watch

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    #1352
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    bee06 wrote: »
    €379 for the 38mm is the reduced price. It used to be €429.

    Well spotted.


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    #1353
    flyguy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭flyguy


    dhaughton99 wrote: »
    Is the Apple Watch, which was announced yesterday, a new watch or are they just lowering the price? I note that the price in the apple online store is still €379. Might be interested in getting one if the price does go down by €100.

    If you don't want to pay full price just get one on adverts, plenty of nearly new ones for sale for a lot less...


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    #1354
    dhaughton99
    Registered Users Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭dhaughton99


    flyguy wrote: »
    If you don't want to pay full price just get one on adverts, plenty of nearly new ones for sale for a lot less...

    Nah, thanks anyway. Prefer just getting from Apple. Adverts is like a rats nest.


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    #1355
    Savage Tyrant
    Registered Users Posts: 3,165 ✭✭✭Savage Tyrant


    Paid 260 for a 4 month old 42mm a couple of weeks ago.
    The second hand market is much more economical right now until the release of Apple Watch 2.... That will likely be in September.


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    #1356
    yermandan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,068 ✭✭✭yermandan


    Lads, anyone have to get their screen replaced yet? Dropped mine and Apple want 230 euros


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    #1357
    bertie4evr
    Registered Users Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bertie4evr


    yermandan wrote: »
    Lads, anyone have to get their screen replaced yet? Dropped mine and Apple want 230 euros

    That's what they charge for any work done to it. The way they're made makes it impossible to replace the screen, or anything else, easily so you'll get a refurbished model.


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    #1358
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,928 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    So, its big anniversary this year. I want the watch, herself would like to have a look at one first. Bank holiday, so we toddle off to Currys.
    "Nope, none in display, you'll have to go to CompuB in Cork."
    "But you sell them online?"
    "Yes but not instore........".
    Typical mis-information from Currys, we head off to Hardly Normals.....
    "Nope, none in display, you'll have to go to CompuB in Cork."
    "But you sell them online?"
    "Yes but not instore........".

    Seriously, how do you expect to sell a watch that no-one can see or try on first, especially with the money they cost? AFAIR, CompuB have one on display. She can't be arsed going all the way into the city centre just to have a look at one, I have had a chance to look up close in the Apple Store in Whitewater, London, where they had about 10 on display. Mad, Ted.


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    #1359
    mackerski
    Registered Users Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭mackerski


    It's hard to see why anybody would order for delivery from a merchant other than Apple. I wonder how many they sell.


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    #1360
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,928 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    mackerski wrote: »
    It's hard to see why anybody would order for delivery from a merchant other than Apple. I wonder how many they sell.

    I wondered the same. Then they send you in to look at them in a place that would either have them in stock or push you towards ordering from Apple online. I don't see many going from HN to CompuB and then off home to order from HN's website.....

    A previous post advising of £50 off in Currys UK is still going too, BTW. May order my one that way.


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    #1361
    Sad Professor
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,678 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Maybe Apple aren't allowing in-store sales of the watch unless there's someone trained there to facilitate try-ons.


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    #1362
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Interested in getting one but the confusion about cost in Ireland vs. international is pissing me off.

    I'm just checking online and you can buy a refurb from bestbuy for basic 211 dollars, with the 42mm for ~250 dollars.

    Looking at the possibility of using something like bongoUS to re-ship - Has anyone gone down this route? It just seems a bit off to pay so much.

    On amazon UK, you can get basic model for about 305 euro. But on compuB they're still, what, 429 euro?

    Anyone got any tips for getting the best deal?


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    #1363
    Sad Professor
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,678 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Apple recently dropped the price so not everywhere will have updated yet. I advise against getting in the US in case of warranty issues.

    Personally if I was getting one I'd get it from Apple who at least acknowledge their obligations under consumer law. A lot of places will shrug their shoulders at you.


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    #1364
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,928 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    dr.bollocko wrote: »
    Interested in getting one but the confusion about cost in Ireland vs. international is pissing me off.

    I'm just checking online and you can buy a refurb from bestbuy for basic 211 dollars, with the 42mm for ~250 dollars.

    Looking at the possibility of using something like bongoUS to re-ship - Has anyone gone down this route? It just seems a bit off to pay so much.

    On amazon UK, you can get basic model for about 305 euro. But on compuB they're still, what, 429 euro?

    Anyone got any tips for getting the best deal?

    Back to the age old story buying from the US. Most places in the US will have Sales Tax to add, nearly 10% in NY. In the US they don't have to pay 23% Tax as we do here.

    You need to allow for Duty if applicable, 23% VAT and a processing fee (€6-€15) if you ship from the US. And as Sad Prof says , forget any comeback after 12 months. I'm sorely tempted to buy from Amazon UK at €360 plus Parcel Motel, but that kind of money, with no guaranteed comeback after 12 months?


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    #1365
    wush06
    Registered Users Posts: 688 ✭✭✭wush06


    I see 2.2 update is out only seen this now have not installed it.


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    #1366
    naasrd
    Registered Users Posts: 2,408 ✭✭✭naasrd


    wush06 wrote: »
    I see 2.2 update is out only seen this now have not installed it.

    Thanks for sharing bro.


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    #1367
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Sad Professor wrote: »
    Apple recently dropped the price so not everywhere will have updated yet. I advise against getting in the US in case of warranty issues.

    Personally if I was getting one I'd get it from Apple who at least acknowledge their obligations under consumer law. A lot of places will shrug their shoulders at you.
    whiterebel wrote: »
    Back to the age old story buying from the US. Most places in the US will have Sales Tax to add, nearly 10% in NY. In the US they don't have to pay 23% Tax as we do here.

    You need to allow for Duty if applicable, 23% VAT and a processing fee (€6-€15) if you ship from the US. And as Sad Prof says , forget any comeback after 12 months. I'm sorely tempted to buy from Amazon UK at €360 plus Parcel Motel, but that kind of money, with no guaranteed comeback after 12 months?

    Mine arrived!

    Is there a resource here for the best apps or is it all hidden away in this thread?


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    #1368
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,641 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Having issues with Facebook messenger and Apple Watch. It doesn't send notifications to my watch and they show up on my phone as normal. I've tried uninstalling, unpairing, restoring etc etc. It makes no difference.


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    #1369
    shanec1928
    Registered Users Posts: 4,149 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    Anyone looking for 38mm nylon black band. Picked up in Belfast today but never checked the size ffs.


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    #1370
    skinny90
    Registered Users Posts: 2,477 ✭✭✭skinny90


    Hi guys
    Undecided on to get the watch. I've been looking at one second hand. 42mm for 230. What are the main features ? How long should I expect the battery to last?


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    #1371
    Zcott
    Registered Users Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭Zcott


    skinny90 wrote: »
    Hi guys
    Undecided on to get the watch. I've been looking at one second hand. 42mm for 230. What are the main features ? How long should I expect the battery to last?

    The main features are on Apple.com, and the battery will last a full day easily enough.


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    #1372
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,928 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    Not sure whether to get one now, or not.....http://www.macrumors.com/2016/04/11/apple-watch-shipments-decline-2016/


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    #1373
    Creamy Goodness
    Registered Users Posts: 26,579 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    whiterebel wrote: »
    Not sure whether to get one now, or not.....http://www.macrumors.com/2016/04/11/apple-watch-shipments-decline-2016/

    This always happens though. Apple are masters of stock control.

    I wouldn't be buying one now if it was me. There's a 50% chance of getting a refresh at WWDC in June or 100% in September with the iPhone 7.


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    #1374
    MillField
    Registered Users Posts: 635 ✭✭✭MillField


    Creamy Goodness wrote: »
    I wouldn't be buying one now if it was me. There's a 50% chance of getting a refresh at WWDC in June or 100% in September with the iPhone 7.

    Agreed. There will very likely be an update later in the year. Seems like a bad time to be buying one.


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    #1375
    squonk
    Registered Users Posts: 9,269 ✭✭✭squonk


    Save your money and get the refresh. There is at least a spec refresh coming. Latest rumors suggest the redesign will happen in 2017 which makes sense to me. The processor could do with a refresh as, honestly, the current watch is a little slow. That may be down to connectivity with the iPhone as well. Native Apps has improved things but IMHO it's still not quite the 'magic watch' that you ask for directions and various other things with an instantaneous response. It's more like Ask Question -> Spinny -> 10...20 secs -> Result. In a lot of cases you'd have gotten your phone out and looked up the answer in that time. Also, while seoncds of waiting time aren't a big deal on the phone, the watch seems to exaggerate that wait time more.

    I love my watch. It's a great first run product but it needs to be way snappier. I'd say a spec bump will be a bit difference, then model 3 with a thinner profile and a bigger spec bump. Then things will start to get really interesting. Just look at the original iPad. It and the iPad 2 were like chalk and cheese. I'm hoping for the same evolution here though accepting the Watch 2 will be just a Watch S.


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    #1376
    Oafley Jones
    Registered Users Posts: 6,495 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    You'd be crazy to buy now.
    Creamy Goodness wrote: »
    This always happens though. Apple are masters of stock control.

    Sales for a second gen product predicted to drop 25%?!?? Certainly doesn't always happen. Sales of iPad 2 were multiples of the first. And you can see why. The iPad was slightly under baked when launched, but it delivered in a number of areas, particularly apps. It made a decent use case for itself in spite of the hardware. The iPad 2 was a far superior machine, refining the experience - honestly they should have held off to make it the launch iPad. The flip side there is what my friend suggests; that they made the 2 far too well.

    If the iPad was under baked, the watch is completely half baked. I think it kinda hurt the product categories future potential. The sluggishness can be brutal. Has there been any killer apps yet? Bought a 38mm SS ML for the wife at Christmas and she installed a single app (darkskies, which she never uses). She complains about the UI. She likes it, but wouldn't replace it if it were lost.


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    #1377
    baby and crumble
    Registered Users Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    Oafley Jones wrote: »
    She likes it, but wouldn't replace it if it were lost.

    That's how I feel about mine. I like it, and when I'm not wearing it I feel weird but mostly because I've always worn a watch, so it wasn't a new thing for me. I doubt I'll replace it unless there's a big jump in spec. I annoys me I can only see previews of emails, etc (I don't use the stock app on my phone so it's all 3rd party stuff).


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    #1378
    Savage Tyrant
    Registered Users Posts: 3,165 ✭✭✭Savage Tyrant


    For me it is literally just a watch with the added function of notifying me of texts and phone calls so I can decide to take my phone out of my pocket or not.
    That's literally it.
    I like it. It's handy to have... If I lost it or broke it, it wouldn't be an automatic "must" replace. I probably would but I could live without it. Especially when I've got a couple of nice watches already that don't get any wear right now.


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    #1379
    Creamy Goodness
    Registered Users Posts: 26,579 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    Oafley Jones wrote: »
    You'd be crazy to buy now.



    Sales for a second gen product predicted to drop 25%?!?? Certainly doesn't always happen. Sales of iPad 2 were multiples of the first. And you can see why. The iPad was slightly under baked when launched, but it delivered in a number of areas, particularly apps. It made a decent use case for itself in spite of the hardware. The iPad 2 was a far superior machine, refining the experience - honestly they should have held off to make it the launch iPad. The flip side there is what my friend suggests; that they made the 2 far too well.

    If the iPad was under baked, the watch is completely half baked. I think it kinda hurt the product categories future potential. The sluggishness can be brutal. Has there been any killer apps yet? Bought a 38mm SS ML for the wife at Christmas and she installed a single app (darkskies, which she never uses). She complains about the UI. She likes it, but wouldn't replace it if it were lost.

    I misread the article, thougth the analyst meant that Apple Watch 1 sales would drop 25% due to the impending release of Apple Watch 2.


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    #1380
    squonk
    Registered Users Posts: 9,269 ✭✭✭squonk


    I think the last few posts summed up how I feel about the watch actually. It's grand. Could be better but if I lost mine, I wouldn't be in a rush to replace it. My next Apple purchase is likely to be a new MacBook Pro whenever they're refreshed. Part of me now is a little sorry I didn't save the watch money to put towards that. Mind you, the watch does serve to constantly remind me I'm a lazy bástard so I think that's good in itself to make me do better!


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    #1381
    Oafley Jones
    Registered Users Posts: 6,495 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    squonk wrote: »
    I think the last few posts summed up how I feel about the watch actually. It's grand. Could be better but if I lost mine, I wouldn't be in a rush to replace it. My next Apple purchase is likely to be a new MacBook Pro whenever they're refreshed. Part of me now is a little sorry I didn't save the watch money to put towards that. Mind you, the watch does serve to constantly remind me I'm a lazy bástard so I think that's good in itself to make me do better!

    This was pretty much the only reason I was slightly interested in the watch. I wanted an inactivity monitor to see what a slug I was. Didn't fancy wearing a fitbit thingy though. The solution for me came from this years CES. The Withings Activite Steel.

    I still don't rate the Apple watch's basic design. It just doesn't look right to me. But the Withings has this simple bauhaus aesthetic which I really like. Better still, the watch battery lasts 8 months and it'll monitor walking, running, swimming and your sleep patterns. All through a basic % dial on th watch The app is excellent. And it's only 170 euro.... There's a 400 euro version (sapphire, swiss movement etc and a 150 euro plastic one, which looks terrible value next to the steel) Only downside is that it's gotten me into looking at watches properly. Currently eyeing up a Stowa Antea for myself.


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