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Threatened this morning! :(
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The guy doesn't know whether or not your Dog was aggressive.
The parks I walk my Dog in have that before 11am and last hour before closing rule (I didn't even know until you said it - I thought I was always breaking the rules having her off the leash).
but I usually will walk my dog in less populated areas anyway.
I wouldn't want to be barked at by a loose Dog when I run through the park either and if my Dog did that to someone I would of course leash him and apologise.
Its a tough situation but I'd personally keep my Dog off the main path (if unleashed) if he was going to get starteld by runners or cyclists or other people who might be using it as pace.
Likewise. Ours is a terrier so fast-moving legs are irresistible! On-lead only unless we are alone. Better for everyone, herself included. It's jsut too much to think about with kids, joggers, cyclists, cars etc. Much prefer to walk her somewhere remote so she can have a bit of freedom and the non dog owners can have a bit of peace!
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Well I'll be walking as normal tomorrow but keeping them both near me with recall games. I'll be doing 6 half laps instead of 3 long ones to avoid that path - and there's a chance I might bump into him at the bridge but I'll keep my eyes peeled. I shouldn't meet him until the 5th or 6th lap but if he says a word to me i'm going to tell him to FO and that I'm calling the guards. I know his first name (he's friends with somebody in the park an apparently loves dogs
) and I have a fair idea where he lives from seeing him walking down if I was going into work early etc on the off chance something does happen and I need to call them. I never wanted to see my brothers as much as I did this morning after it happened! Or one of guys who are in some mornings with their dogs to walk around with us.
I ever even thought of poor Lucy when it happened. She's been going through a bit of a spooky phase the last while so I really hope this doesn't hasn't affected her.0 -
Potatoeman wrote: »Then he over reacted. Twice in one year is not a big deal. He should worry more about his own behaviour and learn how to have an adult conservation.
Indeed. Never mind the dog, it sounds to me like the hysterical jogger was more likely to bite!
... and in the end it was he who resorted to physical violence 
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OldNotWIse wrote: »Indeed. Never mind the dog, it sounds to me like the hysterical jogger was more likely to bite! ... and in the end it was he who resorted to physical violence
He isn't a jogger - just somebody who cuts through the park. I decided I was sticking to my normal route but put Bailey on lead when we got near that path. He was very skittish for the first 10-15 mins. It's not acceptable for him to run over and bark at anyone and there's no excuse.. but at the same time I've spent the last year looking out for that guy, keeping Bailey him on lead in certain places and not being able to relax for fear of bumping into him even though Bailey has strolled past him every time our paths have managed to cross without a second glance. If he's afraid of dogs then there's other paths he can take to avoid them like I've doing to avoid him for the last year.
I'm not going to let some stranger bully me!0 -
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Sadly, I'd say it's only 50:50 at best where as in a lot of other countries it'd be more like 95:5
Yes, it's tarring with the same brush, but until someone actually enforces the law here and most people start to take responsible dog ownership seriously, that's exactly how it looks!
What other countries?
I lived in the UK, and there is dog mess everywhere, even though they have poo bins, which we don't have a lot of here. There was also a jogger in the local park in London that I walked in, that used to carry an iron bar with him to use against the dogs that chased him every day - not my dogs. In another London park, my dog who was under control was attacked by an akita and pinned against park railings, I and a couple of other people had to use bags, sticks and whatever else we could grab to get him off her, as her owner stood by not knowing what to do, he was an elderly man and completely unable to control him. My dog when I was a teenager was attacked on a path in a rural village by an off lead dog, I could go on
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Parts of the UK are getting worse, IMO. Especially upscale developments with part-townies who just get a pup or two and anthropomorphise them to death.What other countries?
I lived in the UK, and there is dog mess everywhere, even though they have poo bins, which we don't have a lot of here. There was also a jogger in the local park in London that I walked in, that used to carry an iron bar with him to use against the dogs that chased him every day - not my dogs. In another London park, my dog who was under control was attacked by an akita and pinned against park railings, I and a couple of other people had to use bags, sticks and whatever else we could grab to get him off her, as her owner stood by not knowing what to do, he was an elderly man and completely unable to control him. My dog when I was a teenager was attacked on a path in a rural village by an off lead dog, I could go on
Our Patterdale rescue has earned himself a bit of a 'bad rep' around the development we live on, as an aggressive dog (which he is, no point putting blinkers on...but read on), and I'm (sadly) increasingly regularly in verbal fist-fights with people who do not have the first clue about dog handling and management.
He's never off lead (because we know he can be aggressive) and we always ask owners of unleashed dogs (which are approaching him) to recall their dogs before they get too close. The lead is always retracted or wound up to shortest extent (tight, short of actually lifting dog up) as we cross other people/dogs/joggers/kids/etc. He has never attacked/we have never let him attack any other dog.
And for all that, he has been attacked 5 times in the past 4 years, each time without fail by unleashed dogs (last time by 2 staffies no less) not fully under their owner's control. I'm talking proper fights, with blood spilled (theirs and/or ours), bit of ear gone, etc. and that's what I'm putting the worst of his aggressive character down to (he's proven himself absolutely fine with certain dogs, never fine with others, on/off with still others...but, and unsurprisingly, he always seems to be getting better and better the longer has elapsed since a last fight). These attacks just turn him into a "shoot first, ask later" dog, which then takes ages to 'rub out'.
So the last guy who approached me out of the blue and asked told me to get our dog muzzled, was politely told 'no' and explained that we would not impede our dog's ability to defend himself when attacked, particularly as he was always under full control...then not so politely told to either f*** o** or bring it, after rudely interrupting me and trying to 'outvoice' me. He was, and still is, a minority thankfully - but it seems clear to me that the problem is just amplifying atm, as there seems to be (based on the past 4 years of daily observations here and there and everywhere) ever less people with their dogs leashed up when out and about in semi-rural environments, and expecting all dogs regardless of breed and age and to be these "pink fluffy friendly carebears" with each other all the time.0 -
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