Ageless cars?

Viper_JB

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

A box on wheels or a melted plastic on wheels looks very aged.

In your opinion ya correct

jimgoose

Viper_JB wrote: »

In your opinion ya correct

Problem with this "ageless" malarkey is it's all got to do with people and their perceptions of aesthetics, memories, experience, etc. There's always some nutter for whom the sight of an orange, automatic Hillman Hunter with outsize fluffy-dice on the rear view mirror will bring back flowers and meadows and chocolate and that first kiss! :pac:

Viper_JB

jimgoose wrote: »

Problem with this "ageless" malarkey is it's all got to do with people and their perceptions of aesthetics, memories, experience, etc. There's always some nutter for whom the sight of an orange, automatic Hillman Hunter with outsize fluffy-dice on the rear view mirror will bring back flowers and meadows and chocolate and that first kiss! :pac:

Ya big time, so no right or wrong answer really just opinions...

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Viper_JB wrote: »

Ya big time, so no right or wrong answer really just opinions...

My box on wheels '68 is ageless.
That statement makes sense given some of the BS on this thread.
It's just going round and round now.
Can we not just look at it diffrently? I mean it clant be that diffcult for the rust of us to agree?

jimgoose

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

My box on wheels '68 is ageless...

You mean the Newport? They're gorgeous. :cool:

Viper_JB

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

That statement makes sense given some of the BS on this thread.

That's the kinda statement I take issue with really, just because you don't agree with it doesn't make it BS, it's like you've decided to make yourself self appointed judge of what's what on here.

Sorry for OT posts, I'm done now...

dr.fuzzenstein

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

My box on wheels '68 is ageless.
That statement makes sense given some of the BS on this thread.
It's just going round and round now.
Can we not just look at it diffrently? I mean it clant be that diffcult for the rust of us to agree?

We can all agree on rust...
Relax, it's only the internet.

OldMrBrennan83

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dr.fuzzenstein

VeVeX

JPF82 wrote: »

The mark 1 Audi TT was launched in 1998. Not its biggest fan but it has aged well.

Agreed.

Also the S3 of the same period still looks fantastic -

Cleveland Hot Pocket

So does the mark 2 fiesta IMO

Cleveland Hot Pocket

And this cortina is so modern it should have a 161 plate

jimgoose

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

...<Batmobile>...

That was a minimally-modified Lincoln Futura concept car. Remember what I was saying about the Jetsons? :pac:

dr.fuzzenstein

Now that is a classy motor Cleve. Love the Cortina!

Cleveland Hot Pocket

jimgoose wrote: »

That was a minimally-modified Lincoln Futura concept car. Remember what I was saying about the Jetsons? :pac:

Futura? Wow it must be ageless.
Like the Peugeot Corolla 1.9d... it just gets better with age.

JPF82

VeVeX wrote: »

Agreed.

Also the S3 of the same period still looks fantastic -

I've always liked those. Might be a future purchase for me if I can find a clean one. I looked at them before but settled on a Mark 5 Golf GTI.

dr.fuzzenstein

jimgoose wrote: »

That was a minimally-modified Lincoln Futura concept car. Remember what I was saying about the Jetsons? :pac:

We were cheated out of the future! It's all wrong!
(Hops in DeLorean to set things right)

Tea 1000

jimgoose wrote: »

Problem with this "ageless" malarkey is it's all got to do with people and their perceptions of aesthetics, memories, experience, etc. There's always some nutter for whom the sight of an orange, automatic Hillman Hunter with outsize fluffy-dice on the rear view mirror will bring back flowers and meadows and chocolate and that first kiss! :pac:

I think the title of the thread is at odds with the first post.
Ageless is not really as descriptive as "timeless" when it comes to style.
A Jag E-Type could be considered "timeless" as in it will always look good. But it's not a design that you could put a new reg on it and fool people.
Those are two different things really.
The Audi A2 is a good example. Not really a good looking car, probably will look very dated in 10 years, however because of the new trend towards taller cars, you could well take one and give it a good claybar and polish, stick on new wheels and tyres, and a 151 plate and arrive up to some friends house to show them your new car and most would probably accept it as fact that it's a new car without even thinking "it's a bit old looking".
However, a Mk1 Golf certainly does not fit that bill. You can put your finger in the panel gaps and could almost limbo under the friggin thing with the 70's ground clearance for a start. That's before we get to the whole 70's look about the car! If you cleaned one up and drove it up to friends houses with a 151 plate, I can't think of anyone who'd be fooled, no matter how car-ignorant they were. "Lovely clean car that. What's the story with the reg though?" is the most likely statement!!
I think that's the main point of confusion in this thread. Timeless, classic designs that'll look good probably forever are one thing, looking like you could fool someone into thinking it's genuinely a 151 car is completely different.

dr.fuzzenstein

I'd say most of us are aware of that, but otherwise this would have been a very short thread.
Post 1: Audi A2, 247 thanks, /thread.

(though I still stand behind my choice of C111)

kiteman

Tea 1000 wrote: »

I think the title of the thread is at odds with the first post.
Ageless is not really as descriptive as "timeless" when it comes to style.
A Jag E-Type could be considered "timeless" as in it will always look good. But it's not a design that you could put a new reg on it and fool people.
Those are two different things really.
The Audi A2 is a good example. Not really a good looking car, probably will look very dated in 10 years, however because of the new trend towards taller cars, you could well take one and give it a good claybar and polish, stick on new wheels and tyres, and a 151 plate and arrive up to some friends house to show them your new car and most would probably accept it as fact that it's a new car without even thinking "it's a bit old looking".
However, a Mk1 Golf certainly does not fit that bill. You can put your finger in the panel gaps and could almost limbo under the friggin thing with the 70's ground clearance for a start. That's before we get to the whole 70's look about the car! If you cleaned one up and drove it up to friends houses with a 151 plate, I can't think of anyone who'd be fooled, no matter how car-ignorant they were. "Lovely clean car that. What's the story with the reg though?" is the most likely statement!!
I think that's the main point of confusion in this thread. Timeless, classic designs that'll look good probably forever are one thing, looking like you could fool someone into thinking it's genuinely a 151 car is completely different.

I think peoples perception of what the original post was intended to mean, was hugely misunderstood by most guys who posted. Thankfully it was too, as it made it all the more interesting as people just uploaded photos and comments of their favourite cars.

kiteman

I meant too add, I cant wait till I reach 50 posts, so I can bore you all with photos of the cars I've owned in the last 15 years or so.

kiteman

In an effort to get me to 50 posts sooner, I wish to state my 00 Mazda Xedos 9 is timeless and ageless, as far as I'm concerned.

Also, please keep this thread going. Please.

JohnBoy26

This would nearly look better with a 151 plate than some of the cars in here

Kintarō Hattori

Right, I don't want to annoy anyone but I think the StreetKa still looks modern despite having come out in 2003. Granted there weren't many around but the styling appears relatively current still.

Cleveland?

berger89

Mustang

*dream car*

kiteman

at one time I did actually own 2 Nissan S'cargo vans. They were brilliant to drive, very fast and amazingly stable for such a high sided car.
If I had one now I'd stick a 151 plate on it for a giggle.

Cheensbo

kiteman wrote: »

at one time I did actually own 2 Nissan S'cargo vans. They were brilliant to drive, very fast and amazingly stable for such a high sided car.
If I had one now I'd stick a 151 plate on it for a giggle.

"And everytime I'd drive past people would say: look at that escargot"

kiteman

Cheensbo wrote: »

"And everytime I'd drive past people would say: look at that escargot"

HeHeHe

kiteman

I know it looked like a frog, but it was actually called the S'cargo

Cheensbo

kiteman wrote: »

I know it looked like a frog, but it was actually called the S'cargo

Sorry its a line from some film, popped into my head when I saw the name, at a longshot it may have been from richie rich??

kiteman

Cheensbo wrote: »

Sorry its a line from some film, popped into my head when I saw the name, at a longshot it may have been from richie rich??

Still a good one

advertsfox

Only posted this in the "saw today" thread, ageless in my opinion - and gorgeous for a 2004.

kiteman

Yes that is a beautiful estate car. Though at the price one would expect pure style, and it has it in shedloads.

OldMrBrennan83

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HandsomeDan

Always thought the Talbot 309 had an ageless quality to it.

Tea 1000

Cheensbo wrote: »

Sorry its a line from some film, popped into my head when I saw the name, at a longshot it may have been from richie rich??

Nope, it's from a much better film than Richie Rich. It's from Trading Places. A classic!

Tea 1000

HandsomeDan wrote: »

Always thought the Talbot 309 had an ageless quality to it.

Ya - ageless in that no matter how far back in time you go it'll still look sh!te.

H3llR4iser

Now, I should get one of these:



The puke yellow color is the highlight, I would have it in no other pigmentation!

Import it from Italy and slam a 151 plate on it, so that Paulie down the road will go "look at that gobsh1te, got a new 151 car...gotta go get meself one now!"

SEPT 23 1989

noelf

I will stick my head up one more time are yiz ready .. take aim ..

Skylinehead

noelf wrote: »

I will stick my head up one more time are yiz ready .. take aim ..

Can't think of any 151s with popups....

Kintarō Hattori

noelf wrote: »

I will stick my head up one more time are yiz ready .. take aim ..

Ah now. It's a lovely looking car.... for it's time but:

Pop up lights are old fashioned now
The bumper design is old hat
Whichever style of original alloys it'd wear just look old

Wossack

I move that new proposals actually have a 151 reg plate photoshopped on, and for the poster to have a good long look at it before posting

dr.fuzzenstein

Skylinehead wrote: »

Can't think of any 151s with popups....

Yeah, but its the carmakers that are wrong. Any car with popups is automatically cooler than any car that doesn't. Scientific fact! Its the reptilian conspiracy that has conspired with the grey aliens to get rid if them to make the world a worse place.

wendell borton

porsche boy

you wont see a car being designed with pop up headlights any more, pedestrian safety and all that

Victor Meldrew

HandsomeDan wrote: »

Em, most of these cars look positively ancient. Delusional much?

Have to agree. With the exception of the e46 Coupe (in nice spec only), I have to agree with Dan here...

Some are lovely. but, there are too many stylng cues are driven by safety and economy such as high belt lines, thick "A" pillers" and polycarbonate headlights and LED technology has just changed the looks too much.

dr.fuzzenstein

porsche boy wrote: »

you wont see a car being designed with pop up headlights any more, pedestrian safety and all that

Personally I think that was a very poor decision. Frankly I think its worth it.

YbFocus

wendell borton wrote: »

I really hope that was sarcastic?
If it wasn't then how in gods name can you imagine that with a 151 plate on it?

Edit: Sounds a little attacking but its not I'm curious

Victor Meldrew

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

I'd say most of us are aware of that, but otherwise this would have been a very short thread.
Post 1: Audi A2, 247 thanks, /thread.

(though I still stand behind my choice of C111)

The Audi A2 is the exception, but then it was too different at launch.