Islamic Militants kill 2,000 people in Nigeria in one attack

Highflyer13

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The Russian situation is occuring because of that little twerp Putin and his macho image he likes to promote. That is the only reason. Nothing religious about it imo. Its small man syndrome at a national level.

jimgoose

Looks like it'll have to be the doughboys of First Recon, as usual. Who knew.

Baggy Trousers

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

I read an article just yesterday about how Nigerian families were being compensated for oil spills caused by shell.

That's different to what I said. Its really the least the oil companies can do.

shruikan2553

Grayson wrote: »

Look at Russia where you can't drive a car if you're gay. Like the other thread title says it's turning into a Christian Saudi.

Some links I found interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country - Lots of ****holes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_by_country - Many ****holes, some ok, quite a few of the ok countries would still be seen a a bit backward but at least you arent being killed,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestantism_by_country - Still a few ****holes, the better countries would be more progressive
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Importance_of_religion_by_country - I wouldnt really be planning any holidays to the most religious countries. Some of the communist or former communist countries wouldnt be very religious but they have been having an increase in religion like Russia.

Something I have learnt is that most countries are ****holes I would rather avoid.

Grayson

Highflyer13 wrote: »

^^^^^^^^^^^^

The Russian situation is occuring because of that little twerp Putin and his macho image he likes to promote. That is the only reason. Nothing religious about it imo. Its small man syndrome at a national level.

It's a separate thread but religion is involved. the orthodox church is very anti gay and has been pushing for this stuff. Putin jumped on the band wagon because it's a popular move. And it's a popular move because of the church.

Grayson

shruikan2553 wrote: »

Something I have learnt is that most countries are ****holes I would rather avoid.

And Texas

tom_k

Part of the problem in this situation is the lack of reporters either local or foreign on the ground in this area. Also the Nigerian government initially denied that the attack had taken place and then downplayed the numbers that had been killed or displaced.

The Nigerian government seems unwilling or unable to counter the Boko Haram threat despite the fact that an Army base was overran in the Baga attack which now leaves Borno state almost under the complete control of Boko Haram.

This article from Nigeria's News Express website details what was initially claimed to be a victory for Nigerian Forces which in reality turned out to be the opposite.

http://www.newsexpressngr.com/news/detail.php?news=8954&title=Boko-Haram-suffers-heavy-defeat-in-surprise-attack-on-military-base

SpaceTime

Paris will inevitably get more coverage because it's familiar. France is our next door neighbour. We've practically all been there, know French people, and it's culturally, physically and linguistically very very close to Ireland.
I've walked those streets. I know what Paris looks, feels and smells like.

The attack was also directly on the media and was about threatening journalists to keep them inline.

This attack is horrific too and extremely shocking. One horrendous event after another this January. It's really turning into a dismal year.

2000 people is an act of war never mind terrorism!
RIP to all those people and condolences to the tens of thousands that will be indirectly impacted by this.

These guys are inflicting misery on vast numbers of people and will cause humanitarian and refugee crisis!

jimgoose

Grayson wrote: »

And Texas

Texas is the greatest nation on Earth, boy.

Clermont1098

Highflyer13 wrote: »

Its amazing the lack of coverage this is getting in comparison to the Paris attacks. Surely it should be propelled to the same platform.

No. It's a problem for Nigeria and their neighbours to sort. I'm interested in news from Europe and countries like the States and Canada.

Iwasfrozen

Clermont1098 wrote: »

No. It's a problem for Nigeria and their neighbours to sort. I'm interested in news from Europe and countries like the States and Canada.

I disagree completely human rights abuses are a world problem.

jimgoose

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I disagree completely human rights abuses are a world problem.

Couldn't agree more, chief. If there's one thing that scares these gowls more than a pissed-off SEAL, it's a little girl with school books.

The Bould Rabbit

Clermont1098 wrote: »

No. It's a problem for Nigeria and their neighbours to sort. I'm interested in news from Europe and countries like the States and Canada.

Spot on. Nigeria and the neighbouring countries should be the first responders here and its up to them to sort out problems in their own neck of the woods before turning to the international community.

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I disagree completely human rights abuses are a world problem.

Not sure I understand this. Are you saying there are human rights abuses worldwide or suggesting that such abuses in one country are the responsibility of the rest of the world?

IanOBo

Why is the death of thousands being largely ignored, just because of where they are from. Shame

jackofalltrades

Sickening news to hear about.

entropi wrote: »

When most of the world media you will see is controlled by the white man, you'll mainly see issues that affect the white man. As sad as this is, its the truth.

The media in this country generally report news based on what most people want to hear about. There's no racial agenda behind it.
The events that happened in Paris are more relatable and significant for most people in this country.

RobertKK wrote: »

But sometimes things like Twink's dog makes more news coverage than much more serious and devastating events.

There's only a finite amount of depressing news people can deal with, before they turn off the News.
And as cynical as it sounds, I think a lot of people suffer from "compassion fatigue" when it comes to bad news from Africa.
Events that happen far away and occur repeatedly just remind them of how powerless they are.
That's why they'll invest their time in a twitter campaign against some PUA, because there's some hope that it might actually achieve a result.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Boring username wrote: »

I think it speaks volumes that the likes of Russell Brand and members of the St. Louis Rams are strangely silent when a genuine massacre like this takes place.

bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-30221442

Not to mention the thousands of smug liberals who were falling over themselves to call for some small time pick up artist to be banned from the UK on facebook and twitter recently. I guess there exists a peculiar phenomenon of acceptable topics that are considered fashionable to support.

Why would St Louis Rams football players be as concerned with this atrocity seeing as it didn't happen in the state they play football in.

People in general are naturally far more concerned about events that happen in areas close to them.

Highflyer13

Clermont1098 wrote: »

No. It's a problem for Nigeria and their neighbours to sort. I'm interested in news from Europe and countries like the States and Canada.

Ignorance is bliss.

Clermont1098

Highflyer13 wrote: »

Ignorance is bliss.

What are you trying to say?

Clermont1098

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I disagree completely human rights abuses are a world problem.

How and why? It's a Nigerian problem. That's where the responsibility is.

Guy:Incognito

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I disagree completely human rights abuses are a world problem.

Do Nigerians care much about our issues? Or does it only work one way?

shruikan2553

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Do Nigerians care much about our issues? Or does it only work one way?

I dont think starving african children or gays being beaten in Russia are too worried about water charges. **** em.

Clermont1098

shruikan2553 wrote: »

I dont think starving african children or gays being beaten in Russia are too worried about water charges. **** em.

I can't do anything for them. I'm not going to fly out there and change anything. They'll be starving in a hundred years if you ask me. Russia has the right to make its own laws. I think it's despicable but I can do anything to change Russia. I can do something here to help gays get married.

Guy:Incognito

shruikan2553 wrote: »

I dont think starving african children or gays being beaten in Russia are too worried about water charges. **** em.

Everyone in Africa isn't starving to death. I hear they have cars and cities and everything now.:rolleyes:


Homeless people in Ireland probably don't spend much time worrying about the plight of Nigerians being killed either.

Clermont1098

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Everyone in Africa isn't starving to death. I hear they have cars and cities and everything now.:rolleyes:

Great. A developed society. They can sort it.

the nikkei is rising

Unfortunately the news is limited by both time and column inches and they have decided to apportion more time to stories that are more culturally and geographically relevant to us.

I don't think it's racist to care more about a minor story from your local town or a terror attack in a society similar to our own than you would about a mass murder half the world away in a cultural context you are unable to properly imagine.

The Bould Rabbit

shruikan2553 wrote: »

I dont think starving african children or gays being beaten in Russia are too worried about water charges. **** em.

Because starving kids in Africa and victims of gay bashing in Russia are the only people who follow the news in those places of course.

ChunkyLover54

somuj wrote: »

II would love to live in a country who inhabitants valued reason and logic and not superstitious nonsense.

If you are a resident in Ireland then, for all intents and purposes, you do.

shruikan2553

Clermont1098 wrote: »

I can't do anything for them. I'm not going to fly out there and change anything. They'll be starving in a hundred years if you ask me. Russia has the right to make its own laws. I think it's despicable but I can do anything to change Russia. I can do something here to help gays get married.

Indeed but ignoring it isn't going to help either. Human rights abuses are still human rights abuses regardless of where they happen.

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Everyone in Africa isn't starving to death. I hear they have cars and cities and everything now.:rolleyes:


Homeless people in Ireland probably don't spend much time worrying about the plight of Nigerians being killed either.

Now youre getting it. What issues about Ireland would you expect Nigeria to care about? Any massacres recently?

Clermont1098

shruikan2553 wrote: »

Indeed but ignoring it isn't going to help either. Human rights abuses are still human rights abuses regardless of where they happen.



Now youre getting it. What issues about Ireland would you expect Nigeria to care about? Any massacres recently?

Do you mean Nigerian media?

whupdedo

The simple reason is extremists killing people we will never have anything in common with, in places we have never heard of or will never visit, and in a place that will never have any economic significance in our lives, will only ever make the news on slow news days

As sad and all as it is it means very little to most people in western society what happens in Africa, and I would assume vice versa on there behalf

Baggy Trousers

whupdedo wrote: »

As sad and all as it is it means very little to most people in western society what happens in Africa, and I would assume vice versa on there behalf

Unless it's EBOLA and there is a risk to the west.

Did you see how nuts the media and people here got late last year when there were a few cases in USA/Europe?
It's the utterly selfish nature of modern society.

PizzamanIRL

Why do they do this? Do they think murdering 2,000 will get them what they want? Absolutely pointless. Those groups are complete and utter bastards.

Clermont1098

Baggy Trousers wrote: »

Unless it's EBOLA and there is a risk to the west.

Did you see how nuts the media and people here got late last year when there were a few cases in USA/Europe?
It's the utterly selfish nature of modern society.

Sounds like common sense to me.

whupdedo

Baggy Trousers wrote: »

Unless it's EBOLA and there is a risk to the west.


It's the utterly selfish nature of modern society.

How is it selfish to want to stop a contagious disease from spreading, not withstanding the amount of money and medical supplies and expertise sent by western countries

Baggy Trousers

whupdedo wrote: »

How is it selfish to want to stop a contagious disease from spreading, not withstanding the amount of money and medical supplies and expertise sent by western countries

It first appeared in 1970s. The west only really mobilised or starting producing vaccines when it hit USA.

whupdedo

Baggy Trousers wrote: »

It first appeared in 1970s. The west only really mobilised or starting producing vaccines when it hit USA.

When it's in Africa its Africa's problem, but when it reaches western countries they will take every precaution to stop it from spreading

Clermont1098

whupdedo wrote: »

When it's in Africa its Africa's problem, but when it reaches western countries they will take every precaution to stop it from spreading

Of course. I think that's only common sense.

Baggy Trousers

Clermont1098 wrote: »

Of course. I think that's only common sense.

My point if you go back to read it was that Africa will never dominate the western media unless the west is at risk. This is why the massacre of 2000 innocents in Nigeria by Islamic extremists will not get the same attention as the 20 innocents in Paris.

Clermont1098

Baggy Trousers wrote: »

My point if you go back to read it was that Africa will never dominate the western media unless the west is at risk. This is why the massacre of 2000 innocents in Nigeria by Islamic extremists will not get the same attention as the 20 innocents in Paris.

And it should be that way. I thought it was 16? 12 at Charlie, 4 at the shop? Have more died.

cerastes

Grayson wrote: »

Seriously? the problem isn't islam. It's people like this.

These are a very backwards people. they believe all kinds of ****.

In the Central African Republic you have the Anti-balaka. They massacre Muslims and are just as bad as Muslim militants.

In Uganda you have the Lords Resistance Army under Joseph Kony. They are responsible for multiple atrocities and train child soldiers.

If course you'll look at that and you won't say that Christianity is the problem. It's one standard for Muslims and one standard for Christians. When a Muslim does something it's representative of all of Islam. When a Christian does something it's an aberration.

the problem is that these are people in incredibly isolated areas who will use violence to get their means. They'll tie their flag to whatever the local religion is. If they are from a Christian area suddenly they are Christian militants. If they are from a Muslim area then they are islamic militants. Really it's down to cultural/tribal differences and they just use the religion to differentiate. Like northern Ireland most of these conflicts have little to do with religion and they're just labels that are applied to underlying issues that exist between disparate cultural/ethnic groups.

The best example of this is Rwanda. When the genocide occurred there a lot of churches actually gave their support to the genocide. Yet that's not considered a "Christian" genocide. mainly because both sides were Christian so the ethnic fault-lines were more visible.

Extreme poverty and lack of education, add a dash of oil companies raping the place, take away peoples traditional agricultural means, a pinch of corruption, bake for, oh I dont know, 50 years or so, voila!

Deleted User wrote: »

There's no words for this really. It's pretty much unfathomable.

Its horrific, but its a drop in the ocean to stuff even mentioned in this thread, hundreds of thousands have died to bring them democracy, poor fools.

ChunkyLover54 wrote: »

Yeah, especially after they captured peoples hearts in 2014.

I always thought it was their minds they were going after, hmm

Highflyer13 wrote: »

How are these nutters so deranged and sadistic. They are not born like that for sure.

dissed doc wrote: »

For example, Angela Merkel was on her new years day address critical of Pegida, who since September were warning about Islamic extremism and the dangers. She wanted it to be pigeonholed as a racist, hate organisation, and to ignore the concerns of the middle ground.
The largest threat to democracy now and for the future in europe, is the latent presence of Islamic extremists. It is the new Nazism, IMO.

Democracy you say, hmmm, nice idea alright.

somuj wrote: »

I'm with you. I think all religion is nonsense. People fighting wars and hating each other over some non existent diety. I would love to live in a country who inhabitants valued reason and logic and not superstitious nonsense.

Vulcan?

jimgoose wrote: »

Texas is the greatest nation on Earth, boy.

Maybe if they secede.

Clermont1098 wrote: »

I can't do anything for them. I'm not going to fly out there and change anything. They'll be starving in a hundred years if you ask me. Russia has the right to make its own laws. I think it's despicable but I can do anything to change Russia. I can do something here to help gays get married.

Marry one?

Baggy Trousers

Clermont1098 wrote: »

And it should be that way. I thought it was 16? 12 at Charlie, 4 at the shop? Have more died.

Ok 16, again you missed the point.

In my opinion it is only a matter of time before Boko Haram take their fight to the west.

Clermont1098

cerastes wrote: »

Marry one?

Personalised comment.

cerastes

Clermont1098 wrote: »

Personalised comment.

I was just kidding, I was going on the basis you were straight and meant you support gay marriage here but not directly, and joked that wanted to help the cause, by marrying, its a joke, its not personal and Ive nothing against non traditional/straight marriages.
I think the greater issue is not just the 2000 people that have died but ongoing, peoples rights (which in may cases are minimal) are trappled on, happens everywhere, from one extreme to to the other, the ultimate being murdered. Also, western Govts intervene in foreign adventures for reasons that are not just or noble, then trumpet they are democracies and wonder why there is a reaction eventually? and many people are so blinded or unaware of what has occurred in history as to make them unable to connect the dots as to why some people/religions/groups despise others.
Well its probably because they have been having their rights and lives trampled at the barrel of a gun (threat of a bomb) for so long.
Iraq didnt start in 1990 or 2003, Certain countries have been bombing democracy into people since they could get bombs on planes and shooting it into them from long before that, its no wonder when this happens that only the extreme survive and get support from a locality/region becuase they will know in their own experience this is a a natural evolution.

VEN

i can almost hear the smacking of solicitors lips again… theres more on the way, theres been a massacre in nigeria, get ready.

VEN

VEN wrote: »

i can almost hear the smacking of solicitors lips again… theres more on the way, theres been a massacre in nigeria, get ready.

Have another can and go to sleep.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Is it only terrorism when the killing is conducted by muslims?

Hachiko

Zack Morris wrote: »

Islam is getting a bad rep in 2015.

most messed up religion out there tbh

Muahahaha

Highflyer13 wrote: »

Its amazing the lack of coverage this is getting in comparison to the Paris attacks. Surely it should be propelled to the same platform.

no doubt, I read the article on the Irish Times about what Boko Harem just did, its pretty disgusting. What I hadn't realised though this that they have killed 10,000 people in the last 12 months.

10,000 people slaughtered by Boko Harem in 12 months is the equivalent of 9/11 three times over. Yet this has hardly made a blip on the world radar.

Shame on all of us, something is not right here :mad:

BlaasForRafa

Muahahaha wrote: »

no doubt, I read the article on the Irish Times about what Boko Harem just did, its pretty disgusting. What I hadn't realised though this that they have killed 10,000 people in the last 12 months.

10,000 people slaughtered by Boko Harem in 12 months is the equivalent of 9/11 three times over. Yet this has hardly made a blip on the world radar.

Shame on all of us, something is not right here :mad:

Shame on us? We're not the ones going around killing people.

It's about time africa got it's act together, it's 50 years or more since the end of colonialism, they can't blame the west for ever.

wes

Muahahaha wrote: »

no doubt, I read the article on the Irish Times about what Boko Harem just did, its pretty disgusting. What I hadn't realised though this that they have killed 10,000 people in the last 12 months.

10,000 people slaughtered by Boko Harem in 12 months is the equivalent of 9/11 three times over. Yet this has hardly made a blip on the world radar.

Shame on all of us, something is not right here :mad:

That nothing at all compared to some of the conflicts, for example the war in the Congo which by 2008, had resulted in a estimated 5 millions deaths, which I think make it the single deadliest conflict since World War 2, received very little news coverage, and that is just one example. Dozens of other conflicts that don't receive much news coverage.

As for Boko Haram, hopefully the Nigerian government can put them down, and that they don't end up like the LRA, causing death and destruction for years.