Jon Jones is in Rehab

Devastator

darced wrote: »

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At one time? So what are you trying to imply?

Has Jones being caught for trace substances of cocaine just turned into a Fertitta corruption/fraud case? :eek::eek::eek:

Mellor

darced wrote: »

Would it be that strange to pass the test if he had already cycled off?

He epi test levels were still raised. If that was due to masking, the CIR would have picked it up.
If he had cycled off and it cleared his system, his levels wouldn't have been raised.

Lance Armstrong passed 500 or so tests remember.I am no expert but lots of
qualified people are saying there are major red flags with his test levels.

It's his epi test that was under scrutiny not his test levels. I've seen three doctors say it was strange but inconclusive, and that CRI would reveal more. And the CRI came back clean.
His T/E was strange, but it was still within the normal/natural range (according to Don Caitlin).

No fighter is undeniable clean imo. But the CRI test does, as far as they currently know, mean that the theory about the T/E ratio is false.
The epi mask theory never made sense to me as there was no high test to mask.

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TimRiggins

Anyone see the picture where Sonnen was drinking Coke when Jones was walking over to him? Wonder if Sonnen knew and Jones has been on it all along.

http://www.bjpenn.com/tbt-sonnen-drinks-coca-cola-vs-jones-ufc-weigh-ins/

Mellor

darced wrote: »

According to this Conte character the CRI test can be passed in as little as 2 weeks but your levels can remain out of whack for months afterwards.

"Character" is one way of describing him.
Conte was basically the Walter White of PEDs about 10 years ago. He developed the Clear. He's supposedly "clean" these days, but always has his own agenda. He'll never be a neutral expert, but he also probably knows PEDs very well.

He saying there that natural test could be surpressed after synthetic steroids leaves your system. Makes sense, especially if you didn't do proper PCT.
But CIR wouldn't be passed if Epi levels were still raised from synthetics.

A few days ago he said

Victor Conte wrote:

IMO. TRUTH in the T/E ratio case of @ufc Jon Jones is simple. Nevada does CIR tests on his frozen samples & MMA learns the truth either way

I dont like Jones but I would hate it if the best fighter in the sport was on the gear all along.

Agree completely.

TimRiggins

TimRiggins wrote: »

Anyone see the picture where Sonnen was drinking Coke when Jones was walking over to him? Wonder if Sonnen knew and Jones has been on it all along.

http://www.bjpenn.com/tbt-sonnen-drinks-coca-cola-vs-jones-ufc-weigh-ins/

I never saw that, realy interesting indeed. would indicate that his coke use is well known. especially about the "tell the truth about you " remark.

MartyMcFly84

I pretty sure Chael drank Coke to hydrate after lots of his fights. Its part of his pre fight ritual and trying to get sponsorship etc.

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2/chael-sonnen-confirms-hes-got-coca-cola-deal-2464817/

TimRiggins

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

I pretty sure Chael drank Coke to hydrate after lots of his fights. Its part of his pre fight ritual and trying to get sponsorship etc.

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2/chael-sonnen-confirms-hes-got-coca-cola-deal-2464817/

Yup seen that afterwards. Was complete bull****!

JoeyJJ

Ha ha Jones only spent 1 night in Rehab. His mother is glad it happened, its the other boys having an affect on poor John as his Mammy says he should get better friends.

scudzilla

1 night in rehab, what a joke, he done that just to get out of any shitstorm that was going to follow, damn i can't stand this guy

MartyMcFly84

1 night in rehab, what a joke, he done that just to get out of any shitstorm that was going to follow, damn i can't stand this guy

He was obviously told to enter. But isn't that why most people go into rehab?

scudzilla

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

He was obviously told to enter. But isn't that why most people go into rehab?

for 1 day, he would hardly have checked in before leaving, he just did it to say he'd been in rehab

MartyMcFly84

for 1 day, he would hardly have checked in before leaving, he just did it to say he'd been in rehab

That's exactly my point. He went in because he was caught and was told to in order to avoid some heat.

Its not as though he was thinking he has a coke problem and needs to sort it out. Loads of people enter rehab in order to lessen their sentences or avoid jail etc all the time.

Devastator

scudzilla wrote: »

1 night in rehab, what a joke, he done that just to get out of any shitstorm that was going to follow, damn i can't stand this guy

Or UFC/Jones realised there would be no sh*tstorm after reviewing evidence/tests/lawyers/etc and decided an extended stay in rehab for drugs may look potentially a lot worse than spending 1 night for a 1 off mistake(ufc angle)

Mellor

Devastator wrote: »

Or UFC/Jones realised there would be no sh*tstorm after reviewing evidence/tests/lawyers/etc and decided an extended stay in rehab for drugs may look potentially a lot worse than spending 1 night for a 1 off mistake(ufc angle)

Good point.


I think the fact that he never should have been tested alleviated a lot of the pressure.
I said at the start that I was shocked he was the first fighter to be popped for coke. But the reality is others could of had it in their system too, but the out of comp test didn't check for it.

dickwod1

MagicIRL

Fined 25 grand for the whole thing... wonder if he got paid more than that for the Fox exclusive? :P