Claire Byrne Live (RTE1)

delaad

Pints? wrote: »

The priest insisted is what I've heard

It was put at the time that the priest persuaded Mrs Coll to agree to it.

And Jacqueline Connolly said last night that they only agreed to it because of the "stupor" the events had left them in.

walshb

What a truly evil man to do what he did....

realdanbreen

Another 'pillar of the community' exposed. In the last week alone I've read of Cardinals, teachers and surgeons being shown up not as pillars of anything but pure scum.

BettePorter

Surely as soon as any of the parents in his class heard about the masterbation /porn allegation they would go to the school and demand /and have right to know what the circumstances were ? This creep was in charge of their kids. What kind of a school was it ? Big /small ? Is it a tiny community that still somehow respect him ? It's odd we've never heard anyone speak out to support the demand for answers with clodaghs family .

walshb

BettePorter wrote: »

I'm glad the sister called out this bull**** depression excuse. It's like the adult adhd. You can't just be a little bollix of a child or a cX€t of an adult. You have to have a get out of jail card.

Legitimate ppl with adhd or actual depression must despair at how easily it's tossed about .

Couldn't agree more. It's gone from nobody wanting to talk about suffering with depression to every tom, dick and harry having it. It's doing nothing but a disservice to those genuinely suffering. I don't buy it at all...

Muahahaha

That was a tough watch last night, really heartbreaking stuff.

Does anyone know what information it is the family seek from the school? Is the porn and masturbation thing not the entire story to why he did what he did?

Also the counsellor he was attending- the family said that Alan said in his note that the counsellor "knows everything". Is the counsellor still bounb by client confidentially even after his death? When illegal actions happen are they still bound to say nothing?

freshpopcorn

BettePorter wrote: »

Surely as soon as any of the parents in his class heard about the masterbation /porn allegation they would go to the school and demand /and have right to know what the circumstances were ? This creep was in charge of their kids. What kind of a school was it ? Big /small ? Is it a tiny community that still somehow respect him ? It's odd we've never heard anyone speak out to support the demand for answers with clodaghs family .

Number in the school is about 150.
Regarding the incident in the school we don't know what happend or if the incident was even reported. There's also a lot of data protection around matters.
The school could have had people in several times, letters and even letters to the department of education for all we know regarding the matter.
Regarding why people haven't spoken out to the media. I don't know. I for one I'm a quite person and wouldn't be one to go to the media. Her family were just doing it as a last resort.

airy fairy

Muahahaha wrote: »

That was a tough watch last night, really heartbreaking stuff.

Does anyone know what information it is the family seek from the school? Is the porn and masturbation thing not the entire story to why he did what he did?

Also the counsellor he was attending- the family said that Alan said in his note that the counsellor "knows everything". Is the counsellor still bounb by client confidentially even after his death? When illegal actions happen are they still bound to say nothing?

From what I can gather, the family want to know what he was referring to when he said it was all going to come out. No one knows what the work situation was going to be on his return the following day, who or why he was having disagreements with in work, who caught him, what was done, why did he ring his union...
There's a dark veil over this, it's like the typical old Irish country village craic all over again, hiding secrets, protecting people, thought we were done with sort of stuff.

Muahahaha

Muahahaha wrote: »

Does anyone know what information it is the family seek from the school? Is the porn and masturbation thing not the entire story to why he did what he did?

I think it probably is the whole story. I doubt if there is much more to it that has yet to be disclosed. But his fear of the inevitable fallout, which was pending when the new term began, brought him to the brink.
In a small rural community it would have been a big scandal, with the resulting shame and possibly suspension from his job. I'm sure a lot of suicides are the result of people unable to face those kinds of consequences.
But to bring his whole family with him in such an act of brutality??? Unforgivable.

Well we have heard the INTO are going to be of zero help to the family or An Gárda Siochána.

Radio5

The position of the counsellor is interesting and I'd like to hear from someone in that profession as to whether client confidentiality survives after the client is dead and /or has committed a serious crime such as murder. Clearly some of the counsellor's notes were made available to the medical expert prior to the inquest but were all of them provided I wonder.

The Department of Education has strict guidelines and protocols on what happens if there is a complaint against a teacher or other member of a school staff i.e secretary, caretaker etc. If, as seems to have been the case here, there was an incident involving a school laptop being used inappropriately, there should be a record of that incident in the school files along with details of what actions were taken as a result of the incident. It is not fair that the family got only half a story and have to speculate about the rest. if I were a parent at that school, I would now be asking questions on that point.

The Succession Act was mentioned on the programme but that point wasn't explored. I presume the issue may be that, as he died last, all the family property/money etc went in accordance with his Will (if he had one) or by intestacy to his family (even though he was the wrongdoer here). That is just what I could make of it, maybe that wasn't the issue at all.

airy fairy

Succession act needs changing.
How Clodagh's family have kept their voices restrained is admirable. Not sure I could do the same.
https://www.thesun.ie/news/3802367/clodagh-hawe-family-legal-letter-weeks-after-funeral/

Laois_Man

Bring back Pat Kenny

Claire really isn't up to this!

The Andrew Bridgen interview was another absolute shambles from her point of view!

SafeSurfer

Laois_Man wrote: »

Bring back Pat Kenny

Claire really isn't up to this!

The Andrew Bridgen interview was another absolute shambles from her point of view!

I couldn’t agree more. It was embarrassing. No facts, no figures, no difficult questions just emotion. Pathetic.

rodders999

Jesus she’s absolutely brutal, that interview was an absolute botch fest. I turned over from Partridge to this and it’s impossible to tell the difference.

Storm 10

She keeps interrupting people, the way she is going on tonight you would swear that Brexit just happened bloody drama queen

Berserker

Laois_Man wrote: »

Bring back Pat Kenny

Claire really isn't up to this!

The Andrew Bridgen interview was another absolute shambles from her point of view!

Beyond pathetic, isn't she. Is this the best that RTE can come up with? Typical emotional BS with absolutely no substance behind it.

Laois_Man

Berserker wrote: »

Beyond pathetic, isn't she. Is this the best that RTE can come up with? Typical emotional BS with absolutely no substance behind it.

The emotional bull**** isn't what pissed me off most - she literally let Bridgen away with making the ridiculous claim that there was never a hard border in Ireland - she was totally stumped by it!

briany

That northern woman earlier had a silly argument to call the EU undemocratic in that you could apply it to any parliamentary democracy including (shock horror) that of the UK. So, the UK has MEPs and the EP votes against their concerns on certain motions, so the EU is undemocratic. OK, but how is that different from a UK MP from a part of Yorkshire having their concerns voted against by the rest of the house. Do people in Yorkshire suddenly say the UK is undemocratic?

Laois_Man

briany wrote: »

That northern woman earlier had a silly argument to call the EU undemocratic in that you could apply it to any parliamentary democracy including (shock horror) that of the UK. So, the UK has MEPs and the EP votes against their concerns on certain motions, so the EU is undemocratic. OK, but how is that different from a UK MP from a part of Yorkshire having their concerns voted against by the rest of the house. Do people in Yorkshire suddenly say the UK is undemocratic?

And Byrne was stumped by that one too!

Berserker

Laois_Man wrote: »

And Byrne was stumped by that one too!

Laois_Man wrote: »

The emotional bull**** isn't what pissed me off most - she literally let Bridgen away with making the ridiculous claim that there was never a hard border in Ireland - she was totally stumped by it!

She appears to have no real knowledge of or passion for the topic in hand. PK, for example, has a genuine passion for and interest in politics, so he knows his stuff and he would not be stumped.

elperello

When I was watching that "Crocodile Dundee" segment it came to me like a vision.
Claire Byrne presenting The Late Late Show.

Andrew00

A fu*king cabbage

sligojoek

Another "Human interest" misery slot on RTE. I remember this show used to be all about current affairs and political debate.

Claire is stunning , but she’s going way too blonde lately , no shine , hair looks flat , it used to be much more natural looking .
That’s my only criticism, sorry Claire, otherwise I’m a fan

Jesus some country we live in when you can kill a partner for profit

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/murder-victims-brother-says-its-unbelievable-killers-can-still-benefit-from-their-crimes-37956000.html

The pension would have been worth a million over her lifetime :mad:

sully123

Tonight's show is shameless sensationalism.

Atlantic Dawn

One part of me wants a no deal so we can see the EU stab us in the back with a hard border.

c.p.w.g.w

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

One part of me wants a no deal so we can see the EU stab us in the back with a hard border.

Do you genuinely believe that? If the UK doesn't uphold the GFA they will be in breach of international law

Atlantic Dawn

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Do you genuinely believe that? If the UK doesn't uphold the GFA they will be in breach of international law

You can't have no border with no trade deal in place, the domestic market in Ireland would be destroyed with imports.