Marriage Equality Referendum

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Went out for an early morning jog before work today & couldn't resist picking up a souvenir!



Have to say I'm surprised how emotional I've found it all, anytime I hear people interviewed saying how it's going to enhance their lives, find myself having to give the old eyes a wipe

Daith

That was an exhausting couple of weeks but glad I put my all into it

Aard

Daith wrote: »

That was an exhausting couple of weeks but glad I put my all into it

Everyone who campaigned deserves huge credit. Some people were out every day, and organised canvassing such that nowhere was canvassed twice. These guys and gals can't get enough praise!

Mickeroo

Does anyone know where I can get detailed results on the referendum? Smaller than the electorate areas I mean. Someone showed me a picture of my local area by polling station and it was quite depressing (though not really surprising), 75% no at one of them was the worst. I just want to look it up myself to see if it's actually true as I'm not sure where they got such detailed stats from.

Daith

Mickeroo wrote: »

Does anyone know where I can get detailed results on the referendum? Smaller than the electorate areas I mean. Someone showed me a picture of my local area by polling station and it was quite depressing (though not really surprising), 75% no at one of them was the worst. I just want to look it up myself to see if it's actually true as I'm not sure where they got such detailed stats from.

They're normally from tallies which may be wrong. Any particular area?

seamus

Mickeroo wrote: »

Does anyone know where I can get detailed results on the referendum? Smaller than the electorate areas I mean. Someone showed me a picture of my local area by polling station and it was quite depressing (though not really surprising), 75% no at one of them was the worst. I just want to look it up myself to see if it's actually true as I'm not sure where they got such detailed stats from.

Afaik, they don't maintain per-station counts, only constituency counts.

Tallymen do counts by station, but primarily because they tally based on the boxes. I'm not sure if they record that data anywhere though, their primary function is to provide the media and politicians with early data. Their sheets are probably shredded at the end of the day.

Daith

seamus wrote: »

Afaik, they don't maintain per-station counts, only constituency counts.

Tallymen do counts by station, but primarily because they tally based on the boxes. I'm not sure if they record that data anywhere though, their primary function is to provide the media and politicians with early data. Their sheets are probably shredded at the end of the day.

Some of the tally people were putting stuff on spreadsheets. I know I was letting other people know for my area.

Mickeroo

Daith wrote: »

They're normally from tallies which may be wrong. Any particular area?

seamus wrote: »

Afaik, they don't maintain per-station counts, only constituency counts.

Tallymen do counts by station, but primarily because they tally based on the boxes. I'm not sure if they record that data anywhere though, their primary function is to provide the media and politicians with early data. Their sheets are probably shredded at the end of the day.

That could be it then, it's a small rural area so possible the tallies were passed around a bit. Achill Island was the area, this is the pic I was shown:

L1011

Arranmore voted yes - bridges are bad for you, clearly :pac;

Annasopra

seamus wrote: »

Afaik, they don't maintain per-station counts, only constituency counts.

Tallymen do counts by station, but primarily because they tally based on the boxes. I'm not sure if they record that data anywhere though, their primary function is to provide the media and politicians with early data. Their sheets are probably shredded at the end of the day.

A lot of them keep the data electronically

SpaceTime

There's no official record of individual boxes. It would potentially compromise the secrecy of the ballot tbh.

I wouldn't dwell on it too much tbh. It's been an amazing few weeks. I honestly think a good % of the no votes are fairly soft. This referendum has been quite an education for a lot of people.

One of my elderly relatives was in tears saying that she never knew how many ppl had been hidden away! I was fairly taken aback by that. I think a lot of people completely underestimate our older generations - they went through hell and back under the thumb of deep conservatism here and are actually very much more open minded than I think we've ever given them credit for.

This came from a woman in her 80s with grandkids.

Annasopra

There is records of all the boxes. The tallies.

SpaceTime

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

There is records of all the boxes. The tallies.

They're just guesstimates based on observation though and not available in all areas.

Officially there are only what the various count centres produce as a constituency total.

In reality though a referendum is counted as one national constituency. The constituency totals are just informational. All the votes are added together.

I've seen a few comments where people seem to think it's it's an electoral college system.

jobbridge4life

So is there a place to get info on local tallies within constituencies? Personally looking for the Laois/Offally results.

wonderfulname

jobbridge4life wrote: »

So is there a place to get info on local tallies within constituencies? Personally looking for the Laois/Offally results.

I know they didn't do a full tally, it was mostly just Laois, and two Tullamore boxes returned 60 and 61% (I was more interested in the Offaly end). If you find a breakdown let us know!

Annasopra

SpaceTime wrote: »

They're just guesstimates based on observation though and not available in all areas.

Some of them are extremely accurate though

Annasopra

jobbridge4life wrote: »

So is there a place to get info on local tallies within constituencies? Personally looking for the Laois/Offally results.

Ask Yes Equality Laois and Yes Equality Offaly

jobbridge4life

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Ask Yes Equality Laois and Yes Equality Offaly

Thanks.

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Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Some of them are extremely accurate though

Having watched tallymen from the other side of the barrier for several years there is a huge mix of experienced/non experienced people doing it.

Generally once they know what to do, they are very accurate.
They normally work in pairs with one calling the vote.
Votes are placed on the tables to allow them to be viewed easily.

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jobbridge4life wrote: »

So is there a place to get info on local tallies within constituencies? Personally looking for the Laois/Offally results.

Re: Offaly I read on twitter that Clara said yes; Clareen said no; Birr said no ( my town) and Kinnitty was 75% no. Couldn't find much beyond that.

SpaceTime

Blaze Steep Grasshopper wrote: »

Having watched tallymen from the other side of the barrier for several years there is a huge mix of experienced/non experienced people doing it.

Generally once they know what to do, they are very accurate.
They normally work in pairs with one calling the vote.
Votes are placed on the tables to allow them to be viewed easily.

The issue with the tallies on these is that outside of the major cities, the tallies were quite poor as the parties didn't have troops on the ground in a lot of cases.

Outside of a general election scenario, it's quite difficult to get accurate tallies.

SpaceTime

I've never been so glad that I'm an atheist :

Vatican Cardinal calls Irish referendum a ‘defeat for humanity’

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/vatican-cardinal-calls-irish-referendum-a-defeat-for-humanity-1.2226957

How could any organisation spew this stuff and still get taken seriously?

Really ... Just have no words left!

The yes vote was entirely about humanity and a massive victory for humanity, empathy, compassion, understanding and acceptance.

Is "love thy neighbour" actually "judge and condemn thy neighbour" all of a sudden?!

Rick_

Was it a defeat for humanity when they covered up child sex abuse and offered help to hide Nazi's after WW2?

Aurongroove

because they publicly know what's best for everyone.
It's only in private they rape children, cover up assault/murder, and stall academic advancement. (sorry had to vent that)

Oscorp

Heh, one Irish Church that will accomodate same-sex weddings

http://www.thechurch.ie/a-church-wedding-with-a-twist/

However we’re no conventional church. Where there’s a will there’s a way. After the ceremony this is the one church that definitely will be ready to help all newly married couples celebrate their union in style. Our doors are open to all.

L1011

I don't think you could actually have the service there - there's very specific rules about the room being suitable.

The Unitarian Church has already stated they will (on their Facebook page) and the Quakers might as they currently do civil partnerships.