Seanator Catherine Noone on the Tubridy show this morning.

Ash.J.Williams

Here is a fine example of a politician making a fool of herself.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/leftfield/senator-backtracks-on-call-to-ban-conor-mcgregors-dublin-title-fight-after-fan-outcry-30906827.html

Going to the media to ban something, and then going on radio to defend yourself without even knowing what it is!!


(Catherine has held her hand up after the interview to admit she was wrong, and will avail of all the offers of training and education she has been offered)

Tony EH

Fine Gael...

Nuff said.


:rolleyes:

The Bould Rabbit

I'm not into banning things but she's correct in calling it a "vile so-called sport".

Its a load of shíte.

The Strawman Argument

Hardly unique to Ireland, people just see the cage and jump to conclusions based on nothing remotely factual. Sure it's still banned in New York, isn't it?

Menas

Some of these plebs should be compelled to apply for a licence before they speak.
Reminds me of the 'frapping' debate in the dail.

Ash.J.Williams

The Strawman Argument wrote: »

Hardly unique to Ireland, people just see the cage and jump to conclusions based on nothing remotely factual. Sure it's still banned in New York, isn't it?

It's not banned as far as i know, just unlicensed, which i believe is happening this year.

The Bould Rabbit

Trigger Happy wrote: »

Some of these plebs should be compelled to apply for a licence before they speak.
Reminds me of the 'frapping' debate in the dail.

Seanad.

Delirium

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Here is a fine example of a politician making a fool of herself.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/leftfield/senator-backtracks-on-call-to-ban-conor-mcgregors-dublin-title-fight-after-fan-outcry-30906827.html

Going to the media to ban something, and then going on radio to defend yourself without even knowing what it is!!


(Catherine has held her hand up after the interview to admit she was wrong, and will avail of all the offers of training and education she has been offered)

Not the first time she's made silly suggestions....

A Fine Gael senator wants to regulate ice-cream van chimes, but says ‘it’s about a bigger issue’

SENATOR CATHERINE NOONE says that her proposal to regulate the chimes on ice-cream vans is “about a bigger issue”.


Noone has made headlines recently by proposing a ban on Frappucinos and a lifting of rules that stop children running in the school yard.


Now, she wants to limit the amount of times an ice-cream vendor can play their jingle. Noone says that though the proposals may seem frivolous, they are part of a wider conversation on childhood obesity.

chrysagon

Best be silent and be thought the fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt Ms Noone

Ash.J.Williams

yeah and i got the impression from the interview she was embarrassed that all she's managed to achieve in her life was to call for a ban on icecream, caramel frappacinos and UFC.

smash

I'd find boxing interesting, even kickboxing sometimes. But the 'ground and pound' stuff in MMA just makes it look like a legitimised street fight. Watching 2 lads kicking lumps out of each other like this, in a cage, doesn't really appeal to me.

Ash.J.Williams

smash wrote: »

I'd find boxing interesting, even kickboxing sometimes. But the 'ground and pound' stuff in MMA just makes it look like a legitimised street fight. Watching 2 lads kicking lumps out of each other like this, in a cage, doesn't really appeal to me.

i'm a total novice....the ground stuff is only one aspect of it. To me it's a case of if you reach the top of your martial art discipline why not step in the octagon and see how you rate against other disciplines

Xios

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Here is a fine example of a politician making a fool of herself.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/leftfield/senator-backtracks-on-call-to-ban-conor-mcgregors-dublin-title-fight-after-fan-outcry-30906827.html

Going to the media to ban something, and then going on radio to defend yourself without even knowing what it is!!


(Catherine has held her hand up after the interview to admit she was wrong, and will avail of all the offers of training and education she has been offered)

That website hurt my eyes... in many ways.

Muahahaha

smash wrote: »

I'd find boxing interesting, even kickboxing sometimes. But the 'ground and pound' stuff in MMA just makes it look like a legitimised street fight. Watching 2 lads kicking lumps out of each other like this, in a cage, doesn't really appeal to me.

anytime you see a fighter get the better of the other on the ground the fight is normally over within 10 seconds

smash

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

To me it's a case of if you reach the top of your martial art discipline why not step in the octagon and see how you rate against other disciplines

But that's not what it is. It's not people of a single discipline trading blows to see which discipline is better etc etc. It's just people brawling. If you want to watch various martial art disciplines sparring then you go to a martial art tournament.

Ash.J.Williams

smash wrote: »

But that's not what it is. It's not people of a single discipline trading blows to see which discipline is better etc etc. It's just people brawling. If you want to watch various martial art disciplines sparring then you go to a martial art tournament.

that's not correct

Mr. CooL ICE

smash wrote: »

But that's not what it is. It's not people of a single discipline trading blows to see which discipline is better etc etc. It's just people brawling. If you want to watch various martial art disciplines sparring then you go to a martial art tournament.

Hi Catherine

yipeeeee

smash wrote: »

I'd find boxing interesting, even kickboxing sometimes. But the 'ground and pound' stuff in MMA just makes it look like a legitimised street fight. Watching 2 lads kicking lumps out of each other like this, in a cage, doesn't really appeal to me.

The cage is to stop the fighters falling out and injuring themselves.

It's purely for safety.

AboutaWeekAgo

What a bizarrely apt second name she has.

RayCon

SW wrote: »

Not the first time she's made silly suggestions....

A Fine Gael senator wants to regulate ice-cream van chimes, but says ‘it’s about a bigger issue’

Fcukin hell ... that's even more idiotic.

uch

She's a feckin Plank

TheDoc

She is on record , three times in, in the Senate, publicly congratulating Katie Taylor on her victories, twice referring to her as a hero.

That Senator is a sham and utter gob****e, and I whole heartedly regret voting to keep that talking shop in place. If it ever comes around again will vote to abolish it at the drop of a hat.

Wasn't even elected by the people if I'm not mistaken, so has really no mandate to be doing any of this. Mad little power trip.

Grayson

smash wrote: »

I'd find boxing interesting, even kickboxing sometimes. But the 'ground and pound' stuff in MMA just makes it look like a legitimised street fight. Watching 2 lads kicking lumps out of each other like this, in a cage, doesn't really appeal to me.

To be fair to her she said it was "ultra violent" and "gruesome injuries are all-too frequent"

She's not actually incorrect in that assessment

far more accurate than Fidelma and her "raped on facebook" claims

Riskymove

TheDoc wrote: »

She is on record , three times in, in the Senate, publicly congratulating Katie Taylor on her victories, twice referring to her as a hero.

while I agree that this is a publicity stunt I do think there is a real difference between amateur boxing and the likes of UFC

vicwatson

What an idiot.

mikom

One of our "betters"....... and a lovely girl, Ted.
Look at her lovely hair.

I await her discovery of GTA 3, then Vice city..........

Rough Sleeper

The Bould Rabbit wrote: »

Seanad.

You're going to have to elaborate on this one. Why is it "vile?" Is this your opinion of all combat sports, or do you view it differently to more established disciplines? And why is it a "so-called" sport? An athletic contest with well-defined rules testing the skill of two opponents sounds very much like a sport to me.

Aongus Von Bismarck

Post anything that expresses concern about the safety and sportsmanship of UFC/MMA and it tends to bring out the Online Outrage Crew in large numbers.

Many of them appear to be the sort that aren't exactly specimens of health and hand-eye coordination themselves. Picture lots of belly, neckbeard and heavy metal t-shirts.

ScumLord

smash wrote: »

I'd find boxing interesting, even kickboxing sometimes. But the 'ground and pound' stuff in MMA just makes it look like a legitimised street fight. Watching 2 lads kicking lumps out of each other like this, in a cage, doesn't really appeal to me.

Ground and pound isn't as common as it used to be because the fighters have gotten good at countering it. Most ground work is about jujitsu, limb locks. You can't actually generate much force in a punch when you're on the ground. The ground work is very much a chess match and has as much skill involved, if not more than the standing fighting.

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

i'm a total novice....the ground stuff is only one aspect of it. To me it's a case of if you reach the top of your martial art discipline why not step in the octagon and see how you rate against other disciplines

It's not one discipline vs another anymore. You have to be great at everything and know when to use one style over another. The boxing in MMA has to change to take into account the fact you can get kicked, the kicking has to take into account that you can be taken down. So just being good at one discipline isn't going to do a fighter any good. Even the disciplines have to change and adapt to the point they're not much like the discipline they started out as.

mikom

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

Many of them appear to be the sort that aren't exactly specimens of health and hand-eye coordination themselves. Picture lots of belly, neckbeard and heavy metal t-shirts.

http://cdn2.independent.ie/irish-news/article30551306.ece/67bb1/ALTERNATES/h342/2014-09-01_iri_3191014_I2.JPG

mloc123

She was the same senator that wanted the ban on ice cream vans too?

Karl Stein

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

Online Outrage Crew

Picture lots of belly, neckbeard and heavy metal t-shirts.

How in the name of muppetry would you know what an 'online outrage crew' look like?

I'd like to nominate this as SPOTM (stupid post of the month).

Galwayguy35

What is it about FG, we had to listen to one fool a few days ago acting like the nations mammy saying we will be all much healthier now having to buy expensive booze in the pub and now this senator is bladdering on about something she later admitted she knew nothing about.

We should have abolished that useless Seanad when we had the chance.

Ash.J.Williams

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

Post anything that expresses concern about the safety and sportsmanship of UFC/MMA and it tends to bring out the Online Outrage Crew in large numbers.

Many of them appear to be the sort that aren't exactly specimens of health and hand-eye coordination themselves. Picture lots of belly, neckbeard and heavy metal t-shirts.

same as all sports?

Cienciano

Fair play to her. Yes she made a mistake calling for it to be banned, she wasn't afraid to admit she made a mistake and changed her mind. So many irish politicians are very stubborn and won't admit they're wrong or made a mistake/quick decision without thinking throughly and follow through on their actions to somehow save face. Some just never speak about the issue again and pretend it never happened. (Looking at you Fedelma Healy Eames).

RDM_83 again

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

Post anything that expresses concern about the safety and sportsmanship of UFC/MMA and it tends to bring out the Online Outrage Crew in large numbers.

It might look nasty but I don't think the deep damage is as bad as a boxing match, they might end up with more cuts and broken bones (not sure about the second one) but there isn't the same amount of shaking up of the brain which causes the real nasty problems.

Sportsmanship I'm not sure about, don't follow it seriously myself but anything thats ran just by one company I can see having issues about promoting certain people and so on to boost revenue.

wandatowell

In fairness everybody has an opinion on something they know nothing about, only for the fact her's was broadcast nobody would care what she thinks.

Though I would have hoped that a politician would at least have conducted research before commentating.


Thats what annoys more tbh

The Bould Rabbit

Rough Sleeper wrote: »

You're going to have to elaborate on this one.

No prob. Its the upper chamber in the Houses of the Oireachtas.

Rough Sleeper wrote: »

Why is it "vile?" Is this your opinion of all combat sports, or do you view it differently to more established disciplines? And why is it a "so-called" sport?

I was quoting Senator Noone. Ask her.

I think its all a load of crap.

Rough Sleeper wrote: »

An athletic contest with well-defined rules testing the skill of two opponents sounds very much like a sport to me.

Good.

c_man

A Senator complaining about something which she was completely ignorant of? Colour me shocked.

At least she's had the decency to acknowledge her mistake. I reckon we won't see such an outburst from any of the esteemed members of the upper house again. I bet the rest of them were mortified.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to rape someone on Facebook.

csallmighty

The fact that she got onto the radio to condemn something she admitted she knew nothing about is worrying.

Being a senator in the seanad makes it even more worrying. She has influence. If that's her stance on a sport I'm worried about her stance on more important issues.

mikom

wandatowell wrote: »

In fairness everybody has an opinion on something they know nothing about, only for the fact her's was broadcast nobody would care what she thinks.

Though I would have hoped that a politician would at least have conducted research before commentating.


Thats what annoys more tbh

csallmighty wrote: »

The fact that she got onto the radio to condemn something she admitted she knew nothing about is worrying.

Being a senator in the seanad makes it even more worrying. She has influence. If that's her stance on a sport I'm worried about her stance on more important issues.

She is also a trained solicitor and the Fine Gael Seanad spokesperson on Arts and Culture.
Double DOH!!!

Nodin

mikom wrote: »

She is also a trained solicitor.
Double DOH!!!

*shudder

Karl Stein

Cienciano wrote: »

Fair play to her. Yes she made a mistake calling for it to be banned, she wasn't afraid to admit she made a mistake and changed her mind.

She only changed her mind because, rather than gleefully riding a wave of support, she was ridiculed for being a twat.

I'm sure she would have been delighted if she'd have mobilised the Joe Duffy Brigade.

csallmighty

mikom wrote: »

She is also a trained solicitor and the Fine Gael Seanad spokesperson on Arts and Culture.
Double DOH!!!

So she gets paid a lot of money to be a dafty

conorh91

For many years, Fine Gael's electoral failures allowed the party a valuable lack of media scrutiny. It was a party so well-hidden in the shadows, that any of the media attention it received was absorbed by its high-profile leader, a public intellectual so well-respected they called him 'Garret the Good', and by a subsequent leader-Taoiseach, the dim but well-meaning large farmer, John Bruton.

These men therefore personified Fine Gael in the public mind, conveying an image of a party intending to serve the well-cultivated, and cultivators of large farms.

When, in 2011, Fine Gael won its first election in almost 30 years, it landed on its arse in the public spotlight, and those perceptions of the party vanished like fart in a cattle-mart.

Gone were the illusions of an Irish Tory party, as we were confronted with a party that is just as blundering and populist as Fianna Fail, with just as many semi-literate TDs, ruddy-faced from toiling at the parish pump.

Calling opposition TDs c*nts; comparing Irish Water protestors to ISIS; people getting raped on Facebook; appointing petrol-station owners to the board of the national modern-art gallery, whilst simultaneously doing its best to alienate genuinely talented, intelligent men like Peter Matthews and George Lee.

Catherine Noone's latest facepalm seems relatively minor by comparison, but we might as well add her to the list.

I was always skeptical about a Fine Gael and Fianna Fail amalgamation. This Government's term has convinced me that no two parties could be more compatible nor more alike in every way.

Letree

csallmighty wrote: »

The fact that she got onto the radio to condemn something she admitted she knew nothing about is worrying.

Being a senator in the seanad makes it even more worrying. She has influence. If that's her stance on a sport I'm worried about her stance on more important issues.

That's where is stand on it too. I'm shocked at her unprofessionalism. To go to the bother of writing a letter to the minister calling for a ban on something she hasn't actually researched is bad. What else is she making calls on or voting on without any knowledge of the subject.

WoollyRedHat

SW wrote: »

Not the first time she's made silly suggestions....

A Fine Gael senator wants to regulate ice-cream van chimes, but says ‘it’s about a bigger issue’

Children aren't allowed to run in school yards anymore?! Scandalous... British bulldog ahoy!

Super-Rush

Didn't she say that she'd never actually watched UFC and was going on info from one of her bffs?

Spa.

Dyr

yipeeeee wrote: »

The cage is to stop the fighters falling out and injuring themselves.

It's purely for safety.

Interestingly enough the cage didn't come about for safety, back around ufc1 they thought having fights in a cage would make it more seem more extreme, along with the whole "two men enter- one man leaves" schtick.

Thye actually had plans to surround the cage with a moat filled with sharks or something at one stage.

Simpler times

yipeeeee

Bambi wrote: »

Interestingly enough the cage didn't come about for safety, back around ufc1 they thought having fights in a cage would make it more seem more extreme, along with the whole "two men enter- one man leaves" schtick.

Thye actually had plans to surround the cage with a moat filled with sharks or something at one stage.

Simpler times

Not sure if serious.

El Guapo!

yipeeeee wrote: »

Not sure if serious.

It was crocodiles actually. Seriously.
That was a long time ago though. MMA was a totally different animal back then. And that was really only one guys idea and was never gonna happen.