Dublin Bus - routes 145/45a - new timetables

haulier

There would appear to be a little problem with an alteration to the new 145 timetable. Originally [if my memory serves me correct] service from Ballywaltrim [Monday-Friday] was 0610/0625/0640 7 every 10 mins.

However [after local meetings / protests in Kilmacanogue?] there appears [on the timetable a few moments ago - not necessarily the one you get now] a mention of an 0735 Kilmacanogue-Heuston - no problems, it gives locals a service direct to city centre.

However, the way the timetable is presently worded, it appears there is a gap between 0650 & the 0735 departure - or am I reading it wrong ???

Victor

http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/14511/ - 145
http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/145111/ - 145 Revised Route

I think it is just badly worded. I think they mean 0610, 0625, 0640 and then every 10 minutes, plus the 0735 from Kilmacanogue, but one would be left wondering.

coylemj

T/T, M/F, B/W

OK, I'm pretty sure T/T means timetable but can we lighten up on the abbreviations/acronyms please - I don't know what the OP means by M/F or B/W and I do use the 145, got one home last night.

LXFlyer

haulier wrote: »

There would appear to be a little problem with an alteration to the NEW 145 T/T.
Originally [ if my memory serves me correcty ] service from B/W [ M/F] was 0610/0625/0640 7 every 10 mins.

However [ after local meetings/ protests in KILMAC ??? ] there appears [ on the T/T a few momenrs ago - not necessesery the one u get NOW] a mention of an 0735 KILMAC/ HEUSTON - no problems, it gives locals a servive DIRECT to CITY CENTRE.

However, the way the T/T is presently worded, it appears there is a gap between 0650 & the 0735 departure - or am I reading it wrong ???

It's a presentation error - as Victor states the buses are from Ballywaltrim at 06:10, 06:25, 06:40, 06:50 and then every 10 minutes until 21:00.
There is an extra bus from Kilmacanogue to Heuston at 07:35.

coylemj wrote: »

T/T, M/F, B/W

OK, I'm pretty sure T/T means timetable but can we lighten up on the abbreviations/acronyms please - I don't know what the OP means by M/F or B/W and I do use the 145, got one home last night.

I'd have to agree. The opening post is almost written in code. How hard is it for people to write things properly?

However, I would say that they are:
T/T = Timetable
M/F = Monday to Friday
B/W = Ballywaltrim
KILMAC = Kilmacanogue

poggyone

The big mistake here is no increase of service after 2100.

thomasj

poggyone wrote: »

The big mistake here is no increase of service after 2100.

Be grateful you're not using the 39A. That reduces to 20 mins after 6pm

punisher5112

They could create more marking in's if these high frequency routes were to be improved as even 10 minute service is'nt enough.

There should also be expresso type 145 but limited stops as the running time on them is huge.

haulier

LXFLYER - Howhard is it for your beloved DB to wrire their timetables properly for their customers

LXFlyer

haulier wrote: »

LXFLYER - Howhard is it for your beloved DB to wrire their timetables properly for their customers

They are not my beloved anything, and there's no need for that kind of comment.

I just explained the fact that it's clearly an error.

Of course it should have been done properly in the first place - that's kind of basic, and it needs to be fixed as it is going to cause nothing but confusion otherwise.

thomasj

Had to endure nearly 20 minute wait for a 39A this morning during the morning peak.

Here's hoping the new revised timetables do what they promise they will do.

LXFlyer

thomasj wrote: »

Had to endure nearly 20 minute wait for a 39A this morning during the morning peak.

Here's hoping the new revised timetables do what they promise they will do.

That sounds more like there was a bus missing for whatever reason.

V_Moth

What is the point of the "d" route variation to the 145 services departing from Heuston at 2325?

Also, I find that 0610 is far too late for services to start from Bray towards Heuston. 0530 would be more reasonable and would allow for connections on early Irish Rail services. A midnight service ex Heuston probably wouldn't go amiss either.

LXFlyer

V_Moth wrote: »

What is the point of the "d" route variation to the 145 services departing from Heuston at 2325?

Also, I find that 0610 is far too late for services to start from Bray towards Heuston. 0530 would be more reasonable and would allow for connections on early Irish Rail services. A midnight service ex Heuston probably wouldn't go amiss either.

It is making the point that the last bus from the main city centre stop (D'Olier Street) is at 23:30.

All of the cross-city buses should have this - but only certain ones actually do.

Annasopra

lxflyer wrote: »

It is making the point that the last bus from the main city centre stop (D'Olier Street) is at 23:30.

All of the cross-city buses should have this - but only certain ones actually do.

Does that mean the first stop is Dolier st not Heuston?

LXFlyer

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Does that mean the first stop is Dolier st not Heuston?

No, it means it departs Heuston at 23:25, and that it also has an official departure time from the D'Olier Street stop at 23:30. It serves all stops.

Unlike all other departures on cross-city routes, the final cross-city services have official departure times from the city centre stop, which they must wait until.

That footnote is just highlighting that it departs the D'Olier Street stop at 23:30.

Look at the 11 timetable to see what I mean:
http://dublinbus.ie/en/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/11/

The 23:00 departure from Wadelai will not leave O'Connell Street until 23:30, and the 23:00 departure from Sandyford will also not leave O'Connell Street until 23:30.

V_Moth

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Does that mean the first stop is Dolier st not Heuston?

That is exactly what I thought when I first saw the timetable. I think it just adds confusion to the timetable.

LXFlyer

V_Moth wrote: »

That is exactly what I thought when I first saw the timetable. I think it just adds confusion to the timetable.

Well it is providing clarity about the final departure time from the main city centre stop - that is something that every cross-city bus timetable should show given that Dublin Bus still insist on only showing departure times from their route termini.

However, I think it probably could do with rewording. Perhaps "d From Heuston Rail Station and departs D’Olier St. at 23:30" would read better.

haulier

Revised145 timetable now revised again. The situation is much clearer, job is done - maybe DB were lurking at our musings on the matter !!

LXFlyer

haulier wrote: »

Revised145 timetable now revised again. The situation is much clearer, job is done - maybe DB were lurking at our musings on the matter !!

Agreed - it's much clearer, and certainly should not cause confusion. That is how it should have looked in the first place.

punisher5112

Buses have always departed at 2330 as this was also done 100 years or so ago when there were trams.

145 was changed a while back as it use to leave heuston at 2320 but 5mins was added as drivers were getting grief for leaving people behind.

LXFlyer

punisher5112 wrote: »

Buses have always departed at 2330 as this was also done 100 years or so ago when there were trams.

Indeed, that may as well be true, but looking at certain cross-city timetables how is anyone not familiar with the bus service to know this?


On some of the routes it isn't mentioned at all!

thomasj

20 minute wait for a 39a for the second day in a row. :mad:

poggyone

thomasj wrote: »

20 minute wait for a 39a for the second day in a row. :mad:

What has this got to do with the 145?