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NXT 2017 Thread *SPOILERS*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    If your point is solely that the way they were presented on the main roster was limiting, then yes, I agree with you in the specific.

    However, in the abstract, I strongly disagree with you. The act offers literally nothing. They are not good at promos, they are not good in the ring, they do not have a good look, and they are a black hole of charisma. What exactly do they offer?

    The idea that because they got some slight steam in NXT means something in the bigger picture doesn't hold water, because Blue Pants blows the roof off Full Sail, Eva Marie is a white hot heel and Bo Dallas was the top guy. The NXT audience is boisterous and loud and reacts strongly to everything presented to them (well, except maybe Elias Samson).


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,869 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    When the topic of talent getting lost in the shuffle I always link to the point that there are only so many spots that are there for the taking on the main roster.

    Where was Neville suppose to go when he was called up? Where were The Ascension suppose to go when they were called up? Where was Bo Dallas suppose to go when he was called up?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,321 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    People will get lost even if they have talent

    The ascension didn't have much going for them, Bo didn't have much either. Neville can still breakthrough imo.

    To me it looks like that once you get on the payroll and stay long enough you get called up.

    If you are good enough you get called up with a plan like Owens to set you up. If they are less sure you get called up to justify the investment in you and a chance to prove someone wrong.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    ShagNastii wrote: »
    When the topic of talent getting lost in the shuffle I always link to the point that there are only so many spots that are there for the taking on the main roster.

    Where was Neville suppose to go when he was called up? Where were The Ascension suppose to go when they were called up? Where was Bo Dallas suppose to go when he was called up?

    The main roster is badly lacking depth in talent and needs guys who are ready to go. The fault lies with the booking.

    Neville could have been given a string of wins, starting with bottom rung guys like Bo & Slater building further and further up the card until he was the level of the Ambrose/Del Rio/Owens guys now. This was done with Rusev and Ryback over the past few years, guys with less talent and less ability to connect with an audience than Neville, and the strong booking got them over. But of course Neville is short, so he can't be protected in booking.

    Bear in mind that in a 7 day period between Raw, Smackdown and Raw of last week, we had three straight Stardust - Titus matches. There's plenty of spots for fresh talent on the main roster. But so long as the structure of the show is counterproductive and the guy making decisions is incessantly neurotic and completely out of touch, it's probably redundant bringing anybody up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Blue_Dabadee


    Elias Samson would make a good Sandow stunt double.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 29,138 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Monokne wrote: »
    and they are a black hole of charisma.

    Explains the link to Stardust. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,469 ✭✭✭LeeJM


    So there was an NXT tv taping last night at the CFE Arena in Orlando
    Austin Aries debuted, as Austin Aries and he has merch. NXT is gonna be all kinds of amazing this year.

    Also, Joe and Sami did a double pin or count out (cant remember which) and they are gonna have a 2 out of 3 falls match at the next taping.

    And Finn beat Neville in the last match and while on the top rope did the real shooter Bullet Club finger gimmick. So yea thats happening.


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,467 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Someone send some flowers to tna lol.

    It's amazing that some of there marquee names are coming to wwe. Bar James storm and Bobby roode there is no stand out guy in tna now that wwe would be interested in.

    With
    Aries and styles are these guys not too old for wwe or are they hitting there prime.
    Please god wwe don't bury them like they did with sting


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,469 ✭✭✭LeeJM


    Please put that in spoilers!! Its unfair for somebody who doesnt wanna see spoilers come in and see those names mentioned


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Mick Murdock


    Just started watching Breaking Ground and love it!!! It does a great job of making you want to see people succeed. Carmella is awesome!! She's a real hard worker and I really hope she does well.

    It also shows you how legit and tough you have to be to even considered for a deal, male or female.

    I f*cking love Brookside, Regal and Albert. You can see how they've all lasted so long in the industry. Make a great team.

    Corbin on the other hand is a wanker . Zero charisma and I don't see him lasting a year with that personality.

    Also not feeling ZZ or the winner of Tough Enough.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    I haven't really watched all that much of it but I kind of got the impression that they kept ZZ around in order to make an example of him. I could be wrong, I don't know how he's doing now, maybe he's after "getting it" suddenly, but last I saw he was still not trying too hard. This week's episode of NXT was pretty good. I'm looking forward to seeing the triple threat match next week now. Someone spoiled that in one of the other threads on here I think but should still be pretty good. Also, pretty excited about that appearance at the taping.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,891 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Someone send some flowers to tna lol.

    It's amazing that some of there marquee names are coming to wwe. Bar James storm and Bobby roode there is no stand out guy in tna now that wwe would be interested in.

    With
    Aries and styles are these guys not too old for wwe or are they hitting there prime.
    Please god wwe don't bury them like they did with sting

    Don't think they are too old, your not gonna get a ten year stint outta them but you'll get a solid four years outta them. Think WWE know that they are short on star power and are trying to snap up the top indy guys who have a cult following, that's why Samoa Joe was probably signed to make money off his merch and maybe get a solid short term run outta him.

    Only problem is like you've already pointed out with the burying Sting reference, I don't think WWE creative are up to it to maybe get the best out of these guys or even guys like Balor or Zayn.


  • Registered Users Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Palo Alto



    Corbin on the other hand is a wanker . Zero charisma and I don't see him lasting a year with that personality.

    Also not feeling ZZ or the winner of Tough Enough.

    Mate, it's a complete work. You are being worked.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Yeah I do have to giggle at everyone who gets wound up with Corbin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Mick Murdock


    Ah! Arguably not a very effective one. I thought the idea is you want to see him get his ass kicked rather than hoping he just disappears. Think they've lost track of that part.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭Virtanen


    I've honestly warmed to Corbin recently. I don't know if it was the lack of NXT over Christmas, but last week's episode was the first time I saw him wrestle and thought that, yeah, he could be a star


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,891 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Vince likes his big guys and Corbin could be the next NXT guy to be called up (Andre battle royal at WM) I think. A big guy/little guy duo would be good like Diesel and HBK with the bodyguard role but his whole lone wolf persona would make that hard but its WWE and would have no problem changing his gimmick around.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,158 ✭✭✭✭hufpc8w3adnk65


    Lads can anyone update me on Enzo and cass? Is Carmella still with them? Face/heels/tweeners? Are they still over crazy? I haven't watched since I got rid of the network and thought they'd be on the main roster by now


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,321 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Corbin could tidy up his look a bit. The Beard and Hair need sorting. Needs to incorporate a vest to hide his unusual body thanks to the weight loss.

    As a performer he does appear to be improving or at least allowed to let go more to showcase himself. He is what I like in a big guy, he is big enough to be believable in beating someone up, hitting power moves but not so big that taking offence looks awkward.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,891 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    MrMac84 wrote: »
    Lads can anyone update me on Enzo and cass? Is Carmella still with them? Face/heels/tweeners? Are they still over crazy? I haven't watched since I got rid of the network and thought they'd be on the main roster by now

    All three are still together and are super over with the crowd. I think they're still faces and should be pushed up to the main roster because the tag team division is getting stale again.
    DM_7 wrote: »
    Corbin could tidy up his look a bit. The Beard and Hair need sorting. Needs to incorporate a vest to hide his unusual body thanks to the weight loss.

    They've actually being floating the idea of giving him a motorcycle to come out on to go along with his music.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Where did you hear that about the motorcycle, fam? Hadn't read that anywhere.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    I didn't hear anything about a motorcycle either, is there a source on that piece of information?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,891 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    I'll try and find the link to it but was on the wrestling thread of a different forum.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,853 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    Mods we need a 2016 thread at this stage I reckon.

    Anyway big news from last night
    Shinsuke Nakamura confirmed for Takeover:Dallas on 1st April. Facing Sami Zayn I think not sure if that's confirmed


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    Huge spoilers here from the tapings, and one MASSIVE match announced
    NXT Taping 1/21/16 Megathread

    Last taping before Wrestlemania weekend, crowd is electric tonight according to Greg Hamilton

    (dark match) Billie Kay vs Adrienne Reese (Athena), Adrienne wins with the O-Face

    ---
    March 9th episode

    * ***Sasha and Hideo in the audience, but leave before the match starts [(1)](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZw5l1YXEAEkUnA.jpg:large) / [(2)](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZw4RaEW0AAklGa.jpg:large), [Hayes and Zybysko are also there](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZw89tGWQAMXUEC.jpg:large)*


    * ***Regal announced Austin Aries vs Baron Corbin at Takeover: Dallas*

    * **Samoa Joe vs Sami Zayn 2/3 falls**

    * 1-0 Joe: hits the Musclebuster to claim the first fall after over 20 minutes, Joe is bleeding from a Sami headbutt

    * 1-1, Sami gets his first fall with the Koji clutch after 30 minutes

    * 40 minutes in, [Powerbomb in to Crab in to Cross face](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZxCCDMW0AIje_v.jpg:large), [Fly Sami fly](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZxCtmlWAAAns2p.jpg)

    * The ending: first Coquina Clutch by Sami, then Coquina Clutch by Joe

    * **Joe wins 2-1** after action-packed ~40-45 minutes (no prolonged rest holds), 5* match

    ---
    March 16th episode

    * [Hype Bros (with lots of steam)]( vs Angelo Dawkins & ???, Hype Bros stay hyped

    * [Deonna Purrazzo vs Emma (/w Dana Brooke)](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZxG5rkXEAANkn0.jpg:large), Emma wins with the Emma Lock in a dominate fashion

    * Tommaso Ciampa vs Jessy Sorenson, Ciampa gets the win [by submission](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZxIwvGWkAAETT5.jpg)

    * [Bayley/Asuka vs Nia Jax/Eva Marie](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZxKSs7W0AAcjyj.jpg:large), mighty "YOU CAN'T WRESTLE" chant for AllBotchEverything, a bad match, Jax accidentally squashed Eva, [babyfaces win](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZxLLwRWwAEERqg.jpg:large)

    * **Regal announces Asuka vs Bayley as Co-Main Event for Dallas**

    * American Alpha vs Vaudevillians for the #1 contendership for NXT tag titles, really good match, **[American Alpha are going to Dallas](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZxOydiUUAAIHNa.jpg)**

    ---
    March 23th episode

    * ***Sami promo*

    * **Regal announces [NAKAMURA VS SAMI IN DALLAS](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZxQss8WEAQ6cOF.jpg:large), Full Sail went NUUUTTTTSSS**

    * **PICTURES: 1(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZxRLY7XEAAUwo-.jpg:large) / 2(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZxb6oiWkAA2mOl.jpg) / 3(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZxb6o4W0AALGE3.jpg) / 4(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZxb6pUWYAEEzq5.jpg)

    * **[Nakamura video](


    * Elias Samson vs Johnny Gargano, Johnny wins but Drifter knocks him down

    * ***Apollo Crews appears, prevents beat down from (The Drifter???)*

    * Rich Swann vs Finn Bálor, Bálor retains in a great match

    * Mary Dobson vs Alexa Bliss (/w Blake & Murphy), Alexa wins with the Sparkle Splash

    * Bull Dempsey vs Danny Burch, no-contest, Joe came out and destroyed both of them

    * [Emma vs Asuka rematch](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZxZDywWEAArThu.jpg:large), Asuka wins the match that lasts more than 15 minutes

    ---
    March 30th episode

    * [Austin Aries]( vs Riddick Moss, Aries is the winner

    * American Alpha (without the NXT tag team titles) vs Corey Hollis & John Skyler, AA win

    * [Q.T. Marshall](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZxgrxXW0AIS0o0.jpg) vs Baron Corbin, Corbin with the win

    * Dash/Dawson [(with the NXT tag team titles)](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZxiMaLWkAEbtvq.jpg:large) vs Steve Cutler & Tucker Knight, D&D defend their title with the Shatter Machine

    * Alex Riley vs Apollo Crews, [The Drifter appears (before or after Crews' win?)](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZxk3rpWYAI6jDr.jpg)

    * Samoa Joe vs. Bull Dempsey, Joe wins in a squash match, brawling outside after the match (between Joe and Finn?)

    ***End of the taping*

    *** no match for Enzo & Big Cass*

    ---

    **Takeover Dallas card**

    * Finn Bálor vs. Samoa Joe II
    * Bayley vs. Asuka
    * Sami Zayn vs. Shinsuke Nakamura
    * American Alpha vs. Dash and Dawson
    * Baron Corbin vs. Austin Aries
    * Apollo Crews vs. The Drifter


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,748 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Would be funny if Takeover Dallas made Wrestlemania look bad like other NXT PPVs have done before, I'll be 100% honest im already more interested in the top 3 matches than either Reigns/HHH or Brock/Wyatt


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    Would be funny if Takeover Dallas made Wrestlemania look bad like other NXT PPVs have done before, I'll be 100% honest im already more interested in the top 3 matches than either Reigns/HHH or Brock/Wyatt

    It has the potential to make Mania look awful. In effect, HHH has buried himself!


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,138 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    You teases! I don't want to read the spoilers but you're tempting me.
    So when roughly would those matches start airing?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,853 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    You teases! I don't want to read the spoilers but you're tempting me.
    So when roughly would those matches start airing?

    March 9th, 16th and 23rd I think


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    All those episodes sound incredible!

    NXT is just destroying Raw!


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