TV Licence why???

mikom

zoobizoo wrote: »

€3 a week for daily news, radio, tv, the player and then the six nations etc etc....

I'm happy to pay the price of a Sunday newspaper every week to get that service.

A newspaper that takes you to court if you don't buy it?
Even the Daily Mail, the Indo, and the Sun are not as big of pricks to try that scam.

Chancer3001

Just don't pay it.

They'll never catch you.

Valetta

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Just don't pay it.

They'll never catch you.

http://www.thejournal.ie/almost-11500-people-in-court-for-not-paying-tv-licence-935979-Jun2013/

Chancer3001

Valetta wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/almost-11500-people-in-court-for-not-paying-tv-licence-935979-Jun2013/

All people who stupidly have their name at some stage.

Never give your name, never get caught

Cienciano

zoobizoo wrote: »

€3 a week for daily news, radio, tv, the player and then the six nations etc etc....

I'm happy to pay the price of a Sunday newspaper every week to get that service.

And that's the way it should be. People like you should pay for it. People like me who have never used the player in my life, haven't listened to the radio in about 5 years, and haven't watched the TV channel since the would cup shouldn't be forced to subsidise it for you.
Actually, I don't pay the licence, so I can't really argue :pac:

Ste-

Chancer3001 wrote: »

All people who stupidly have their name at some stage.

Never give your name, never get caught

APT username.

AllGunsBlazing

Much like the church in decades gone by, the relationship between RTE and the state is far too close. I honestly wouldn't trust the RTE news department any farther than I could throw it.

qt3.14

whisky_galore wrote: »

That won't happen with the (very vocal) Irish language lobby. Plus one of the good things about TG4 it keeps almost all the Irish stuff off RTE proper.

Plus some of the best stuff was on tg4. Remember staying up to watch oz. They've a smaller budget so have to be cannier with it.

Dirty Steve

bear1 wrote: »

The fee doesn't just go to RTE.
The money is used for productions, regeneration of archives, advertising etc.
Although I see your point, 160e per year for mostly drivel is too much.

Can't remember the exact figures, but RTE gets the majority of the licence fee. Something like 80% of it.

Edit: found a breakdown of the €160 here: http://businessetc.thejournal.ie/this-is-exactly-how-your-tv-licence-fee-is-used-542836-Aug2012/

RTE get €125 of the €160 directly (they can however get extra funding through the Sound & Vision etc.) which is 78% of the licence fee.
An Post get €9.62 for their collection of the licence fee, so if I was to subtract that, RTE get €125 of €150.38, or 83.1% of the licence fee.

RTE also complained in 2013 that the licence fee was too low: (http://www.independent.ie/business/media/160-tv-licence-fee-is-too-low-says-rte-as-it-seeks-more-public-funds-29583345.html)
I suppose if you're going to act as the government mouth piece though, you'll get your way.

oneofakind32

Ahem.....

RTE is useless. If it disappeared in the morning no one would miss it. TV3 / UTV would pick up the gaa / 6 nations.

They use the license fee to keep the likes of Tubs's pay at around the half million mark for fear that he would be snapped up by the BBC/ITV and paid more there. The rest is used to buy the latest episodes of 2 broke girls which all can't wait to see.

They produces little or nothing in the way of special interest content as they are also bowing down to advertisers.

RTE.ie is a disjointed mess of a website.

TG4 take 8% and produce worth while programming that serves minorities that wouldn't be served by commercial broadcasters.

Half the license fee, disband RTE. Give the money to TG4(who would no longer need to advertise) / whoever maintains the infrastructure.

mikom

Nicky Byrne's Million Euro Challenge

silverharp

its one of the many reverse Robin Hood organisations common in Ireland, steal from the poor and give to the rich

oneofakind32

The problem is, it is neither a good public service nor a viable commercial entity. It exists in it's own bubble.

DesperateDan

Boards is (unfortunately?) not very representative of the nation though. While I loathe anything RTE has ever produced - I don't even have time for Love/Hate :eek: - the highest rated shows of the week are consistently Fair City and the RTE News. Until that starts to change, the licence will never go away

ShowMeTheCash

DesperateDan wrote: »

Boards is (unfortunately?) not very representative of the nation though. While I loathe anything RTE has ever produced - I don't even have time for Love/Hate :eek: - the highest rated shows of the week are consistently Fair City and the RTE News. Until that starts to change, the licence will never go away

This is a double negative if you are saying these shows are actually popular then RTE do not need a state handout they whould be able to operate like many other stations in the UK and support themselves.

I do not care if RTE dissapear into the ether or continue to operate.
It would not take too much for RTE to charge for a subscription like Sky, you want RTE pay the 160euro a year or 13 euro a month. We have the technology to stop people viewing RTE if they do not pay the subscription just ask SKY or Netfilx or any other broadcaster in the free market.

RTE want every house hold in the state to fund them why?? What is the justification of doing this?

SouthTippBass

Dont pay, dont give your name, problem solved.

Rise above the threats of fines, courts and scare tactics.

whisky_galore

qt3.14 wrote: »

Plus some of the best stuff was on tg4. Remember staying up to watch oz. They've a smaller budget so have to be cannier with it.

Used have some good movies, but then they went dubbing some of them into Irish over Xmas so fcuk it, not bothered with that.

ShowMeTheCash

SouthTippBass wrote: »

Dont pay, dont give your name, problem solved.

Rise above the threats of fines, courts and scare tactics.

I just bought a new home at the end of the summer.. Prior to that I worked in Belfast Mon - Fri and rent there and was back home at the weekend to my parents.

I say about a month or two after buying the house in the state I got a letter addressed to me for the TV licence, how did they get my name?
I assume it was the post office as they see the change of name on the address.

Deluded Oreo

It's basically fraud I don't pay and will never will 160e to watch some D- shows and watch those guys at the old folks home constantly whining about footballers...

No thanks.

Shiraz 4.99

A license should only be attached to something that can provide a service or potentially do harm.
A radio transmitter or a shotgun for example.

A license on a TV makes a much sense as a license for a fridge or a washing machine, actually scrap that, it might give them ideas.

obriendj

BBC seem set to shut down BBC 3 and leave it as a web only channel

Seems this could be done here to save money. but it is unlikely that they would ever reduce the TV licence and if they made 20% savings it would line the pockets of the suits.

How is Tubridy and D'acry on Half a million each.

The Strawman Argument

Trigger Happy wrote: »

Dont get me started on TG4. Culturally important perhaps, but a tiny audience.

TG4 seems to be constantly churning out documentaries on stuff that otherwise wouldn't get much coverage at all, that alone justifies whatever chunk of the money they get. There's little evidence of any of it costing too much money, can't imagine they've anyone on crazy wages or anything either; Wimbledon must be their most expensive thing each year by a good bit, like?

Plus, like someone else said here, there's been signs that they do aim to have a higher quality output than the other channels. They were all over the Wire and a few other big US shows, gave it a decent time slot with repeats when it otherwise would've wound up at 4am on RTE2 on weekday night after the first season.

They're the only part of the whole TV license thing that seems to be genuinely doing its job.

obriendj

The Strawman Argument wrote: »

TG4 seems to be constantly churning out documentaries on stuff that otherwise wouldn't get much coverage at all, that alone justifies whatever chunk of the money they get. There's little evidence of any of it costing too much money, can't imagine they've anyone on crazy wages or anything either; Wimbledon must be their most expensive thing each year by a good bit, like?

Plus, like someone else said here, there's been signs that they do aim to have a higher quality output than the other channels. They were all over the Wire and a few other big US shows, gave it a decent time slot with repeats when it otherwise would've wound up at 4am on RTE2 on weekday night after the first season.

They're the only part of the whole TV license thing that seems to be genuinely doing its job.

I would have thought that they can get shows and sports events fairly cheap because they will argue they only have a small audience. The may put forward that their audience is only 100K people or so, and therefore can get more for less.

But I like TG4, I dont speak much Irish but think they put on some interesting shows with the likes of John Spillane going around small Irish towns. You would expect that he doesnt try to milk them for a large salary as he is spreading the Irish Culture.

They also had a show about 2 girls going around Europe on called Sofa to Sofa or something. It had history and culture about the cities they visited and about the people they stayed with.
Compare that to RTE's "How Low can you go?" where the 3 lads were trying to make a name for themselves.

AllGunsBlazing

obriendj wrote: »

BBC seem set to shut down BBC 3 and leave it as a web only channel

Seems this could be done here to save money. but it is unlikely that they would ever reduce the TV licence and if they made 20% savings it would line the pockets of the suits.

How is Tubridy and D'acry on Half a million each.

The BBC is an example of how a state funded broadcaster should operate. Quality programs, and more importantly, unflinching in it's scrutiny of how the british government conducts itself.

Viper_JB

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

I just bought a new home at the end of the summer.. Prior to that I worked in Belfast Mon - Fri and rent there and was back home at the weekend to my parents.

I say about a month or two after buying the house in the state I got a letter addressed to me for the TV licence, how did they get my name?
I assume it was the post office as they see the change of name on the address.

If they did it's a breach of the data privacy act and they could be sued for it...you should find out.

Brian from bray returns

mikom wrote: »

Meet The McDonaghs.

It's ridiculous that our hard earned money is funding chav shows.

keithclancy

I THREW THINGS AT THE WALL ..

Xenji

I see no reason at all to pay, I have not watched Irish TV in years, I do not have a Saorview box or aerial and I do not have Sky, and yet I can watch whatever channel and show I want.

Why then should I be charged for a TV, I like toast, but do not pay a charge on my toaster, it must be the softest fee we pay in this country, might be time we all invest in a projector.

Melanoma

I think a tv licence is something that is required. That it ends up going into inflated wages of celebrities and a bloated RTE is not.

If TV is free to air then it must be paid by advertising or a licence.

Some aspects of tv viewing are not commercial. Within that there are public broadcasting requirements.

We also have people that are entitled to free tv as part of their social welfare such as pensioners.

I dunno how do you decide that some people pay and others do not. That some watch rte and others do not.

I guess the point is that is not possible. So everyone pays for a service some use.

Melanoma

I think there is an law passed so if you are paying a property tax they get your details and they are entitled to it.