Looking for cost of building a house in 2015

Tefral

ticket wrote: »

Hi,

I am currently living in Australia and my house plans have just been granted.I was just wondering if anyone has got any building prices for new houses around wexford?

I am building a 2900sq feet and I am looking at getting a builder to build my house instead of going the self build route. Has anyone got any prices or advise that might help.

Thanks

You'd be looking at around 350k ex fees and VAT

Scullydog

I just got 5 quotes for 333m2 two story house in Co Meath. Basic specifications, no kitchen, no bathrooms, no floors finishes.

1. €830,000 (€2,500/m2)
3. €697,000 (€2,100/m2)
3. €680,000 (€2,050/m2)
4. €667,000 (€2,000/m2)
5. €550,000 (€1,650/m2)

Any thoughts on the prices ?

BryanF

Scullydog wrote: »

I just got 5 quotes for 333m2 two story house in Co Meath. Basic specifications, no kitchen, no bathrooms, no floors finishes.

1. €830,000 (€2,500/m2)
3. €697,000 (€2,100/m2)
3. €680,000 (€2,050/m2)
4. €667,000 (€2,000/m2)
5. €550,000 (€1,650/m2)

Any thoughts on the prices ?

Sit down with preferred or lower two bidders and see what you can do to reduce

Mixupat

I've just started in Mayo. I'm building 2800 sq ft plus 420 sq ft garage with a contractor for quite a bit less. Slightly over 100 Euro per sq ft and includes kitchen, flooring and bathrooms (Decent PC Sums). Quality Spec on house too. A2 Ber with airtightness. Meath would be dearer than Mayo but should not be that much. I've left out some landscaping but that's about it. Ready to move in otherwise. I got 3 prices close to this from builders but a few others were up at 140 Euro per sq ft. To me those prices seem high, even the lowest but there will be many more on here who don't think so. I also went thru quite a bit with preferred builders and managed to get the prices down a bit also as recommended above.

Scullydog

Thanks Mixupat. I would agree with you. The prices seem exorbitant, but wanted to see what the forum thought. With your builders numbers, it would be more like €358,500. I'll have to find more reasonably priced builders from somewhere !

Mixupat

Prices between Meath and Mayo will differ so €358,500 will be a challenge but there is a lot to get to 550k. Have a look around and ask questions on these forums. Maybe builders will travel also for a job like yours.

lownhard

Scullydog wrote: »

Thanks Mixupat. I would agree with you. The prices seem exorbitant, but wanted to see what the forum thought. With your builders numbers, it would be more like €358,500. I'll have to find more reasonably priced builders from somewhere !

You got five prices...and in fact the lowest one is an outlier. It does sound on the saucy side but it probably just shows how much things are picking up on the east coast.

Want to save lot of money? Unless you have six kids, shave 100 sqm off your build. And maybe design with the potential from add luxuries (man cave/media room etc) in the future. Planning headache now....less mortgage for 30 years. Building at the mo myself. 207 sqm. 4 bed. More than enough space.

That 100sq ft talk was back in 2010, if you have a Dolorean handy...

Tefral

lownhard wrote: »

That 100sq ft talk was back in 2010, if you have a Dolorean handy...

Thats the prices stuff are getting built to builders finish around tipp/clare/limerick at the moment. Wouldnt expect that up around Meath though

Someyolk

Scullydog wrote: »

I just got 5 quotes for 333m2 two story house in Co Meath. Basic specifications, no kitchen, no bathrooms, no floors finishes.

1. €830,000 (€2,500/m2)
3. €697,000 (€2,100/m2)
3. €680,000 (€2,050/m2)
4. €667,000 (€2,000/m2)
5. €550,000 (€1,650/m2)

Any thoughts on the prices ?

I'm well on with a house in Meath (self build) and will build it for a fraction of that (finished with a garage). Even though I started before the new regs I think them prices look fairly steep and you should at The very least be able to knock100k or -150k off them quotes. It's going to cost you at least 50k to finish house off inside with kitchen etc. Maybe look at going down the project manager route rather than a main contractor.

mrshappy

Can anyone tell me what the average cost is in Cork, just read through the thread and it seems to vary depending on county. We are looking at getting a builder, have planning for 2,347sq ft (excluding attic space) so if anyone could give me a ball park figure, I would appreciate it

thewhitetable

Any ideas for the cost of building a small approx 750sqft single story house. Already have elec and water connected on site. It would be kitchen/living area, 2 bedrooms and bathroom. Not expensive fittings but would like it as energy efficient as possible. Thanks.

galwaytt

Scullydog wrote: »

I just got 5 quotes for 333m2 two story house in Co Meath. Basic specifications, no kitchen, no bathrooms, no floors finishes.

1. €830,000 (€2,500/m2)
3. €697,000 (€2,100/m2)
3. €680,000 (€2,050/m2)
4. €667,000 (€2,000/m2)
5. €550,000 (€1,650/m2)

Any thoughts on the prices ?

.......currently working on a 270m2 in the West to a very particular spec: € 640,000 .......

markqs

I would love to see the plans as to what the architect and or your specification is for materials and the location of the site etc including method of construction.

a builder should be charging you in the region of €100-€110/sqft

assume your house is 3,583sqft and lets take the higher rate of €110 this should be coming in the region of, say €400k

now this does not including for tarmacadam to driveways, lawns, fron walls, gates but should include for a builders finish i.e walls plastered and painted, doors, skirting and architrave fitted (including painting) timber, tiling and carpentary included, no allowance for sanitary ware, kitchen, furniture etc.

those prices seem excessive to say the least.

galwaytt

markqs wrote: »

I would love to see the plans as to what the architect and or your specification is for materials and the location of the site etc including method of construction.

a builder should be charging you in the region of €100-€110/sqft

assume your house is 3,583sqft and lets take the higher rate of €110 this should be coming in the region of, say €400k

now this does not including for tarmacadam to driveways, lawns, fron walls, gates but should include for a builders finish i.e walls plastered and painted, doors, skirting and architrave fitted (including painting) timber, tiling and carpentary included, no allowance for sanitary ware, kitchen, furniture etc.

those prices seem excessive to say the least.

I agree it's high, but it's what the arch wants, spec-wise, so who are we to challenge that !! Method of build is not a factor, but fit-out is. Fit out cost before anyone sets foot on site has already been costed at €220k..........

Your cost of €110 is too low though - €130 in Galway is more likely.

Tefral

galwaytt wrote: »

.......currently working on a 270m2 in the West to a very particular spec: € 640,000 .......

@Galwaytt, might be worth recommending to your clients some builders in Clare and Limerick to look at some of your jobs for you. The prices around here are maxing out at around €110/m2

sydthebeat

cronin_j wrote: »

@Galwaytt, might be worth recommending to your clients some builders in Clare and Limerick to look at some of your jobs for you. The prices around here are maxing out at around €110/m2

i dont think galwaytt will be doing that

the latest job im doing in Laois, 2906 sq ft, A2 rated, 2 prices in so far... one is €91/sq ft, the other €93/sq ft
VERY detailed spec to builders finish.

BryanF

sydthebeat wrote: »

i dont think galwaytt will be doing that

the latest job im doing in Laois, 2906 sq ft, A2 rated, 2 prices in so far... one is €91/sq ft, the other €93/sq ft
VERY detailed spec to builders finish.

Builders finish...

what in your opinion will it take to complete?

galwaytt

cronin_j wrote: »

@Galwaytt, might be worth recommending to your clients some builders in Clare and Limerick to look at some of your jobs for you. The prices around here are maxing out at around €110/m2

sydthebeat wrote: »

i dont think galwaytt will be doing that

the latest job im doing in Laois, 2906 sq ft, A2 rated, 2 prices in so far... one is €91/sq ft, the other €93/sq ft
VERY detailed spec to builders finish.

...it just goes to show: location, location, location.......does have in an influence.

..at €91/ft2 I'd be going through that tender with a microscope: personally I don't see how that builder can make a living at that price.

sydthebeat

BryanF wrote: »

Builders finish...

what in your opinion will it take to complete?

as you know thats a very open ended question.

clients want to source the kitchen / sanitary ware etc themselves so anything could be paid.

is there any point comparing finished (turn key) costs to get a true reflection of house building costs over builders finish?

i would suspect another €20/sqft would put a high quality finish inside.

site costs are obviously extra on top

sydthebeat

galwaytt wrote: »

...it just goes to show: location, location, location.......does have in an influence.

..at €91/ft2 I'd be going through that tender with a microscope: personally I don't see how that builder can make a living at that price.

my specifications are very detailed.

the hardest thing i am having to do these days is getting the builders to price as per the bloody spec.

on a previous job one builders spec came back with 150 blown cavity with "insulated palsterboard" internally.... where the spec was for 150 full fill board.
when queried the answer was "sure thats how we do it these days" :rolleyes:

galwaytt

sydthebeat wrote: »

my specifications are very detailed.

the hardest thing i am having to do these days is getting the builders to price as per the bloody spec.

True - and I have builders telling me why they won't : the cost of doing so. There's an awful lot of pricing going on and only a % hitting sites as actual builds.

CheezePleeze

This looks like an interesting -snip-

I am waiting for them to take my drawings and process them. Think they can start taing jobs in August. Its only going to cost a couple hundred euros for an accurate market price, AND the ability to change things (windows, roof cover etc) and see immediately how the overall price changes.

Watch this space:-)

naughto

Was at an engineer today looking for prices 2.5k to get to planning and another 6 k on top for completion

galwaytt

naughto wrote: »

Was at an engineer today looking for prices 2.5k to get to planning and another 6 k on top for completion

..those figures are similar to ones I've seen in the West recently.

naughto

galwaytt wrote: »

..those figures are similar to ones I've seen in the West recently.

Was told by a few that it was on the high side a lot are saying 1500 to 2 k max to planning and 5 to completion
Meeting another engineer tomorrow so will see if there's much in the difference

FiOT

I paid €2500 to an Engineer to take us as far as planning (Meath). That included any changes we wanted made up until the point of submission and any work that may have been required for further information (there wasn't any).

Just make sure you know what you're getting for the price they are quoting you and then you can compare!

galwaytt

naughto wrote: »

Was told by a few that it was on the high side a lot are saying 1500 to 2 k max to planning and 5 to completion
Meeting another engineer tomorrow so will see if there's much in the difference

It's all down to how competitive people want to be, for work. Just make sure you're comparing apples with apples. We're on a site in Galway now and fees are a factor of 2x the number we're talking about here.

teresat

Hi, Just wondering can anybody tell me the price per sq met for building a 2 storey detached house in Mayo in 2015,

Sorry if this has already been asked.

Calahonda52

teresat wrote: »

Hi, Just wondering can anybody tell me the price per sq met for building a 2 storey detached house in Mayo in 2015,

Sorry if this has already been asked.

https://www.scsi.ie/advice/house_rebuilding_calculator

Site will be on top as well as all services, and fees

teresat

Thanks @calahonda52

hexosan

Surely a large flashing banner could be added to the forum which states the cost to build a house is €1,200-€1,500/m2 which would assist with the daily posts and thread which ask the same question

893bet

So! Finished plastering today! House is plumbed first fix, electrical first fix, and fully plastered inside and out. No ground work completed.

2200 sq feet. 102K spent to date. Below all approx +/- 300

Planning costs/site transfer/insurance/council payment/engineer 10K
Foundations 16.5K
Block work 13K
Roof 14K
Windows 12K (trible glaze, 0.8 window. Cost price as family member owns a window company. Should have been 16-17K)
Poujoulate chimney system 8K
Plastering 10K
HRV 5.5K
Plumbing first 2.5K
Electrical first 3K
Airtighness material 2K
Insulation 3.5K
Misc 3K


Estimate to completion? 85K-90 not including driveway and landscaping, moveable furniture etc. This would be what I would see as a high quality finish including a 10K allowance for a kitchen excluding appliances, 6 K for a stairs, 5K for two high end stoves etc.

Time will tell!

teresat

Way to go, great to feel some completion, great detail o pricing, its eye opening. Best of luck with the rest, will keep a look out for updates!!!

lownhard

893bet wrote: »

So! Finished plastering today! House is plumbed first fix, electrical first fix, and fully plastered inside and out. No ground work completed.

2200 sq feet. 102K spent to date. Below all approx +/- 300

Planning costs/site transfer/insurance/council payment/engineer 10K
Foundations 16.5K
Block work 13K
Roof 14K
Windows 12K
Poujoulate chimney system 8K
Plastering 10K
HRV 5.5K
Plumbing first 2.5K
Electrical first 3K
Airtighness material 2K
Insulation 3.5K
Misc 3K


Estimate to completion? 85K-90 not including driveway and landscaping, moveable furniture etc. This would be what I would see as a high quality finish including a 10K allowance for a kitchen excluding appliances, 6 K for a stairs, 5K for two high end stoves etc.

Time will tell!

5.5k for mech and elec...I cannot see how that is possible. Using cheapest quotes I have I'm looking at about 35-40k for mech and elec in Dublin. Same size house


3.5k for insulation...how is this possible with meeting regs for Floors, walls, roof? 150mm xtratherm at 60 per board. Assuming 100 Sqm foot print you might need min 35. That's 2k supply only for the floor...

893bet

lownhard wrote: »

5.5k for mech and elec...I cannot see how that is possible. Using cheapest quotes I have I'm looking at about 35-40k for mech and elec in Dublin. Same size house

If you read the post in full you will see that is for first fix only. So just for the pulling of the cables and chasing of walls and the running of qualpex to radiators. None of the heavy lifting is done here yet so to speak. Prob another 20K to go here.

lownhard wrote: »

3.5k for insulation...how is this possible with meeting regs for Floors, walls, roof?

This doesnt include floor insulation PIR which was approx 2k ish and is included as part of the foundation cost.

galwaytt

893bet wrote: »

If you read the post in full you will see that is for first fix only. So just for the pulling of the cables and chasing of walls and the running of qualpex to radiators. None of the heavy lifting is done here yet so to speak. Prob another 20K to go here.



This doesnt include floor insulation PIR which was approx 2k ish and is included as part of the foundation cost.

But you're not building under 2014 BCMS are you iirc ?

893bet

galwaytt wrote: »

But you're not building under 2014 BCMS are you iirc ?

Absolutely not! Started two years ago!

Hoping to be in house in 14 months time! Which will be a 38 month build from first sod!

galwaytt

893bet wrote: »

Absolutely not! Started two years ago!

Hoping to be in house in 14 months time! Which will be a 38 month build from first sod!

...current build costs under BCMS etc are a long way from where you are, so for teresat's purposes it's not relevant - sorry

893bet

galwaytt wrote: »

...current build costs under BCMS etc are a long way from where you are, so for teresat's purposes it's not relevant - sorry

It is relevant as

1) There are still people building under old regs so it is useful for comparison

2) Self builds are still happening if the DC/AC allow them! There is one less than 1 mile from me currently in progress that started this year. In those cases the only extra cost is that of the DC/AC.
Rightly or wrongly they are still happening.

And if my post is not relevant then this thread is pointless as it just turns into a price per sq foot type thread which is even less relevant given the difficulty comparing on that basis.

Rossdarragh1

Hi. I'm after buying a house in Tipperary that's completed to roof level. No windows installed , plastering , electrics, heating etc.
Just roofed and slated. Bungalow 3,700 sq ft. Could anyone give me an idea of the cost per sq metre now that work has been completed to roof level. Middle spec. Not sure whether to go self build or builder. Probably self build as a lot of heavy construction has been done.

893bet

Rossdarragh1 wrote: »

Hi. I'm after buying a house in Tipperary that's completed to roof level. No windows installed , plastering , electrics, heating etc.
Just roofed and slated. Bungalow 3,700 sq ft. Could anyone give me an idea of the cost per sq metre now that work has been completed to roof level. Middle spec. Not sure whether to go self build or builder. Probably self build as a lot of heavy construction has been done.

180k to 300k

patsy sally

any ideas how much a 165 square metres 4 bed dormer in county wexford would cost to build,no garage and no payment on site as i own it

gaiscioch

BryanF wrote: »

http://www.bruceshaw.com/knowledgecentre/chapters/ireland#chapter_section_17

http://www.bruceshaw.com/knowledgecentre/chapters/ireland#chapter_section_25

https://www.scsi.ie/about_us/rebuildcalculator

In that rebuild calculator it's significantly dearer to rebuild in Dublin than, say, the "North-East". Why is that when the land price is presumably excluded from a "rebuild" quotation?

BryanF

gaiscioch wrote: »

In that rebuild calculator it's significantly dearer to rebuild in Dublin than, say, the "North-East". Why is that when the land price is presumably excluded from a "rebuild" quotation?

Where do you live? And how far do you commute to work? Can you park, dropping materials, have space to store material, get labour cheap in your area?

galwaytt

gaiscioch wrote: »

In that rebuild calculator it's significantly dearer to rebuild in Dublin than, say, the "North-East". Why is that when the land price is presumably excluded from a "rebuild" quotation?

..because cost-of-living in Dublin is different. Different for the workers you'd use, and the amount they need to live on. Ditto for companies located there. Delivery charges may differ too - it's a myriad of things.

bensboys

Any idea how much to build a 4 bed detached in a suburb on the south side of Cork city? We are thinking around 3000 Sq foot and the site is fully serviced.

lownhard

bensboys wrote: »

Any idea how much to build a 4 bed detached in a suburb on the south side of Cork city? We are thinking around 3000 Sq foot and the site is fully serviced.

Budget 150 a sq ft plus all the fees. Architect, engineer, QS, planning permission, development contributions, water/esb/sewage.

Might not have much change out of 500k.

Maybe build it smaller, if planning not already obtained. Building a four bed two story detached in an urban setting at the mo. 2200 sq ft. Loads of space. Put a good 40 degree pitch on the roof and paid a bit extra for attic trusses. Extra 500 sq ft on top of regular house up there when we want it. We planned the ope for access from the outset. Might work for your if no height restrictions in the area.

Also, BryanF, one of the moderators of the forum knows the lie of the land leeside. He might be better placed to advise.

gcomer123

Hi all - rough cost to build the following? Assume planning already in place:
- build on corner of existing house in side-garden
- 2 storey, 65sq m (Mews type house)

My current assumption is:
65 x €120 per sq m = 78k
+ 12k of other fees = 90k total

Would I be far off?

Thanks
G

gcomer123

... can't edit post for some reason, but house is in Dublin...

blue star

We built a 40 sqm sunroom for 5000. Family rates!! Just shows how going down self build really pays off. Wicklow area!