Claire Byrne Live (RTE1)

AndrewJRenko

FrancieBrady wrote: »

There is nothing in the mandate for current affairs programming that says a contributor has to have 'expertise' or 'experience' to give an opinion on social issues or the implications of a law. Which is, if you look at the outline of what the programme set out to do, what they were doing.
You are a not just coming across as a proponent of censorship, you actually are proposing it. Well done. All you had to do was argue his opinion with the superior fact, if you had it.

So six or seven people all with experience or expertise, and then the comedy writer from London. You'd be happy presumably to see them interview a poet on the cervical screening crisis along with all the doctors? Or an electrician for their views on the Supreme Court case on gender balance, along with the. barristers and politicians?

AndrewJRenko

FrancieBrady wrote: »

And if somebody says 'You are a man, you always are and always will be, no matter what you do', fireworks of indignation go off.

Fair play. You have reached hypocrisy central Andrew.

Nice try on diverting attention from the media selection issue.

FrancieBrady

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

So six or seven people all with experience or expertise, and then the comedy writer from London. You'd be happy presumably to see them interview a poet on the cervical screening crisis along with all the doctors? Or an electrician for their views on the Supreme Court case on gender balance, along with the. barristers and politicians?

Yes, if the poet or electrician had something cogent to say. Linehan's argument would have made sense to an awful lot of people. You are totally blinkered if you think otherwise and lacking in exposure to contrary opinion.

AndrewJRenko

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes, if the poet or electrician had something cogent to say. Linehan's argument would have made sense to an awful lot of people. You are totally blinkered if you think otherwise and lacking in exposure to contrary opinion.

And why pick Linehan out of the all the hundreds of thousands of people who also have opinions? Why pick Linehan over an actual expert who could use that time usefully? Or someone who could speak with actual direct experience? Why would you bump someone with real experience for the comedy writer from London?

The issue is nothing to do with the quality or otherwise of his argument. The issue is why pick a comedy writer from London to speak on the most sensitive issue.

FrancieBrady

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

And why pick Linehan out of the all the hundreds of thousands of people who also have opinions? Why pick Linehan over an actual expert who could use that time usefully? Or someone who could speak with actual direct experience? Why would you bump someone with real experience for the comedy writer from London?

The issue is nothing to do with the quality or otherwise of his argument. The issue is why pick a comedy writer from London to speak on the most sensitive issue.

Because somebody thought he had an opinion worth airing. A contrary opinion, one that is and will be fairly common if law change goes ahead. Absolutely standard (and responsible, given their remit as national broadcaster) behaviour for current affairs programming.

Atlantic Dawn

Nearly 2 weeks after originally broadcast the discussion still goes on, ffs start a new thread.

FrancieBrady

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Nearly 2 weeks after originally broadcast the discussion still goes on, ffs start a new thread.

Good idea. I'm done actually. In my defence I will say I abhor censorship in all it's forms.

boardise

Acosta wrote: »

Or maybe all drivers.

Many,probably most, younger people,say under 25, don't read newspapers or watch news on tv -this applies even to college students ( who hardly read books let alone newspapers !)
The chances of their being influenced by sobering messages about road deaths or swayed by images of tangled wrecks are close to zero.

AndrewJRenko

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Because somebody thought he had an opinion worth airing. A contrary opinion, one that is and will be fairly common if law change goes ahead. Absolutely standard (and responsible, given their remit as national broadcaster) behaviour for current affairs programming.

Contrary to what? There were a range of professional opinions from the experts on the programme, and a range of personal experiences too. Both pro and con views were well covered already with the expert and experienced speakers.

As you say yourself, there's nothing particularly unusual in his views. You'd get the same guff in any pub in the city. So why choose a comedy writer from London?

FrancieBrady

boardise wrote: »

Many,probably most, younger people,say under 25, don't read newspapers or watch news on tv -this applies even to college students ( who hardly read books let alone newspapers !)
The chances of their being influenced by sobering messages about road deaths or swayed by images of tangled wrecks are close to zero.

Not sure where the world is headed to be honest. My 18 yr and 15yr old just don't watch telly, don't read newspapers and their peers, to a boy and a girl don't either. But they have opinions and have awareness, they don't get it from trad sources. I'd like to see what the world is in 50 years, may very well be better.

AndrewJRenko

boardise wrote: »

Many,probably most, younger people,say under 25, don't read newspapers or watch news on tv -this applies even to college students ( who hardly read books let alone newspapers !)
The chances of their being influenced by sobering messages about road deaths or swayed by images of tangled wrecks are close to zero.

They are still exposed to loads of advertising - Snapchat, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter are all full of ads and are frequently used by the RSA and others.

Atlantic Dawn

Jeffrey Donaldson, always somewhat of a plank.

FrancieBrady

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Jeffrey Donaldson, always somewhat of a plank.

She let him talk airy fairy vague nonsense and off the hook on one main question.

elperello

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Jeffrey Donaldson, always somewhat of a plank.

But he says he respects us !
All the same CB asking him does he trust May was a bit pointless.

Atlantic Dawn

FrancieBrady wrote: »

She let him talk airy fairy vague nonsense and off the hook on one main question.

And again like Farage last week no engagement with the studio guest.

Berserker

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Jeffrey Donaldson, always somewhat of a plank.

Stroll in the park for Jeffrey. Claire Byrne is completely out of her depth dealing with seasoned politicians like Jeffrey or Farage. It was like watching a three year old playing football against his Dad. The trust question was like a gift from God for him. Bet he was waiting for a stinker of a last question from her.

Atlantic Dawn

elperello wrote: »

But he says he respects us !
All the same CB asking him does he trust May was a bit pointless.

The political respresentation from the loyalist paramilitaries like the late David Ervine were far more realistic in their negotiations.

Pinch Flat

That leave.eu fella wouldn’t look out of place in a 19th century black and white photo

Berserker

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

The political respresentation from the loyalist paramilitaries like the late David Ervine were far more realistic in their negotiations.

I loved Ervine. Didn't agree with the para stance but he was a top class politician. Would be very interesting to see how he would approach this.

Atlantic Dawn

Brexit documentary on Channel 4 recently, well worth a watch if you get a chance.

Atlantic Dawn

Smugglers don't know what to be doing yet, will take a while when the smoke settles to know what to smuggle north or south.

Storm 10

She is a terrible interviewer constantly has to interrupt and cut across the person she is talking to to make it look like she is in charge, cringeworthy carry on she is the same on the radio I have learnt nothing tonight

Atlantic Dawn

Farmers up north who voted to leave are architects of failure, pure clowns.

jogdish

Is it just me or is Claire getting worse, I used to remember thinking she was good when she was 'new' on the RTE scene radio and TV.
This show most weeks is almost pointless.

Atlantic Dawn

Lol, down south and calls Derry Londonderry.

Berserker

jogdish wrote: »

Is it just me or is Claire getting worse, I used to remember thinking she was good when she was 'new' on the RTE scene radio and TV. This show most weeks is almost pointless.

That's the RTE way of interviewing people.

EPAndlee

Why can't she just let people ask their question

AndrewJRenko

Is she interviewing any Swiss comedy writers for their opinions on Brexit?

Marengo

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Lol, down south and calls Derry Londonderry.

Young wan with no confidence trying not to offend anyone

Berserker

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Is she interviewing any Swiss comedy writers for their opinions on Brexit?

What are you on about?