Athiests - Who cares

harrymagina

Had a friend going around telling the whole local pub he is an athiest after a few jars. I know another Athiest who loves telling people that he is an athiest and going on about how he has been arguing about his wife about baptising the child and keeps bringing it up. I don't care if you are an athiest just please stay quiet about it! How are your athiest friends?

McDermotX

The thing is, you'll find dickheads in all shapes and sizes, religious, non-religious, those who think they're atheist, those who are etc etc

I've always found the common denominator is that they're people. It therefore follows that some people are just dickheads.

K4t

None of them are that extreme.

But then none of them are so extreme that they shoot up the church during Sunday mass either.

take everything

harrymagina wrote: »

How are your athiest friends?

Dyslexic probably

The Strawman Argument

We're not all like Ricky Gervais, y'know

anncoates

I'm an atheist but not a twat about it. If I was, I'd start a forum on boards for me and other atheists to hang out.

AlanS181824

If you believe in God, fine.
If you belive in evolution, fine.
If you believe in Miley Cyrus being our twerking supreme leader.. Fine too.

Just whatever you do, don't be a dick about it.

We all have the right to believe in what we want.

xLisaBx

Atheists sometimes feel that the notion of a deity is almost humorous. They then proceed to tell everyone about their lack of beliefs. It's kind of like believing in Santa to them. I personally stopped believing in an afterlife and a superior being around the age of 12. And, embarrassingly, I did go through this phase. For me, it was more about finding people with the same outlook as me. And getting a bit of a laugh at others expense too

Some atheists also may want to start conversation about the topic with others- its scary to believe in nothing, the idea of eternal nothingness is something that some people like to talk about with others.

harrymagina

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kneemos

Atheism is flawed logic as it rules out the possibility of the unexplained and as any scientist will tell you their whole life is devoted to the unexplained.

TheChizler

I also know someone who blames Israel for 9/11 and others who blame the government for every little thing. It gets worse after a few jars. People are people and some are more vocal than others, especially if they're angry or passionate about something, or after a few pints.

3rdDegree

I'm an atheist, but try not to be a dick about it. I don't want religion shoved down my neck, so I expect others don't want my beliefs shoved down their necks either. No all atheists are dicks - just the dicks.

TheChizler

kneemos wrote: »

Atheism is flawed logic as it rules out the possibility of the unexplained and as any scientist will tell you their whole life is devoted to the unexplained.

I'd be interested if you could find an atheist who agrees with that point of view.

3rdDegree

kneemos wrote: »

Atheism is flawed logic as it rules out the possibility of the unexplained...

It does not.

Peregrine

kneemos wrote: »

Atheism is flawed logic as it rules out the possibility of the unexplained ..

The Diabolical Monocle

Introduce him to the world of fedora hats next time he starts.
Level 5 atheists are eligible.

kneemos

3rdDegree wrote: »

It does not.

Does so.

3rdDegree

kneemos wrote: »

Does so.

You got me. Can't argue with that!

kneemos

3rdDegree wrote: »

You got me. Can't argue with that!

I know.

endacl

I know many atheists who never mention it at all. Even after pints.

:cool:

KungPao

Well, I'm not an atheist...or am I?

AndonHandon

Atheism and agnosticism are the same thing.

RayM

harrymagina wrote: »

How are your athiest friends?

They're grand. Although they are going to burn in the fires of hell for eternity.

catallus

Like rashers and sausages!!!


Mwahahahahhaha!

better call saul

AndonHandon wrote: »

Atheism and agnosticism are the same thing.

Nope Nigg

COYVB

AndonHandon wrote: »

Atheism and agnosticism are the same thing.

Correct. You either believe in something or you don't. Even if your opinion is that you can never know for sure one way or another, you still either believe in that thing or you don't - no in between exists

osarusan

I'm a faithiest.

I'm the faithiest, actually.

Duggy747

harrymagina wrote: »

I don't care if you are an athiest just please stay quiet about it! How are your athiest friends?

You don't care yet you made a thread wanting to know more?

TheChizler

COYVB wrote: »

Correct. You either believe in something or you don't. Even if your opinion is that you can never know for sure one way or another, you still either believe in that thing or you don't - no in between exists

Eh, you nearly had it there for a second, you might want to consult a dictionary. Theism concerns belief, and Gnosticism knowledge, they're orthogonal.

Turtwig

KungPao wrote: »

Well, I'm not an atheist...or am I?

Is the cat alive or is it dead?

COYVB

TheChizler wrote: »

Eh, you nearly had it there for a second, you might want to consult a dictionary. Theism concerns belief, and Gnosticism knowledge, they're orthogonal.

They're not used that way in terms of religion though. Practically everyone who uses the word agnostic regarding religion uses it as a cop out alternative to theist or atheist. In that context athiest and agnostic are the same thing: non-believer

catallus

Turtwig wrote: »

Is the cat alive or is it dead?

I knew a cat once called Lazarus.

Probably dead now.

AboutaWeekAgo

The worst kind of athiests are the ones who think because they don't belive in a god it makes them smarter than somebody who does.

Dirty Steve

Is there an atheist version of Jehovah's witnesses?
Knock to your door and start talking about evolution.

Grayson

AboutaWeekAgo wrote: »

The worst kind of athiests are the ones who think because they don't belive in a god it makes them smarter than somebody who does.

The worst type of theists/deists are the type that think their magical friend is better than everyone else's magical friends. They'll even stand out in public with big placards telling everyone that if they don't believe in in their magical friend, their magical friend will get angry.

Actually the worst type are the ones that kill people because their magical friend tells them it's ok in that special magical book.

Kiwi in IE

AboutaWeekAgo wrote: »

The worst kind of athiests are the ones who think because they don't belive in a god it makes them smarter than somebody who does.

I agree with you on that, and the worst kinds of religious people are the ones who murder in the name of their religion.

iDave

The worst kind of atheists are those that talk about it a lot and think they're smarter than everyone else. Very annoying people.
The worst kind of theist murders and bombs those who disagrees with them or 'insults' their deity/prophet etc.
Atheists not so bad after all.

TwoShedsJackson

AboutaWeekAgo wrote: »

The worst kind of athiests are the ones who think because they don't belive in a god it makes them smarter than somebody who does.

As long as those atheists aren't murdering a dozen people for blasphemy, blowing themselves up on a bus or at a wedding, travelling thousands of miles to kill or forcibly convert 'heathens', or attempting to force others to comply with their rules in society, they're still streets ahead of the worst theists, even if they are dickheads.

Grayson

COYVB wrote: »

They're not used that way in terms of religion though. Practically everyone who uses the word agnostic regarding religion uses it as a cop out alternative to theist or atheist. In that context athiest and agnostic are the same thing: non-believer

There's technically hard and soft atheism. rather than Deist - Agnostic - Atheist, there's actually a load of steps in-between. The difference between hard and soft atheism is that one absolutely denies the existence of god and the other just says there's no evidence and it's unlikely.

I don't like the while denying thing. It's only because I'm an extremely logical person. Saying there's no God is very hard to do. There is the Russell teapot analogy. If I say there's a teapot floating around the earth in an orbit between us and the moon, there's no evidence for it except for what I say. there are three ways to accept this statement

1) Accept it (Noob)
2) State that there is no such tea pot.
3) State that there may very well be a teapot but you've given me no reason to accept that it's there. I have no reason what so ever to believe that there's a teapot or anything like it there.

In some ways it's just semantics. Stating a refusal to believe isn't quite the same as stating a denial of existence. However when it comes to religion the result is still the same and that's atheism.

The same goes for agnosticism. There's a point where agnostics are pretty much atheists and vice versa.

Cabaal

kneemos wrote: »

Atheism is flawed logic as it rules out the possibility of the unexplained and as any scientist will tell you their whole life is devoted to the unexplained.

Yes, because the likes of the Christian or Muslim faiths are just 100% logical and sensible.....

Jamiekelly

"You never turn on the news in the evening only to be greeted with the headline 'The Atheist stronghold took heavy fire and mortar shelling today from the Agnostic basecamp"
- Doug Stanhope

Grayson

kneemos wrote: »

Atheism is flawed logic as it rules out the possibility of the unexplained and as any scientist will tell you their whole life is devoted to the unexplained.

Scientists devote their efforts to finding answers to questions they don't know. If they didn't the pinnacle of modern science would be Aristoles physics. Unlike Christians who accept that a book written 2000 years ago is the pinnacle of knowledge.

Atheists don't rule out every possibility, just the ones with no rational backing. In fact it's generally accepted, and studies back it up, that atheists know more about religion than believers do. It's because atheists at some point started asking questions and started looking for answers. This involves actually studying religion which is not something most religious people do. If the person doesn't find answers which satisfy them, they become atheists.

Pherekydes

kneemos wrote: »

Atheism is flawed logic as it rules out the possibility of the unexplained and as any scientist will tell you their whole life is devoted to the unexplained.

Atheism doesn't rule anything out. It's simply a lack of belief in deities.

AndonHandon wrote: »

Atheism and agnosticism are the same thing.

You need a new dictionary.

ZiabR

Dirty Steve wrote: »

Is there an atheist version of Jehovah's witnesses?
Knock to your door and start talking about evolution.

I am an atheist and I have never heard of something like that. I don't try and force anything onto anyone else, unlike some other beliefs.

Each to their own.

Akrasia

Dirty Steve wrote: »

Is there an atheist version of Jehovah's witnesses?
Knock to your door and start talking about evolution.

nope

Grayson

Akrasia wrote: »

nope

lol, can you imagine an atheist knock knock joke?

Knock Knock
Who's there
Not God because he's not real



Still be better than having Richard Dawkins there. As much as i agree with most of what he says, he can be an irritating cnut sometimes.

Shrap

AboutaWeekAgo wrote: »

The worst kind of athiests are the ones who think because they don't belive in a god it makes them smarter than somebody who does.

The worst kind of person are the ones who think they are right to the extent that they cannot accept that other people should be allowed to think/feel/act differently.

Akrasia

When I go out for pints with friends and certain relatives, I go out for lively conversation. I hate bland meaningless chit-chat, I have to put up with enough of that at work

I don't always talk about religion, i also talk about politics, current affairs, philosophy, literature, music, sport... but the best conversations are where there is a friendly disagreement between people who strongly hold opposing views.

It's a joy to be involved in a battle of wits with someone who you respect and will engage with you in a good natured discussion.

Not everyone enjoys this, and thats why 'god' invented soap operas and the x factor

Dravokivich

Grayson wrote: »

Scientists devote their efforts to finding answers to questions they don't know. If they didn't the pinnacle of modern science would be Aristoles physics. Unlike Christians who accept that a book written 2000 years ago is the pinnacle of knowledge.

Atheists don't rule out every possibility, just the ones with no rational backing. In fact it's generally accepted, and studies back it up, that atheists know more about religion than believers do. It's because atheists at some point started asking questions and started looking for answers. This involves actually studying religion which is not something most religious people do. If the person doesn't find answers which satisfy them, they become atheists.

Why would someone have to do that to be an atheist? Isn't it just the same as being apolitical?

twowheelsonly

Grayson wrote: »

.....In fact it's generally accepted, and studies back it up, that atheists know more about religion than believers do. It's because atheists at some point started asking questions and started looking for answers.....

This is the bit I actually find quite funny. I have no problem with Atheists really - just the vocal ones that talk about religion even more than the most religious people that I know !!

Shrap

Dravokivich wrote: »

Why would someone have to do that to be an atheist? Isn't it just the same as being apolitical?

Not in this country. In countries where growing up atheist is not questioned by others or discriminated against, they may not have to question the pervasive religious belief. Here, you find out the hard way. I was always atheist, so that's my story. For people who were brought up religious, I can imagine that the force feeding of said religion at home and at school led them to question why, and in what name, they were being forced to believe something.