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Super XV 2015 General Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    What a shambles. Why did Crusaders leave it so late to start playing? :(


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Haven't seen pryor play at 8 before, hopefully he can fill the huge gap manu leaves. With Evans and Hardie that's a very mobile back row.


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Such a sloppy start from the Highlanders


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Force playing very good effective simple rugby


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Jesus Christ what rugby!

    Force have knocked on 3 Times now on the white wash


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭Jacovs


    Lions 23-3 Cheetahs at half time.

    This is Naka Drotske's last game in charge. Was supposed to stay till end of the season but they released him early.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.




  • Subscribers Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Swiwi. wrote: »

    i love this passage
    This is the strangest rugby team ever assembled, playing the weirdest brand of footy since the Southland Boys' High School Old Boys, aka the Satanic Verses, invented the "Braveheart" kick-off. There's Lima Sopoaga with banana kicks for territory from the halfway line. There's Patrick Osborne putting up high balls for Marty Banks to chase and regather, both seemingly unaware of the fact that they are intentionally messing with the natural order of things.

    the highlanders have been a joy to watch this season (and last season, mostly, to be fair)

    for a team that have no all blacks in their forwards, they have the best stats on forward set pieces.


    edit:
    and love this in the comments section as well
    Love it Scotty, Don't forget Lima Sopoanaga who kick passes more than he pass passes


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/may/25/waratahs-pair-suspended-for-illegal-tackle
    Hooker Latu and lock Skelton were suspended for four and two weeks respectively after each were found guilty of an illegal lifting tackle on Crusaders and All Blacks lock Sam Whitelock in last Saturday’s Super Rugby game in Sydney.

    i think the ref and TMO bottled this one, skelton did as much as he could that game to get carded,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭SuprSi


    Agreed, it was a running joke with the commentators. He'd at least 3 potential yellow card moments outside of the lift tackle and got none.


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  • Subscribers Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Carter back at 10 tomorrow for the crusaders. ... possibly under some pressure to perform after a lack lustre season between injuries and playing at 12.

    Freuen back at 13 but i didn't think himself and haivili well be able for Smith / nonu.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭sydneybound


    Crusaders on top so far 16-3.

    Please tell me Nemani Nadolo will play for Fiji in the World Cup? Anytime I've watched him this season he's been immense, he made the crusaders try.

    Carter converted four from four.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭sydneybound


    Try hurricanes 16 - 8. Carter miss kick led to the try.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭skippymac6


    Try hurricanes 16 - 8. Carter miss kick led to the try.

    Fantastic try from the Canes to start the second half. Length of the field try started by a lovely weighted grubber through by Nonu just outside his 22


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    Ah bloody hell. Saders finally find some form...a week too late. If the tahs had been down to 14 or 13 would have certainly won last week too. Ah well


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Swiwi. wrote: »
    Ah bloody hell. Saders finally find some form...a week too late. If the tahs had been down to 14 or 13 would have certainly won. Ah well

    your game away to the brumbies in the last round could become very interesting ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    your game away to the brumbies in the last round could become very interesting ;)

    I think this result means Chiefs and Highlanders can still currently finish in 1st place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭SuprSi


    Can the Crusaders make the wildcards? Looking at the table it will take some favourable results but it looks like there's still a chance?


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    SuprSi wrote: »
    Can the Crusaders make the wildcards? Looking at the table it will take some favourable results but it looks like there's still a chance?

    if the bulls beat the brumbies in the next game, it could get very very interesting


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    if the bulls beat the brumbies in the next game, it could get very very interesting

    Not a Bulls fan...but go the Bulls!

    Edit: actually F that. Go the draw! (I think...)


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  • Subscribers Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Swiwi. wrote: »
    Not a Bulls fan...but go the Bulls!

    Edit: actually F that. Go the draw! (I think...)

    yeah the low score draw would be better, brumbies would end up on 39 and bulls on 36, youre on 36 currently


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭SuprSi


    Hmm, not looking like any salvation for the Crusaders in this match!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭SuprSi


    Come on the Bulls! Converted try, 22 - 16 now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    That was a pretty awful game. Speight was excellent though, and with not many Australians putting their hand up for the wing spots, he has to have a great chance at starting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    This game even worse, but Higginbotham impressing massively with 2 nice tries. Rebels red killed it a bit, to be fair to the lad (Weeks) he can land a punch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭sydneybound




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,257 ✭✭✭Hagz



    Surely it has to be samurais....? Seems a shame if it's anything else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 496 ✭✭George Hook


    Hagz wrote: »
    Surely it has to be samurais....? Seems a shame if it's anything else.


    I'd give a list of significant clans or shoguns but as much as I'd love it to have the weight and gravitas the historical context would provide they'd want something internationally recognizable. I.e. dumbed down.

    How about Ninjas? Or Dragon Warriors?

    *insert prefecture that they play out of* Green dragons/White Tigers
    (both of which are significant Buddhist figures)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    Good game, nice Landers try. I tell you syd, dark horses these men from the south.


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  • Subscribers Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Only getting to turn this on now.
    Sounds like our defense is impressing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Only getting to turn this on now.
    Sounds like our defense is impressing?

    Waisake!


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Naholo !!!

    Burns heem even giving him 10 meters. Some player


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    It's been a good game syd. The Highlanders are very organised, and the Chiefs, while good, are missing their stars I reckon (Retallick, SBW, Lowe)


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Highlanders harassing defense has been excellent. Chiefs getting no time on the ball at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    Give me a S.T.A.T.E.M.E.N.T!

    That is a 4 try BP victory...in style.

    You're in the playoffs syd!

    Edit: beat the canes next week and you can still top the table!


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  • Subscribers Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    That's a huge huge victory.

    I know the chiefs were without their big names, but we showed today that we can play stodgy choking defensive rugby while still being a threat off every attack.

    Totally satisfying to be qualified with two to go.

    No body will want to play us in the play offs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    Based on season form final should be canes v landers. But with the silly table system landers and Chiefs will likely meet in the round of 6 and canes & landers (or Chiefs) in the semis. Pity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭franglan


    Commentators in Perth think the Cooper move to Toulon is a "will he, won't he?" Thought that was confirmed at this point. Also saying Matt O'Connor could be the next Reds coach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    Aussie commentators saying MOC very fancied for the Reds job next year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Force being ridden bareback by the referee here. Last call was a stinker. Ref calls maul, goes to ground, defender doesn't move and gets penalised for not rolling away. Referee then gives final warning to Force!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭SuprSi


    Fantastic pass from Cooper, even if it was forward


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Bit of QC magic there to make the try with a behind the back pass to Turner. All stemming from the incorrect penalty, though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Great response from WF just before the break.


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Yeah this ref is a bit muck.

    Like him or hate him, when Cooper is in form He's a class act.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    That maul then penalty for roll away is the worst call I've ever seen. The try off it definitely forward too. He's been harsh on Greg Holmes though, any time it's come down he's pinged him though Pek Cowan is scrummaging at a massive angle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    Crazy Reds try, coast to coast then back to the other coast all for the sake of 2 metres in the one phase.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Quade Cooper is what I imagine people saw in Mark Ella back in the 80s....if he touches the ball twice in the same phase there's going to be a try.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭Jacovs


    Very odd that 4th placed team is already assured of their playoffs spot but 2nd and 3rd arent sure yet.


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Jacovs wrote: »
    Very odd that 4th placed team is already assured of their playoffs spot but 2nd and 3rd arent sure yet.

    ??

    2nd and third will be the aussie and SA conference winners, regardless of league points

    without the conference system the table would look like this

    1. Hurricanes 57
    2. Highlanders 48
    3. Chiefs 44
    4. Brumbies 42
    5. Waratahs 41
    6. Stormers 38


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭Jacovs


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    ??

    2nd and third will be the aussie and SA conference winners, regardless of league points

    without the conference system the table would look like this

    1. Hurricanes 57
    2. Highlanders 48
    3. Chiefs 44
    4. Brumbies 42
    5. Waratahs 41
    6. Stormers 38
    Yeah but at the moment neither brumbies or stormers are assured of their play off spots yet, they could yet be overtaken and drop out of the top 6 completely.

    I just meant at this moment in time the Highlanders in 4th are assured of playoff spot, but the current 2nd and 3rd team arent assured of it yet. I know all of us know how the log works, just from an outsider's perspective it must be confusing.


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